Woopa!! Cbr1000rr Riders

[LastDance]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 15 2006, 02:00 PM

From what i know,your pts are cleared after 1 yr from the date you committed the offenced.But if you commit another offence before 2 yrs,you will get the points you commit now plus the 6 pts you committed earlier.That means you will have 12 pts (1yr) & 24 pts (2 yrs).Correct me if i'm wrong.

thanks Chilly

 

will confirm with SSDC since i'm going back on wed

[cosmos]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 16 2006, 10:09 AM

Nice meeting you Ronald yesterday.Hope you can join our future outings with the rest of the guys.You sure came well prepared with your safety gears

 

Cosmos - Waah...champion ah you.You didn't join us but went out with 2 'minah tudung' girls.1 riding a blackbird (don't pray pray) & the other riding sp.Don't forget to invite them for our next outing.

u last nite go in never jio me leh

i will ask them to join our outing next time

[Tashi]

Is there a restaurant in S'pore where you can have a nice pizza and watch MotoGP? Good food is very important.

[Saufi]

Hmmmzz,....

Juzt wondering,...

For the rear tyre,....

Which size would be a better choice,....

180 or 190,...???

[Saufi]

Btw,...

Saw a 06 fireblade at biketech21 on fri,...

It has two arrow exhauzt,...

Below the seat and at the side,...

Coool man,....

Wondering how much the exhauzt cozt,...

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Saufi@Jul 16 2006, 05:32 PM

Hmmmzz,....

Juzt wondering,...

For the rear tyre,....

Which size would be a better choice,....

180 or 190,...???

Saufi, if you want to flick like a MotoGP star, go with the 180, otherwise stick to the standard 190.

 

Rapper, the Power Race front lost 200kpa after a week and the rear lost 90kpa. I thought boy didn’t set the pressure right. I set the pressure myself last week and checked this morning, the front lost 70kpa while the rear lost 50kpa. I should get a new set.

 

I’m going up to Ipoh this Friday, Anyone riding up North this Friday morning?

[ronald814]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 16 2006, 10:09 AM

Nice meeting you Ronald yesterday.Hope you can join our future outings with the rest of the guys.You sure came well prepared with your safety gears

 

Cosmos - Waah...champion ah you.You didn't join us but went out with 2 'minah tudung' girls.1 riding a blackbird (don't pray pray) & the other riding sp.Don't forget to invite them for our next outing.

Ya sure Chilly, It was also nice meeting you, thanks for the treat. Safety gear was worn to allay my mum's fear of me riding a big bike ha ha but only in the night, afternoons are still too damn hot, once I worn during the day, I sure got giddy due to the heat. Please do call me for any Planned JB trips, I sure on if I am free.

 

Hi Cosmos, such a concidence, we are riding the same color bikes with the same helmet scheme. Great taste dude.

[ronald814]

Originally posted by Tashi@Jul 15 2006, 10:09 AM

Which is why when something like this happens, most ppl think they deserve it.

 

However, they're just your regular delivery guys during day time. They cannot afford to drink Sturbucks, so they just top up with $5 and they can have a whole night of fun.

Wah Tashi, the picture's smashed up head, darn scary, must be not wearing a helmet. As told to Chilly last weekend, recently there was a very famous American Football star Ben R from Steelers who worn without a helmet riding a hayabusa as it is legal in some parts of USA, he got banged from the side and his only injuries is a broken jaw and broken cheek bone so if he worn a full face helmet, there will be no injury at all. Valentine Rossi darn good yesterday in German Motogp race. Its been a while since it was so exciting with 4 riders challenging for the lead at the end.

[LastDance]

anybody knows where i can get a copy of FTT Q & A book? Or can loan a copy? Thanks.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Saufi@Jul 16 2006, 05:32 PM

Hmmmzz,....

Juzt wondering,...

For the rear tyre,....

Which size would be a better choice,....

180 or 190,...???

