[Group] SUZUKI Bandit

chee_teck · September 21, 2004

1.Engine Oil (4T)

Castrol R4, 3 bottles + original oil fittler

Motoworld Price $68 (Promotion) ; Just verified on 6 Sept 2003.

Pleasure Motorsports PL Fuch semi 20-50, 3.2L $16

R4 $16 @ HKL

Total 1L -$4.30 cheap and good from carrefour (semi syn)

Esso Gold HKL selling $15

Motul 5100 Ester 15W50 (semi syn), HKL, $13 per bottle

2. Tires

Front tyre 090 110/70 for $88 @ LAB (P-model-front)

Dunlop GPR70 110/70-17 $115 @ Motorworld (P-model-front)

Tyres batlex Brigdestone BT090, front(110/70), rear(150/60),HKL, $240.

Bridgestone BT45 frt & rr $155 @ pleasure moto(NEXT AH BOY WORKSHOP)

Bridgestone BT39 frt & rr $160 @ pleasure moto.(NEXT AH BOY WORKSHOP)PS:come with wheel balancing

Michelin Macadam sports touring tyre front - $135 @Pang Scooter

3. Chain & Sprockets

Frt sporket(with rubber in center),RR sporket & DID o-ring $195 @pleasure moto

4. Brakes

Daytona front pads @ Chiong Aik along Joo Chiat Road - $20

Vesrah sintered brake pads $35 front

Vesrah organice brake pads $17 rear

5. Handlebar/grips

$23 - Harris grip @ 219 Motor shop @ Lavender

$8 - Playlife grip@ mah motor

$23- Harris grip@ Unity bt merah

$25-Harris grip @ Chiap Lee

$6-GPR grips@ Warehouse sales(forget which shop liao)

6. Engine guards

$70-motovation sliders

7. Boxes/racks

$205 E450 with brackets @ LAB (w/install)

8. Batteries

$50 @ HKL yuasa

$55 @ HKL bigger size and power?

$55 @ LAB, "Made in Japan" furukawa

$60 @ Kilvile, Ubi.

9. Rectifier

10. Steering cone

( FJT $35 part, Fix Malaysia $30 )

$70 @ Southern Bt Merah + installation

$80 @ LAB workshop + installation + Fork oil

11. K&N recharger kit

$18 @ Mah Motor

12. Air filter

SGP(VV Model), $44.50, Guan Hoe

P Model - KS Cycle $17.50

13. Oil filter

RM35 Bike Shop in Malacca

(duno brand), $8, Guan Hoe

$15 - Original Suzuki Part HKL

$6 from KS moto

14. Bike respray

$40 Exhaust header sand and respray with hi-temp @atan at ubi

15. Fork brace

Fork Seal $16 per pc - HKL then workmanship @ Pioneer Rd North $30

fork oil seal, dust cover and metal clip for both fork for $44 – KS cycle

16. Alarm

CHeetah Alarm (water proof version) @ motorX

w/o install $48

w/ installation $58

CHeetah Alarm (water proof version) Sim lim Tower, $58, self install

17. Belly Pan

Powerbronze @ Biketech 21 for $150

18. Spark Plug

$12 per piece CRE8K – nit 4 piece Bike shop at Pioneer Rd

NGK(CR8E or CR9E),DENSO(U27ESR-N), $12, Guan Hoe

NGK(CR8E or CR9E), $6, HKL

Denso U24ETR - $4 each @ FJT or the shop beside it

CR8EK from KS @ $7

19. SparK Plug Cap

(SGP)spark plug cap, $21.70 each, Guan Hoe

(SGP)cap rubber, $3 each, Guan Hoe

20. Ignition Lock

21. Hugger

22. Clutch cable

Shop beside Dexing(Bukit batok), $24,

Clutch lever ,Shop beside Dexing(Bukit batok), $15,

Clutch plate,gasket,eng oil @160 (pleasure moto)

23. Coolant

Mah motor flush coolent $25 workmanship, use 1 spaajard radiator flush $5 and 4 x $4 castrol pre-mixed coolent. Total = $46

Mah motor change coolent $10 workmanship. Cost would be $26 (labour $30.00)

Mah motor flush coolant $25 workmanship, use 1 spaajard radiator flush $5 and 4 x $4 castu)

24. Rear/Front wheel sealed bearings.

Rear wheel sealed bearings $40.00 with dust cover (Excluding labour $30.00)

Planet change front and rear wheel bearing(w/o sprocket bearing) 4pcs = $56 inclusive labour.

