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Good morning to all.

 

BTW, how much is the road tax for a NT650?

 

Also, how's the maintenance like?

 

Since it is a V-twin, we just need two spark plugs, right?? How many litres of EO required per change (w/o an oil filter change)? 3 L?? :)

 

With a change of the oil filter, 3.5 L???

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Cheers. :)

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Posted (edited)
Good morning to all.

 

BTW, how much is the road tax for a NT650?

 

Also, how's the maintenance like?

 

Since it is a V-twin, we just need two spark plugs, right?? How many litres of EO required per change (w/o an oil filter change)? 3 L?? :)

 

With a change of the oil filter, 3.5 L???

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Cheers. :)

how's the maintenance :thumb:

road tax for a NT650, I think is $168.....????

spark plugs NT650 4 pcs....... NT700 2 pcs....

EO w/o an oil filter .....2.8L+/-

With a change of the oil filter 3L+/-

Ans Your Last post: I know there are a few shop have NT650 2nd hand for sale, look a round, range form 3K-6K and also mXX motor have new Nt650(don't buy), pay a bit more can get NT700,....Good luck

Edited by hippo

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Posted
Good morning to all.

 

BTW, how much is the road tax for a NT650?

 

Also, how's the maintenance like?

 

Since it is a V-twin, we just need two spark plugs, right?? How many litres of EO required per change (w/o an oil filter change)? 3 L?? :)

 

With a change of the oil filter, 3.5 L???

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Cheers. :)

 

deauville 650 maintenance is not expensive, 5000km change oil, 10,000km change shaft gear oil.

with a change of the oil filter, 2.8L

w/o change of the oil filter, 2.5L.

10,000km change oil filter once.

oil filter is normal standard honda oil filter, like super4 oil filter, around $20/p

4 spark plug, also normal, like phantom spark plug, each around $5.

Posted
how's the maintenance :thumb:

road tax for a NT650, I think is $168.....????

spark plugs NT650 4 pcs....... NT700 2 pcs....

EO w/o an oil filter .....2.8L+/-

With a change of the oil filter 3L+/-

Ans Your Last post: I know there are a few shop have NT650 2nd hand for sale, look a round, range form 3K-6K and also mXX motor have new Nt650(don't buy), pay a bit more can get NT700,....Good luck

 

deauville 650 maintenance is not expensive, 5000km change oil, 10,000km change shaft gear oil.

with a change of the oil filter, 2.8L

w/o change of the oil filter, 2.5L.

10,000km change oil filter once.

oil filter is normal standard honda oil filter, like super4 oil filter, around $20/p

4 spark plug, also normal, like phantom spark plug, each around $5.

 

 

Hi, guys,

 

Thanks very much for your advices.

 

Pardon me for my ignorance. Please kindly enlighten me...

 

I thot NT650 is a V-twin, still need 4 spark plugs ah?? :)

 

NT700 needs two spark plugs only, meaning it is a V-twin??

 

Sorry, a bit confused here... :)

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Posted
Hi, guys,

 

Thanks very much for your advices.

 

Pardon me for my ignorance. Please kindly enlighten me...

 

I thot NT650 is a V-twin, still need 4 spark plugs ah?? :)

 

NT700 needs two spark plugs only, meaning it is a V-twin??

 

Sorry, a bit confused here... :)

 

Ah ah, don't know how to ans you, may be is call NT650 V-twin.... tiwn spark :angel:

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Posted (edited)
Hi, guys,

 

Thanks very much for your advices.

 

Pardon me for my ignorance. Please kindly enlighten me...

 

I thot NT650 is a V-twin, still need 4 spark plugs ah?? :)

 

NT700 needs two spark plugs only, meaning it is a V-twin??

 

Sorry, a bit confused here... :)

 

nt650 also is v-twin, but got 4 piston, that means 2 piston working at same time, i try b4, take off 2 spark(both at 1 side, left or right) engine still can working, but not so smooth, if throttle up engine can keep on running, and engine sound very bad(haha, that time i take off exhaust pipe, idle speed sound like harly, then throttle up the sound very loud).

about nt700, i don hv it, so i also don know how to answer u.