Been constantly swapping rear tyres between the 2 sizes you mentioned.

 

190 has good straightline stability but the bike corners like a pig... very hard to bring it down.

 

180 tends to be a little bit shaky above 240 KMH, but the bike leans over easily and hangs tight in the corners. Plus point is, because of the sharper profile, you lay a bigger footprint on the tarmac when leaned over unlike the 190s.

 

I personally prefer 180, currently on my bike now. I like the more rubber on the ground in the high speed corners.

 

Unless you do track alot, might as well stick to 190s. Makes the bike look good from the back.

 

Dun pray pray ok... today at PG, tweety64 was following me around the track.

 

Sadly she could not unglue her butt from the seat or else she would be dragging her knees through some of the corners.

:thumb:

[cosmos]

Originally posted by ronald814@Jul 17 2006, 01:48 PM

Ya sure Chilly, It was also nice meeting you, thanks for the treat. Safety gear was worn to allay my mum's fear of me riding a big bike ha ha but only in the night, afternoons are still too damn hot, once I worn during the day, I sure got giddy due to the heat. Please do call me for any Planned JB trips, I sure on if I am free.

 

Hi Cosmos, such a concidence, we are riding the same color bikes with the same helmet scheme. Great taste dude.

hi, see u in the next meet up

[Guest Throttlestop]

Originally posted by Raptor@Jul 17 2006, 09:28 PM

190 has good straightline stability but the bike corners like a pig... very hard to bring it down.

 

180 tends to be a little bit shaky above 240 KMH, but the bike leans over easily and hangs tight in the corners. Plus point is, because of the sharper profile, you lay a bigger footprint on the tarmac when leaned over unlike the 190s.

 

I personally prefer 180, currently on my bike now. I like the more rubber on the ground in the high speed corners.

 

Unless you do track alot, might as well stick to 190s. Makes the bike look good from the back.

Eh?? Brother-In-Law, pray tell how a 180 tire with 8 to 10mm LESS surface width, can lay down a larger contact patch, compared to a 190?

 

Also, please tell how a 180 section width, meant for 5.5inch width rims, will become sharper profile when spread out over a 6 inch-wide rim?

 

Bai x 3!

[chilly]

Originally posted by Throttlestop@Jul 18 2006, 12:46 PM

Eh?? Brother-In-Law, pray tell how a 180 tire with 8 to 10mm LESS surface width, can lay down a larger contact patch, compared to a 190?

 

Also, please tell how a 180 section width, meant for 5.5inch width rims, will become sharper profile when spread out over a 6 inch-wide rim?

 

Bai x 3!

Now,ur abg ipar is shooting back questions 2 u.Pl's explain how u got that theory to us.Something new to learn here

[chilly]

Throttle - Can u pm me where u did ur painwork ? TKS !

[chilly]

Originally posted by Tashi@Jul 17 2006, 10:56 AM

I’m going up to Ipoh this Friday, Anyone riding up North this Friday morning?

Ronald - Didn't i told you ? Tashi is an avid tourer.He can even go to Ipoh or Penang alone.

 

Tashi - Is ur 04 sold yet ? Ronald told me that his friend is taking class 2 now.When he pass later,he will bring his friend to have a look at ur bike provided it's not sold yet

 

Suspension settings !!!

 

http://world.honda.com/HRC/tech/result/all_s02.html

[Tashi]

Maybe he's applying Raptor science, not rocket science.

 

LD, try to get at driving centre. Old riders like us, we've thrown away those books a nong nong time ago.

 

MotoGP Sepang is 10 Sep this yr. Plan to take 8 Sep off as well. Should start making plans and book hotel soon. Let's book a suite at the Hilton and crash everybody in. I maybe able to get corporate rates.

 

Looking at last year's pix, dang happening.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....ic=9978&st=4320

[Tashi]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 18 2006, 09:29 PM

Ronald - Didn't i told you ? Tashi is an avid tourer.He can even go to Ipoh or Penang alone.