$14*2 Front wheel bearing - Pioneer Rd North Bikeshop (w/wrkmanshp)

25. Under Tray

LAB $ 30 thin or Better $40

26. Cutch Pad

27. Carbon Starter

$65 for 01 x Carbon starter + labour @ Mah Motor.

28. Bulb

Speedometer/Tachometer bulbs, $3 each, Guan Hoe

29. Tensioner

(SGP), $72.40, Guan Hoe

30. Ignition Coil

$130 for 2 pairs - KS Cycle

31. CDI

$420 KS Cycle

Guan Hoe Co., (M) Pte Ltd, Blk 1043, No 148, Eunos Ave 3, S409847

Tel: 67465910

K S Motorcycles Co, 127 Jln Besar S208845

6294 9316

Bandit riders:

1) chinjoon 98213944

2) Kenneth 93897446

3) skybono 97909830

4) riDerz 96283626

Please update took me some time to dig this posting again

kenneth

S750WP · September 21, 2004

I bought the air filter from KS for $13 only. $44.50 from guan hoe

CR8EK $7 from KS with the Suzuki Genuie product(SGP) logo on the packaging

Japan made yuasa battery can get from KS, heard its the cheapest in town and not to worry getting a chiong one.

Any idea how much is the rectifier for Bandit400, can use Super 4 rectifier or not?

If too ex, maybe I going to bid a used one on ebay and wait 2 weeks for it to ship here.

S750WP · September 21, 2004

I found a burnt connector on the black and red wire towards the rectifier, check the resistance according to the manual. Here is what I got on the rectifier, think its kaput. Batt measure is 11.5V. Will check the A/C generator tomorrow hope its not fried.

Y1(+) to Y2(-) = 13Mohms (spec infinity)

Y1(+) to Y3(-) = 13Mohms (spec infinity)

Y1(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

Y1(+) to B/W(-) = 5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

Y2(+) to Y1(-) = 12.6Mohms (spec infinity)

Y2(+) to Y3(-) = 12.6Mohms (spec infinity)

Y2(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

Y2(+) to B/W(-) = 8Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

Y3(+) to Y1(-) = 14Mohms (spec infinity)

Y3(+) to Y2(-) = 14Mohms (spec infinity)

Y3(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

Y3(+) to B/W(-) = 5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

R(+) to Y1(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

R(+) to Y2(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

R(+) to Y3(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

R(+) to B/W(-) = 3Mohms (spec 6Kohms)

B/W(+) to Y1(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

B/W(+) to Y2(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

B/W(+) to Y3(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

B/W(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

chee_teck · September 21, 2004

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Originally posted by S750WP@Sep 21 2004, 06:39 PM
I bought the air filter from KS for $13 only. $44.50 from guan hoe

CR8EK $7 from KS with the Suzuki Genuie product(SGP) logo on the packaging

Japan made yuasa battery can get from KS, heard its the cheapest in town and not to worry getting a chiong one.

Any idea how much is the rectifier for Bandit400, can use Super 4 rectifier or not?
If too ex, maybe I going to bid a used one on ebay and wait 2 weeks for it to ship here.

think the air filter is got bandit vv..posted by chinjoon heheh ..i edit it..paiseh heheh

chee_teck · September 21, 2004

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Originally posted by S750WP@Sep 21 2004, 11:36 PM
I found a burnt connector on the black and red wire towards the rectifier, check the resistance according to the manual. Here is what I got on the rectifier, think its kaput. Batt measure is 11.5V. Will check the A/C generator tomorrow hope its not fried.