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Posted
Ah ah, don't know how to ans you, may be is call NT650 V-twin.... tiwn spark :angel:

 

nt650 also is v-twin, but got 4 piston, that means 2 piston working at same time, i try b4, take off 2 spark(both at 1 side, left or right) engine still can working, but not so smooth, if throttle up engine can keep on running, and engine sound very bad.

about nt700, i don hv it, so i also don know how to answer u.

 

Sorry pardon me for my ignorance. I am a bit confused here.

 

From my own understanding, a V-twin means two pistions, one piston on each side of the "V". :)

 

If there 4 pistons, it means it is a V-4 engine like a VFR. 2 pistons on each side of the "V". :)

 

If a Deauville is a V-twin, which means 2 pistons (one piston on each side of the "V"), then isn't it that 2 spark plugs are enough? If it is a V-4, it doesn't make sense that of the 4 pistons, only two pistons are working at anyone time...

 

Or is it like what Mr hippo said, a "twin spark", i.e. 2 spark plugs required for each of the 2 pistons that a V-twin Deauville has in its engine?? But still, I think it doesn't make quite right sense lei... :)

 

Sorry, sorry, I am a bit confused liao... :giddy: :confused:

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Posted
nt650 also is v-twin, but got 4 piston, that means 2 piston working at same time, i try b4, take off 2 spark(both at 1 side, left or right) engine still can working, but not so smooth, if throttle up engine can keep on running, and engine sound very bad.

about nt700, i don hv it, so i also don know how to answer u.

 

The Deauville is a 2-cylinder bike. :sian:

Posted
The Deauville is a 2-cylinder bike. :sian:

 

So it is a V-twin with only two pistons, one on each side of the "V", right?

 

But then why are 4 spark plugs required?? :confused:

 

Each piston required 2 spark plugs to ignite?? :confused:

 

Thanks in advance for your explanation(s) and advice(s). :thumb:

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Posted
Hello fellow Deauville riders,

 

anyone interested to ride up to KL on 31st Oct and back to SIN on 1st Nov. Please let me know by this week. And the following Malaysia Tour thread link as follow: http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257152

 

ah ah any one

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Posted
So it is a V-twin with only two pistons, one on each side of the "V", right?

 

But then why are 4 spark plugs required?? :confused:

 

Each piston required 2 spark plugs to ignite?? :confused:

 

Thanks in advance for your explanation(s) and advice(s). :thumb:

 

Published : Thursday, 24 August 2006

 

Honda has a long history of playing in the mid-sized tourer category, particularly with V-twins.

 

There was a CX650-powered full dresser at one stage (the original Silverwing -- not a local model), then a gadget called the PC800 (or Pacific Coast) which the company would probably rather forget, and now we’re seeing the second generation of the Deauville.

 

Version one was a 650 with very good carrying capacity and halfway decent road manners. It was capable, but not the most inspiring performer on the planet - in fact a little 'soft' in that direction, particularly when ridden two-up.

 

Its powerplant was a variation on a very long string of three-valve V-twins which have powered a range of road and adventure bikes, and was perhaps a tad overwhelmed with the task off punting a reasonably substantial tourer.

 

We've all moved on since then and Honda has decided to go through the Deauville like the proverbial dose of salts, revising pretty much every aspect of the bike, except the overall design brief.

 

Gone is the rounded bodywork of old, in favour of the more angular look that runs across the road bike family.

 

It's closest in looks to the ST1300.

 

The engine is effectively a new toy, with a bump in capacity from 647cc to 680, via a 2mm increase in bore.

 

While the conrods are much the same dimensions, they are considerably lighter than before, which the company says improves engine response.

 

In addition, the heads have come in for a complete rework and are now a four-valve rather than three-valve design. This is matched to a version of the company's in-house electronic fuel injection.