 

Tashi - Is ur 04 sold yet ? Ronald told me that his friend is taking class 2 now.When he pass later,he will bring his friend to have a look at ur bike provided it's not sold yet

 

Suspension settings !!!

 

http://world.honda.com/HRC/tech/result/all_s02.html

Have not sold yet.

 

I was planning to sell off my 06 this month, and trade in my 04 for a F4 1000R. But decided not to. I'm having too much fun on the 06. Should also wait till Sep when new bikes are introduced. Maybe should try K7.

[Tashi]

Old Blade vs New Blade article.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 18 2006, 09:09 PM

Now,ur abg ipar is shooting back questions 2 u.Pl's explain how u got that theory to us.Something new to learn here

After 2 track sessions, the tyres always look kinda vee- shaped to me, sides worn off but centre still like new. Be it 190 or 180, they all suffer the same fate.

 

Vee shaped (V) means smaller contact patch when bike is upright, but big contact patch when bike is lean hard over. Call it Raptor's theory or whatever you want, but I have done enough of track time to put in my 2 cents worth.

 

I dare not argue with my Bro-in-law. He is the MAN.

 

PS - anyone going to PG track tomorrow?? I will be riding an Aprilla RS125. Here's your chance to blow the crap outta me. thumb:

[tweety64]

Originally posted by Raptor@Jul 17 2006, 09:28 PM

Dun pray pray ok... today at PG, tweety64 was following me around the track.

 

Sadly she could not unglue her butt from the seat or else she would be dragging her knees through some of the corners.

:thumb:

Thk Raptor for guiding me how to take the corner......!!

U really good man!

Give me a shock the 1st time when u take the corner cos u can corner till spark out.

 

Me just dont dare to throw butt le, still abit scare la.....

Think i still need more pratice.

Anyway i do have fun in the track.

 

Tashi; Raptor ask me to jio u go track 1day.....hehehe

[Raptor]

Originally posted by tweety64@Jul 19 2006, 12:42 AM

Thk Raptor for guiding me how to take the corner......!!

U really good man!

Give me a shock the 1st time when u take the corner cos u can corner till spark out.

 

Me just dont dare to throw butt le, still abit scare la.....

Think i still need more pratice.

Anyway i do have fun in the track.

 

Tashi; Raptor ask me to jio u go track 1day.....hehehe

 

tweety, you are a very good student. You learn fast.

But what I think is most important is having a safe first time outing on the track, it makes it memorable and fun.

 

One of the guys from the group you were with took this video of me at Turn 12. Why they call it Ah Gong Chicane when it is a corner?

 

The grinding sound you hear is not my footpegs scraping the ground but my kneesliders with titanium inserts, that's why you saw sparks in some of the corners.

 

http://www.grouper.com/video/MediaDetails....26fu%3d1615781&

[Guest Throttlestop]

Originally posted by chilly@Jul 18 2006, 09:09 PM

Now,ur abg ipar is shooting back questions 2 u.Pl's explain how u got that theory to us.Something new to learn here 

 

 

I'd like to forward some views, to help correct what I deem as popular misconceptions:

 

a. A 180 section rear tire will enable faster turn in than a 190. This used to be true even just 5 years ago, for litre bikes. Today, this no longer holds water, with 190/55 section tires available. Metzeler Rennsports and Racetecs, as well as Pirelli Supercorsas are the only models in that specification, that were expressly designed to replicate the circumference of a 180/50 tire on a 5.5 inch rim, without the unwanted side-effects of fitting a 190/50 or a 180/50 on a six-inch wide rim. Plus, you get an additional 4mm of grip on either extreme edge of the tire at max lean angles, compared to a 180 tire. Michelin’s Power Race only comes in a 190/50 configuration, but those who have used these tires inform me that they work just like the Metzelers, leading me to conclude that the Power Race may have a higher section height than is listed.

