Any GST for used bike?

[flykite]

hmmmmm i see. the previous few times when i follow my friend go buy bike, no sales order was issued.... thanks timemac, i learnt something new today

 

[Shinobi]

Very simple. if they want to charge GST on the machine price (excluding road tax, insurance, etc) ask them to put in down on the sales order (where they itemised the charges).

 

All bike dealer know themselve it is illegal for them to do so , so they won't put it down on the sales order. If they don't write it down and we won't pay for it. If ..and if they do write the GST charge, you may bring to the Revenue House, and they will take action on it. (I was told by the IRAS officer)

 

yes that's what i meant... if ur not the sort that takes the trouble into sueing, ask properly b4 u purchase the machine... best if got a invoice included the price of sales or installment monthly written on it....

 

Black and white = no deny

[tiMeMac]

hmmmmm i see. the previous few times when i follow my friend go buy bike, no sales order was issued.... thanks timemac, i learnt something new today

 

 

No problem man. Just want to share my experience and benefit others.

[contrarian]

the problem is, how are we supposed to convince the motodiam to not charge GST on the agreement fee, admin fee, etc. the mehod of calculation is very simple to the motodiam. just sum up all the rubbish fees + machine price + insurance then multiply by 107% to get the OTR price, which includes GST for the above non-taxable items and paying GST twice for insurance. they'll just insist they're right and the concluding sentence of the conversation or argument will always be "you go anywhere else also the same" and "not happy don't buy from us lah".

 

i've been rebuked by so many motodiam even when i can prove that it is illegal to levy GST on the non-taxable items of the sale, and twice on the insurance that i've personally given up buying bikes from motodiam. doesn't mean that i can't afford the few hundred dollars more of extra GST but i don't see the point to let them gain something that they shouldn't be profiteering from.

 

Who gives you the idea that agreement fee, admin fee and the like are not subject to GST? All these items are supply of goods and services and are subject to GST at the standard rate of 7%.

 

You must pay GST on everything except the LTA fees and charges like registration fee and road tax.

 

The calculation that you have put above seems to be the right way to count GST. No wonder you have been unsuccessful in getting any shop to change that.

[contrarian]

there is no such thing as GST for used bike/car. new bike yes, but is confirm included inside already.

 

Totally untrue. There is potentially GST on used vehicles and the IRAS will tell you so. If you don't know, don't misinform.