 

According to Honda: "All these modifications to the Deauville's engine add up to much stronger performance, especially in its wide midrange, for a more impressive surge of roll-on acceleration whenever the throttle is opened wide, even when carrying a full load of passenger and gear. Maximum power output has been improved by 7.3kW in overall engine performance (from 41 to 48.3kW), while maximum torque has seen an increase of fully 15% (from 55 to 66.2Nm) in hard-accelerating thrust that greatly improves its two-up touring performance potential."

 

It also begs the question: can we expect to see this powerplant in an updated Transalp in the near future?

 

In the saddle

So what does it add up to? In short, a much sharper bit of kit. The engine is noticeably more lively than before, with solid bottom range, an excellent mid-range burst and reasonable top-end. We managed an indicated 180km/h on it, which is significantly up on the older model. It redlines at 8500 and has about 4200 on the dial at 100km/h.

 

Fuel injection on this machine is excellent, with instant starting from cold, followed by a fast idle until it warms up. Petrol consumption is a very miserly 18-19km/lt if the bike is ridden more or less at legal pace.

 

The gearshift is a five-speeder with cable-operated wet clutch and it all ties together reasonably well. Final drive is by shaft, which feels tight and unobtrusive.

 

Braking is via a version of the linked three-piston/two-piston disc set-up used across several models in the range and works well enough. Feel isn't great, but the Deauville squats nicely and feels very stable even under maximum stopping power. All up it's quite reassuring in this area.

 

Suspension is relatively basic spec, though we like the inclusion of fork leg protector blades -- a very practical touch for anyone planning on some long trips. The ride is on the plush side and the damping can be overwhelmed if you hit a long series of bumps, but we really have no complaint as it does the job. Rear preload is the only adjustment and is done via a very convenient knob which pokes out from under one of the sidecovers. Can we have this feature on all motorcycles please? I never understood the idea of preload adjustment that is damn near impossible to use -- which unfortunately tends to be the rule rather than the exception.

 

As a package it is very easy to handle around town - despite its substantial weight -- and is quite competent in sports mode through some tight turns. It won't take a Fireblade but you'd arrive only a few minutes later, in a much greater degree of comfort.

 

Rider and pillion accommodation is fairly generous and the screen, which can be manually laid down in a 'sports' position (why bother?) does an excellent job of providing an envelope of still air. At close to 190cm, I find it one of the most effective screens out there.

 

The very, very, long accessory list includes a variety of creature comfort add-ons, such as heated grips, mini amplifier and speakers for an MP3 player, sat-nav, bigger panniers and a topbox.

 

Standard luggage space is generous for one person -- the panniers are fixed and actually have a tunnel under the tail that links them. There is also a pair of gloveboxes in the fairing, one of which is lockable.

 

The dash is comprehensive, with twin analogue gauges and a digital cluster that gives time, tripmeters and fuel consumption.

 

Overall finish is good, if rather muted. When you look at the $15,000 price, it offers a hell of a lot of motorcycle for the money. It may not be the most exciting bit of kit on the market, but is nevertheless very competent and feels like something an owner would get a lot of fun out of over the long term.

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Posted
So it is a V-twin with only two pistons, one on each side of the "V", right?

 

But then why are 4 spark plugs required?? :confused:

 

Each piston required 2 spark plugs to ignite?? :confused:

 

Thanks in advance for your explanation(s) and advice(s). :thumb:

 

Honda Deauville

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Honda Deauville NT650V modified with blue lights and sirens for emergency services use

 

The Honda Deauville is a mid-range touring motorcycle developed by Honda in 1998 for the European market to replace the NTV650 Revere. Originally badged as the NT650V Deauville, it was powered by a 52° 650 cc V-twin. In 2006 the engine capacity was enlarged to 680 cc and it has been rebadged as the NT700V Deauville. The power delivery is via a shaft drive through a 5 speed gearbox.