 

b. A 190 section tire gains straightline stability at the expense of fast turn-in and cornering stability. Again, this used to be the case, but not today for the same reasons above.

 

c. Tire profile is determined by the section width, i.e. a 180 has a sharper profile than a 190. There is more to this statement. Tire profile is determined by a number of factors, such as construction (the number of plies, material and the way they are laid) and compound. In general, more plies add to a tire's weight, stiffness and heat buildup (as the individual cords rub when the tire flexes), but those plies can be laid at different angles to create both stability and grip. Different materials can be used to vary the strength and weight of any individual ply, and the cords can be wound in a number of different ways to subtly vary its profile and its effect. This is true of any sized tire.

 

d. Today’s track tires present a larger contact patch at full lean. A triangular profile tire will allow quicker turn-in, as the bike wants to fall into turns. This type of profile will present a bigger contact patch at a certain lean angle, as the tire surface angles away from the point and is relatively flat. But once that tire is leaned over onto its side, a lot of effort is required to lift it back up, resulting in higher steering effort (older Dunlop D208s and BT 001s come to mind). A rounded profile tire will provide more moderate steering effort with a better ability to make midcorner corrections, as there is no flat spot at any particular lean angle. Conversely, there is no portion of the tire that gives a larger contact patch for better grip. Most of the track-based tires available to us in Singapore (Racetecs, Supercorsas and Power Race tires) fall into the “rounded profile” category, so unless you still use “pointed profile” tires, you aren’t getting more contact patch at bigger lean angles.

 

 

Something also needs to be said about rim size. Most peeps tend to ignore this, at their own peril. While fitting larger sized tires on smaller rims (beyond their intended specifications) is dangerous (such as deliberately fitting a 190 section tire to a 5.5 inch rim as used by most 600cc bikes), there are subtle differences when going the other way (fitting 180 width tires on 6 inch rims). Many club racers in the MSS round fit 180 tires on their R1s, CBR 1000s and GSXR 1000s and they don’t seem to face any difficulties. They do it because they want a lighter tire with faster turn in. Well, all I can say is that their conclusions are based on past wisdom, that might no longer hold true. Many of these same racers will benefit from the additional grip provided by the wider 190/55 section tires, that have the same profile as their 180/50 counterparts on smaller 5.5inch rims.

 

I am indebted to Dunlop and Michelin, as well as Motorcyclist and Sportrider Magazines for some of the information here. Please feel free to agree or disagree with what I have written.

 

Cheers.

[ronald814]

Originally posted by Tashi@Jul 18 2006, 09:49 PM

Have not sold yet.

 

I was planning to sell off my 06 this month, and trade in my 04 for a F4 1000R. But decided not to. I'm having too much fun on the 06. Should also wait till Sep when new bikes are introduced. Maybe should try K7.

My friend looking for R1, I will try to persuade him when he pass. Ya, the new bikes should be awesome for 07 model.

[jungleboy111]

Anyone interested in the 06 service manual? Its backward compatible with the older models as well. Maybe can order together. Cheapest I found so far...

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CBR1000RR-2...sspagenameZWDVW

 

http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/35/b3/5e_1.JPG

[Tashi]

Originally posted by tweety64@Jul 19 2006, 12:42 AM

Tashi; Raptor ask me to jio u go track 1day.....hehehe

I wish I have time. But we should all make a point to go before Rapper leaves for US. I need a set of boots. I sold off my old pair.

 

Throttle / Rapper, you guys keep going with the brudder brudder foreplay, everyone’s gonna get a stiffy. Wahahaha. Sorry, I couldn’t help it.

 

Good stuffs on the suspension settings and tires.

 

Ronald, read my amateurish review on the R1 a couple of pages back.

 

JB, am still looking for a softcopy version. I am looking for digitized version of everything to free up space in my room. I hope things are sorted out for your Blade. When are you gonna join us and show us your new jacket?