Y1(+) to Y2(-) = 13Mohms (spec infinity)
Y1(+) to Y3(-) = 13Mohms (spec infinity)
Y1(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
Y1(+) to B/W(-) = 5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

Y2(+) to Y1(-) = 12.6Mohms (spec infinity)
Y2(+) to Y3(-) = 12.6Mohms (spec infinity)
Y2(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
Y2(+) to B/W(-) = 8Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

Y3(+) to Y1(-) = 14Mohms (spec infinity)
Y3(+) to Y2(-) = 14Mohms (spec infinity)
Y3(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
Y3(+) to B/W(-) = 5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

R(+) to Y1(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)
R(+) to Y2(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)
R(+) to Y3(-) = 11Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)
R(+) to B/W(-) = 3Mohms (spec 6Kohms)

B/W(+) to Y1(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
B/W(+) to Y2(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
B/W(+) to Y3(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)
B/W(+) to R(-) = 1.3Mohms (spec infinity)

With my little knnowledge of electric, urs rectifier seemed to haf a lot current passing...meaning instead of infinite resistance(0 current passing), u haf current passing..so theorectically the AC wave generated by the stator(whtever u call tht thing tht generate current to be sent to the rectifier),to be changed to DC, is not done..meaning AC to DC conversion (which is suppose to be the job of rectifier) is not completed...conclusion after going one big round is...RECTIFIER fried ...

suspect oso la...maybe due to some wear n tear and IDEALLY assumed IFINITE resistance is actually of some finite value big enuf to be assumed infinite...tht wheattone bridge thingie with one way current conducting diodes thingie...

So good luck ya...wana wait for my bike come back use my rectifier on ur bike to test?

Think maybe u should avoid testing ur suspected faulty rectifier on another bike, risk spoiling the battery ....again from those stoopid theories my teachers haf tot me back in sch hahaha

think i blur everyone out here with my lousy english muahaha... or probably i am dictating something tht everyone oredi knows *smart alleck*

kenneth

S750WP · September 21, 2004

Kenneth are you going to get a new or used rectifier to test, can check the resisitance on your rectifier?

chee_teck · September 22, 2004

I dun think my rectifier i spoiled. Not very likely cos i tried starting the bike acouple of times still can start n run engine. Lights everything still haf...meaning bike battery still charging rite? Am I right?

And my bike still in MLK so cannot chekc my rectifier resistance reading leh....anyone else can volunteer on their bike? or u wait till i come back then can test?

kenneth

kata_killer · September 22, 2004

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Originally posted by S750WP@Sep 21 2004, 04:12 PM
Btw do you have a spare rectifier for me to play, wana open it up and change the diode inside see can work or not?

So sorry, I dun have a spare rectifier for U to play.

S750WP · September 22, 2004

Just call KS, $130 for a new rectifier

xiao_p · September 22, 2004

"30. Ignition Coil

$130 for 2 pairs - KS Cycle"

$130 for 2 pairs meaning got 4 coils?

i fixed both coil at $100 each at GH

chee_teck · September 22, 2004

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Originally posted by xiao_p@Sep 22 2004, 01:48 PM
"30. Ignition Coil
$130 for 2 pairs - KS Cycle"

$130 for 2 pairs meaning got 4 coils?

i fixed both coil at $100 each at GH

yah i just bought it from KS $130 for both...for 4 plugs la......HG got workmanship ma...

chinjoon · September 22, 2004

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Originally posted by chee_teck@Sep 22 2004, 12:21 AM
think the air filter is got bandit vv..posted by chinjoon heheh ..i edit it..paiseh heheh

Yup Yup Yup... I post that!

Anyways, the air filter is not those sponge type. Price a bit on the high side, but service is good enough to compensate the cost.

September 22, 2004

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Originally posted by chinjoon@Sep 22 2004, 08:08 PM
Anyways, the air filter is not those sponge type. Price a bit on the high side, but service is good enough to compensate the cost.

Air filter for VV is not sponge type ah?

Different from the P model?

chinjoon · September 22, 2004

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Originally posted by RG@Sep 23 2004, 12:06 AM
Air filter for VV is not sponge type ah?
Different from the P model?

Yup...it is not sponge type.