 

The small size (compared to a full-size tourer), good fuel consumption, comfort, and reliability have made this a very popular commuter motorcycle, despite being dubbed the "Dullville" by some other (typically sports bike) riders due to its relatively low power-to-weight ratio.

[edit] History

 

In 1998 The NT650V Deauville made its debut with a fully integrated three-quarter fairing and panniers to distinguish it from the Revere on which it was based. The engine was also re-tuned for stronger low-to-midrange torque. To further suit its touring role, the fuel tank capacity was enlarged to 19 litres. Despite some minor additions in 1999, the motorcycle remained unchanged until it was revamped in 2002. Larger-capacity panniers (left capacity increased from 18 to 24 litres; right capacity increased from 16.7 to 19.5 litres) with more secure cover latches and hinges were fitted. The engine was overhauled with lighter pistons and other engine modifications to reduce vibration. A catalytic converter was fitted to ensure compliance with the stricter EU emissions laws. A linked braking system was fitted and the front brakes were upgraded to 3-piston calipers. Aside from some minor additions in 2004, the motorcycle remained largely unchanged until it major overhaul in 2006. The taller windscreen is manually adjustable for height. The larger capacity engine is now fuel injected to give a power boost of almost 20%. The luggage carrying capacity has been further enhanced. Also included are a new instrument panel and optional ABS brakes.

 

NT650V

Engine Two cylinder 52° V Twin, Four stroke

Displacement 647 cc

Bore & Stroke 79 mm x 66 mm

Valvetrain DOHC, 3 valves per cylinder

Compression ratio 9.2:1

Maximum power 41 kW (55 hp) @ 7,750 rpm

Maximum torque 55 N·m (41 lb·ft) @ 6,250 rpm

Starter Electric

Cooling system Water cooled

Transmission Five speed

Gear ratios no info

Clutch Wet, multiplate with coil springs

Drivetrain Enclosed shaft

Seat Height 814 mm (32 inch)

Fuel capacity 19 litres (including 3.5 litre reserve)

Brakes Front: 296 mm dual disc

Rear: 276mm single disc

Optional ABS

Dry weight 233 kg (514 lb)

 

NT700V

Two cylinder 52° V Twin, Four stroke

680.2 cc

81 mm x 66 mm

DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder

10:1

48.3 kW (65 hp) @ 8,000 rpm

66.2 N·m (48.8 lb·ft) @ 6,500 rpm

Electric

Water cooled

Five speed

1: 2.571 (36/14)

2: 1.688 (27/16)

3: 1.300 (26/20)

4: 1.074 (29/27)

5: 0.923 (24/26)

Wet, multiplate with coil springs

Enclosed shaft

806 mm (31.7 inch)

19.7 litres (including 3.5 litre reserve)

296 mm dual disc

276 mm single disc

236 kg (520 lb)

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Piaggio Xevo 400cc , Suzuki Burgman 400cc, Honda NC700x, Tmax 530. Now -F800r

Posted
Good morning to all.

 

BTW, how much is the road tax for a NT650?

 

Also, how's the maintenance like?

 

Since it is a V-twin, we just need two spark plugs, right?? How many litres of EO required per change (w/o an oil filter change)? 3 L?? :)

 

With a change of the oil filter, 3.5 L???

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Cheers. :)

 

bro seah, u now aiming for NT650 ar?

http://forum.geizhals.at/files/2455/Vfr_logo.jpg
Posted
So it is a V-twin with only two pistons, one on each side of the "V", right?

 

But then why are 4 spark plugs required?? :confused:

 

Each piston required 2 spark plugs to ignite?? :confused:

 

Thanks in advance for your explanation(s) and advice(s). :thumb:

 

nt650 got two cylinder, each cylinder got 2 piston, each piston hv 1 spark plug, so total 4 spark plug.

Posted

Thanks, ray73, for the two very informative reports. :)

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Posted (edited)
bro seah, u now aiming for NT650 ar?

 

hahahaha... See see look look only first.

