Play to the Whistle. PLEASE!

[El Nino 9]

Started this topic as it is noticed that more and more social game players are becoming 'pitch-fighters'. Hope to send the message across for a more enjoyable and peaceful game.

As the title suggest, would like to urge all players to adhere to the 'simple yet most difficult to follow' rule, that is 'Play to the Whistle' please.

Players have to understand that the referee is being engaged to offer a very neutral point of judgement and decision making. He takes no sides, no matter if it is just a social game. Nothing major is at stake. Most are there to enjoy the game and play for the love of soccer.

 

Not to side the official, the referee may make mistakes here and there. But this is all part of the game where human touch is concerned and important. Notice why after so much debate, video technology is still not being 'legalise'? Even world cup referees make mistakes, with their 2 linesmen around, not to mention one-man-show freelancers. But if you got those referees who just operate within the centre circle and going through the motion type, only interested to collect your $ at the end, do consider blacklisting him.

If he has been making an effort to run and go near the action or ball so that a better call can be made, please give him the benefit of the doubt and play to the whistle. Do understand that everyone sees things differently, furthermore from different angles. That is why he is there to give a neutral judgement. He is only human to be able to see that much of the action from his angle. There are many hidden angles which players play dirty in order to get the advantage.

 

Player-wise, egoistic players are most annoying. They tend to put themselves above the team, especially so when they are on the losing side. They can be complaining just about everything, when they're robbed of the ball, when their players are offside, or even when they committed a foul. And when that happens, they still think they're right to do that. These kinds of selfish players normally end up jeopardising team performance and results. Just play your own game and concentrate on getting the best results for your team, its a team game. Not starting to blame everything and the referee, but yourselves. Soccer is a contact sport, for example, a not-too-aggressive shoulder charge is understandable. If not, consider switching sport, go play golf.

 

Recently, the R-E-S-P-E-C-T campaign is being promoted in Euro '08 and the new season. Let us all enjoy our game and playing time. Bring home an enjoyable feel after the game, nothing is at stake for a social game. Can we just put aside our egos for the 90 mins and PLAY TO THE WHISTLE PLEASE. Thanks alot.

[Gemini]

I share your sentiments. I hate it when opponents are those types that you mentioned. Instead of playing harder and better, more encouragement to rally team mates to get the results, they just sulk and get verbal. Real sore losers. Worst are those who want to fight at every chance, either eventhough when they get wrestle off the ball fairly or their team mates get fouled. I wonder they're there to fight or play ball.

 

I met opponent goalkeepers who think they can see offside better than the referee when they are at their own goalpost and the offside call is made against their striker, and started to get abusive. A disgrace to the sport.

 

Referees do make mistakes, sometimes i also get fed up. Haha... I do get my list of poor referees. But thats part of the game too, right. Positively thinking, they are part of the odds that are working against you. It depends on how you react and respond to it, just like everyday challenges in life. Work harder and dont let it bring you down.

See it that way, all players make mistakes too when they make a poor pass or deliver a poor shot at goal. But you will still continue play and even try it again when the chance arises. If not, i wonder what happens when you O.G. The point is, everybody makes mistakes, reflect yourself also. Always give people the benefit of the doubt at the first instance, Im sure if you make a mistake, you would want others to give you another chance too.

 

If the referee makes any mistake, just tell him in goodwill and if he is good, Im sure there will be a positive response. If not, add him to the list. Cheers!

[El Nino 9]

Thanks alot for your support. Eventhough no one else post their view, I appreciate at least there are some viewerships in here. Hope we can spread the good culture around and bring our graciousness in sports to the next level. Just wana stress that ANY SPORTS SHOULD BE ENJOYABLE & FUN AT THE END OF THE DAY. DONT LET THE COMPETITIVE NATURE OF THE SPORT SPOIL ANYBODY'S DAY.

[wait4me]

its very hard down here

 

u challeenge a little bit , thy buang song they play dirty

then when u kana play dirty , what do u do??

 

talk abt playing to whislte, i have seen this team i seriosully dunno whats their problem

when they score goal , they celebrate like its epl , or world cup and its every goal they score, and when the opponent score they shout and give comments like , wa steady la, can catch up a not?

or wa , so good ah .. ,else if they friend lose the ball which lead to their attack , they jus stand there and laugh

 

and i onli standing outside the game awaitng the earlier game to end, and the ppl playing are old uncles .. they toll these uncles. play monkey , hold the ball very long and wait for the uncle to come ,then pass away

if the uncle dun come they jus stand there and and talk, laugh ..

lucky is old uncle , i think if ah beng team , the game wont end

Edited June 16, 2009 by wait4me

[Gemini]

Must be young punks with serious attitude problems or Ah Beng team. A disgrace to the sport. They are what we always call 'black sheeps'. A bunch of trash. The very mention of them spoils days...