It's a whole cylinder type sumthing like these

kata_killer · September 23, 2004

anybody change to after market Air filter? Any gd brand to recommend?

rocketman2 · September 24, 2004

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Originally posted by kata_killer@Sep 24 2004, 02:24 AM
anybody change to after market Air filter? Any gd brand to recommend?

was initially looking for knn filters but not easily available for our sg market. i can remember off hand the model nos for our bandits and the bs. let me check

update: only found the model for the gsf400 nonv. Itz SU0008

S750WP · September 24, 2004

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Originally posted by rocketman2@Sep 24 2004, 10:36 AM
was initially looking for knn filters but not easily available for our sg market. i can remember off hand the model nos for our bandits and the bs. let me check

update: only found the model for the gsf400 nonv. Itz SU0008

KNN air filter SU008 is for GSF400P

There is also a factory jet kit for GSF400P too.

Can get the parts from Sporting motorcycles if you want, they will order for you from US.

kata_killer · September 24, 2004

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Originally posted by S750WP@Sep 24 2004, 11:26 AM
KNN air filter SU008 is for GSF400P

There is also a factory jet kit for GSF400P too.

Can get the parts from Sporting motorcycles if you want, they will order for you from US.

Have u tried using it?

S750WP · September 24, 2004

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Originally posted by kata_killer@Sep 24 2004, 12:57 PM
Have u tried using it?

Nope everything is stock on my bandit.

My old bike use K&N, the bike rev feels lighter compare to stock air filter.

S750WP · September 24, 2004

I decided to buy a new rectifier rather than a second hand since the 2nd hand cost isn;t too far from a new.

I bought my rectifier from KS for $125(quote me $130 on the phone), and brought the battery to a shop to charge up for $2. After charge batt reading is 13.1volts.

I measure the resistance from the AC generator which is 70ohms all across for the 3 yellow wires, which tell me its working fine. and I replace the burnt (black/white and red) connector

The new rectifier wire color code(3 black, 1 black/white and 1 black/red) is different from the one I took out ( 3 yellow, 1 black/white and 1 red)

The new rectifier value measure is

B1(-) to B2(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B1(-) to B3(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B1(-) to B/R(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B1(-) to B/W(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B2(-) to B1(+) = infinity infinity)

B2(-) to B3(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B2(-) to B/R(+) = inifinity (spec infinity)

B2(-) to B/W(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B3(-) to B1(+) = inifinity (spec infinity)

B3(-) to B2(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B3(-) to B/R(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B3(-) to B/W(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B/R(-) to B1(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B/R(-) to B2(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B/R(-) to B3(+) = 3.5Mohms (spec 3.5Kohms)

B/R(-) to B/W(+) = 5Mohms (spec 6Kohms)

B/W(-) to B1(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B/W(-) to B2(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B/W(-) to B3(+) = infinity (spec infinity)

B/W(-) to B/W(+) = infinty (spec infinity)

The bike fire up in one click, the instrument gauges all becomes bright again. When blip the throttle the headlight dim for a second and turn bright again. The rectifier feel warm to the touch.

S750WP · September 25, 2004

Further charging test,

With load, high beam on. blip throttle to 5000rpm, batt reading 13.7volts. Close throttle, batt reading rose to 14.7volts and drop back to 12.7 volts.

Neutral light no more flickering as compare to before.

faradona · September 25, 2004

heard bandit always got problem wit cdi...

is it true... me want to get bandit 400...

s4 too common liao...

September 25, 2004

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Originally posted by faradona@Sep 25 2004, 02:22 PM
heard bandit always got problem wit cdi...
is it true... me want to get bandit 400...
s4 too common liao...

There's alot of hearsay about Bandit 400.

It's a 10 yr old bike, can't expect much.

Anyway, among those Bandit 400 owners that I know, only 1 person got CDI problem.

Easyrider_Bandit · September 25, 2004

hhehehe,

ANY model of Bike, 10 years old, will have CDI problem.

Its not the issue of "Bandit" at all.

In fact, if you name any part of the Bandit, I can think of someone with a problem there. If you buy a bandit, be prepared to replace ANYTHING. So far, I think the bike I am riding... I can only think of 4 components that have not been replaced yet.... rest all changed in the recent years liao.

Now Super 4 version S, since 5 years of age a lot got rectifier problem, that's a design fault there.

faradona · September 25, 2004

abang, then maintainence wise leh...

u noe anyone or shop sellin... for fL plate $2.8k ok not....

found it at yishun... one more thing, is it ok for touring....

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