 

My current little lamb really no power. With my wife in pillion, lagi worse...

 

With my wife in pillion, it is almost like I need to do a "Flintstones" when we are going up the up-slope on MSCPs.

 

Maybe also my own "lust" for power.

 

Viffer is great, but it is a little overkill to ride a 800cc in Singapore given that I do very minimum touring.

 

Thus looking at the 600cc classes... :)

 

The two fixed side panniers on a Deauville is also a plus-point for us when we go shopping for groceries. :)

Edited by seahmh

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Posted
nt650 got two cylinder, each cylinder got 2 piston, each piston hv 1 spark plug, so total 4 spark plug.

 

So in summary, a Deauville is a V-4 beast with 4 pistons, two pistons in each cylinder on each side of the "V", with 4 spark plugs like a VFR?

 

Correct me if I wrong, cos normally when it is called a V-twin, it should only have 2 pistons, one piston in each cylinder on each side of the "V", with 2 spark plugs only.

 

Sorry for the troubles. I am still a little confused. :)

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Posted
So in summary, a Deauville is a V-4 beast with 4 pistons, two pistons in each cylinder on each side of the "V", with 4 spark plugs like a VFR?

 

Correct me if I wrong, cos normally when it is called a V-twin, it should only have 2 pistons, one piston in each cylinder on each side of the "V", with 2 spark plugs only.

 

Sorry for the troubles. I am still a little confused. :)

 

In summary, its the engine layout design, just extra two plugs for better combustion i suppose so.

 

V-twin - 2 cylinder

V4 - 4 cylinder

 

Nt650 - carburetor

V-twin - DOHC, 3 valves per cylinder

Bore & Stroke- 79 mm x 66 mm

 

nt700 - Fuel injection

V-twin - DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder

Bore & Stroke- 81 mm x 66 mm

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Honda Deauville 650cc, Honda VFR V-TEC 800cc,Honda Deauville 700cc,Yamaha Majesty 250cc, Gilera runner 200cc,

Piaggio Xevo 400cc , Suzuki Burgman 400cc, Honda NC700x, Tmax 530. Now -F800r

Posted
In summary, its the engine layout design, just extra two plugs for better combustion i suppose so.

 

V-twin - 2 cylinder

V4 - 4 cylinder

 

Nt650 - carburetor

V-twin - DOHC, 3 valves per cylinder

Bore & Stroke- 79 mm x 66 mm

 

nt700 - Fuel injection

V-twin - DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder

Bore & Stroke- 81 mm x 66 mm

 

Hi, ray73,

 

Thanks very much for your clarification.

 

It is kind of funny for the NT650s.

 

There are two pistons, but 3 valves, not even lei... :)

 

Is it why H0nd@ made it to be even valves in their NT700s?? lolz... :cheeky:

 

Ok, hope but next year when I decided to upgrade again, there are reliable 2nd hand NT700s already in the markets and the prices of these 2nd hand NT700s would have gone down a bit...

 

Me definitely not looking at a brand new one or a "very new" 2nd hand Deauville. :)

 

Thanks once again. :)

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Posted

Source from:

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil_cooper/PhilsBikes93.html

 

 

 

Deauville model history

There has been a debate on whether the Deauville was ever made in Japan that continues today. This is perpetuated by owners claiming that theirs is "Made in Japan". Scouring the old UK Deauville Owners forum I found claims that if the headlight dipped to the left/right it was made in Japan, but, if it dipped up/down then it was made in Spain.

 

Having read all the Honda motorcycle press releases and Annual Reports available on-line, articles in magazines and the biking press and the history of Montesa motorcycles, everything points to the Deauville having been built in Spain from the start in 1998 when the NT650 was developed into the NT650V, the Deauville.

 

Honda acquired a majority shareholding in Montesa in July 1985, and a year later on 1st July 1986 they gained an 88% holding while at the same time entering into an agreement for continued production of Montesa off-road bikes. They then spent another 5 million US dollars on modifying and updating the factory, all in return for development know how and assistance in developing Honda’s off road range of motorcycles. Production of Deauvilles started for release in 1998, as a "bike for Europe". In 2002 production of the Transalp, Varadero 1000 and XL125V (mini Varadero) was moved to the factory (from Italy). The Montesa factory is located just outside Barcelona.

 

In summary, I'd be very surprised if they made the Deauville elsewhere in the world to cover the Asia and sub-continent markets as Europe is the biggest market for the model. Despite selling over 3 million motorcycles in India alone in 2007, not a single Deauville was sold there, and India was Honda’s biggest motorcycle market up to 2008, when China became the #1 market in terms of volume sales. Production of the Deauville in Spain has been set at 8,000 units for the 3rd year running for 2009.

 

When talking the model numbers/volumes Honda normally deals with, 8,000 units represents a niche market. The main market for the Deauville outside of Europe is Australia, but, even there it sells in very low numbers and although there are a few in Canada, in will enter the American market for the first time at the end of 2009 as part of the 2010 model year line-up, where it is being marketed as a "Sports Tourer" and smaller brother to the Pan European which hasn't sold as well as expected there due to highly publicised "handling issues".

 

The Deauville was based on the NT650 Revere which was made in Japan. For further background on the Revere and pre-1998 variants see this link from Eirik Skjaveland

 

* 1998 - NT650V Deauville debuts based on the Revere, it features fully integrated three-quarter fairing and panniers. The fuel tank capacity enlarged to 19 litres. The 52 degree V twin has been re-tuned for stronger low-to-midrange torque with 2 spark plugs and 3 valves per cylinder and puts out 55bhp. Michelin Macadams are factory fit. Brakes are Brembo dual piston made under license and are not linked.

* 1999 - minor revisions, main one being the fitting of Honda Immobiliser Security System (HISS mk1 version).

* 2001 - mid year update, from June, to HISS (now mk 2 version - retained through to end of the 650 model's life). The rear brake retaining bolt is replaced with a beefier item after some early ones snapped during rear wheel removal. Sintered brake pads become standard fit.

* 2002 - Larger-capacity panniers (left increased from 18 to 24 litres; right increased from 16.7 to 19.5 litres). Panniers hinges more secure (now internally mounted) and changes also to the alloy foot rest mounting plates, silencer mount and lower pannier mounts which were now painted. The engine is modified with lightened parts to reduce vibration. Clutch plates are uprated and a catalytic converter fitted to meet EU emission laws. Nissin linked braking system replaces the earlier Brembos and front brakes upgraded to 3-piston calipers. Front end received a plain/"clear" headlight lens. Higher ouptut alternator fitted as earlier versions found to be marginal in use.

* All 1999 - 2001 models have a front wheel hub of approx 130mm width. From the introduction of linked Nissin brakes in 2002 the front wheel hub is approx 117mm for the remainder of the 650's production. Front wheels are not interchangeable between non-linked Brembo braked bikes and linked Nissin braked bikes.

* 2004 - minor changes, the main one being "always on" headlight and the addition of hazard flasher to the indicator system and hazard light switch replaces lights on/off switch which is no longer present. New larger-capacity battery (up from 9AH to 11.2AH) fitted and Honda claimed "Enhanced corrosion resistance".

* 2005 - headlight finally revised to give a decent beam and power output (but still an H4 60w/55w bulb).

* 2006 - NT700 introduces a complete restyle. Early ones are available in limited numbers (mainly press release bikes) in late 2005, but supply problems delay availability until April/May 2006. Engine increased to 680.2cc with 1 spark plug and 4 valves per cylinder, power is up nearly 20% on the 650.

- New PGM-FI fuel injection system.

- New higher-output ACG.

- New HECS3 oxygen-sensing catalytic low-emissions system.

- New 1-litre larger capacity fuel tank (19.7 litres).

- New larger-capacity integrated panniers.

- New through-hole between panniers facilitates packing.

- New seat construction and handlebar position.

- New wider-coverage front cowl design.

- New ‘piggyback’-style dual multi-reflector headlight.

- New 2-position adjustable windscreen.

- New, more modern instrument panel design.

- New 55mm longer rear-view mirror stalks.

- New slimmer sidecovers for easier reach to ground.

- New larger-capacity glove boxes.

- New ever-on hazard lights.

- New ABS version also available.

The new screen is manually adjustable for height (2 positions - high & low - requires 20 minutes use of spanners). Combimed brakes with ABS (the popular seller, non-ABS is £500 cheaper but sells in very low numbers). L/h/s cubby hole now locks and r/h/s doesn't (opposite to previous models). Panniers now linked internally (baguette hole). Larger-capacity panniers (left increased from 24 to 27.4 litres; right increased from 19.5 to 26.7 litres). Behind the vertically stacked headlight (now twin H7 bulbs) there is now a new instrument panel, revised layout complete with fuel gauge. Original factory fit tyres are now Bridgestone BT-020s.

* 2008 - multi-position (5 heights) screen fitted, maually adjustable without the need for spanners (push forward at top, slide up or down, push back into place) and a motorised option is available (expensive).

* 2009 - no changes from 2008. 4th September 2009 Honda announces that for the first time in the model's history, the Deauville is to go on sale in America as a Sports Tourer.

* 2010 - no changes from 2008/2009.

 

 

Same as wat ray73 says

trying to learn as well

:cheeky:

Cheers~

Posted

oso found this

 

NT700

Fuel system: PGM-FI electronic fuel injection

Fuel control: SOHC (Single overhead camshaft cylinder head)

 

NT650

Fuel system: Carburettor

Fuel control: Not Stated (my guess would be the Carburettor n ur throttle)

 

 

Technology difference

 

correct me if i m wrong

:cheers:

Posted (edited)

Hi 013

well done, Thank you for all the info, I will buy you drink next time.

some good info your guy may like to know, they are total 8 model of NT650V Deauville and 3 new model of NT700 deauville.

start from

1) NT650V-W 1998 model year.

2) NT650V-X 1999 model year.

3) NT650V-Y 2000 model year.

4) NT650V-1 2001 model year.

5) NT650V-2 2002 model year.

6) NT650V-3 2003 model year.

7) NT650V-4 2004 model year.

8) NT650V-5 2005 model year.and it stop at NT650V-5

9) NT700 2006 model year

and NT700V ABS 2007-2008

10)NT700V ABS 2008-2009 with multi-position (5 heights) screen fitted

and befor deauville is name as NTV650.

have fun with it thank you

Edited by hippo

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Posted

hmmm... Seemed like Deauville is an interesting bike...

 

Can't wait for my current instalments to finish next year. :cheeky:

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Honda Super 4 Vtec 1, FS6537H (28/06/2006 - 13/02/2007)

Yamaha FJR1300 ABS, FBB661H (13/02/2007 - 31/05/2008)

Honda VFR800 ABS, FBB 404 J (31/05/2008 - 15/08/2009)

ADIVA AD 200, FBD 36 C (15/08/2009 - 13/05/2010, 1430hrs)

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Posted

Any bros riding the 650 who wants to get the taller windscreen?

 

Im going to get from biketech21, the brand of the windscreen is Powerbronze.

 

The shop quoted me 2 prices, $135(clear and light tint) and $145 (black? i checked the website, no black one he probably meant the dark tint)

 

Will be able to get a small discount (he mentioned 5%):sian: if any bros interested, need to pay a deposit of around 50bucks, item arrives in 4 to 6 wks.

 

can check out pics of the windscreen: http://www.powerbronze.co.uk/shop/Product.aspx?PROD_ID=905809&MC_ID=818268

 

or http://www.elsham.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deauville/ --->scroll down the page.

 

Mike and Roland still keen?

http://picsupload.net/images/r2dk88m9fvotqqw2uxd.jpg

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