[jB]

its very hard down here

 

u challeenge a little bit , thy buang song they play dirty

then when u kana play dirty , what do u do??

 

talk abt playing to whislte, i haven this this team i seriosully dunno whats their problem

when they score goal , they celebrate like its epl , or world cup and its every goal they score, and when the opponent score they shout and give comments like , wa steady la, can catch up a not?

or wa , so good ah ..

 

and i onli standing outside the game awaitng the earlier game to end, and the ppl playing are old uncles .. they toll these uncles. play money , hodl the ball very long and wait for the uncle to come ,then pass away

if the uncle dun come they jus stand there and and talk ..

omg those bullies

[El Nino 9]

Lets promote graciousness and spread the good culture around. Not only for soccer... in any other sports too. Cheers!

[El Nino 9]

Keep the graciousness alive and spreading... Cheers!

[El Nino 9]

Upz... let the good run continue...

[Gemini]

Hi all, welcome back.... wish to illustrate some pointers which could be useful in reducing the amount of conflicts on the field...

 

For a start, wish to talk about the wall during a freekick after a foul is committed, say, by the defending team. Now, who can call for the wall? Attacking team / Defending team / Referee...

Keep yr votes going.....

 

Be Right Back...

[wait4me]

wwhat u mean call for a wall??

if its near the goalpost the goal keeper auto call for wall

[Gemini]

In this case, the initiative does not lie wif the defending team anymore as they hv committed a foul. So, defending tm has no right to call for wall, they can only ask if there is any. Tats y u can see lot of times, defending tm player stand in front of ball n ask ref 'got wall or not', right?

Attacking team can call for wall or dont want, but, referee has the say too. In certain situations, referee can 'want the wall' even when the attacking player does not want the wall.

[steel_headz]

How wan to organise a street soccer game?

[Barongan78]

In this case, the initiative does not lie wif the defending team anymore as they hv committed a foul. So, defending tm has no right to call for wall, they can only ask if there is any. Tats y u can see lot of times, defending tm player stand in front of ball n ask ref 'got wall or not', right?

Attacking team can call for wall or dont want, but, referee has the say too. In certain situations, referee can 'want the wall' even when the attacking player does not want the wall.

 

dis i hv to correct u bro...

defending team player went up to stand infront of d wall is bcos, it to giv time for his team to form a wall... dat is y somtimes u c d referee giv d player a yellow card cos he shld b 12 ft away frm d ball...

usually d defending tm player will ask d ref, is it direct or indirect freekick n also ask wait for d whistle or nt...

 

remember henry, x arsenal player? d opponent is bz forming d wall n wen d ref ask him whetherwanna wait for d whistle or nt, he juz shrugg his shldr n kick d ball n score, while d defending tm r bz forming d wall...

 

if wat u said(which is wrong btw), d opponent, which is d attacking team bn ask whether dey wan or nt d wall to b form, dey will gladly sae no wall pls, so dat dey cn score easily...

[alifk69]

dis i hv to correct u bro...

defending team player went up to stand infront of d wall is bcos, it to giv time for his team to form a wall... dat is y somtimes u c d referee giv d player a yellow card cos he shld b 12 ft away frm d ball...

usually d defending tm player will ask d ref, is it direct or indirect freekick n also ask wait for d whistle or nt...

 

remember henry, x arsenal player? d opponent is bz forming d wall n wen d ref ask him whetherwanna wait for d whistle or nt, he juz shrugg his shldr n kick d ball n score, while d defending tm r bz forming d wall...

 

if wat u said(which is wrong btw), d opponent, which is d attacking team bn ask whether dey wan or nt d wall to b form, dey will gladly sae no wall pls, so dat dey cn score easily...

 

yup, i agree.. if there is really such a rule where the attacking team can opt for wall or no wall, obviously EVERY team taking the freekick will opt for no wall..

 

anyway, if there is no wall, how to bend it like beckham? hehheh

[Gemini]

Steel: Bro, Im sorry Im not able to because of versatile job commitment.

 

Barongan / Alifk: Hi, thanks for coming in to discuss. So who calls for the wall? U meant Ref?

 

From my understanding, Referee will give yellow card if player still refuses to move 10 yards after telling him to do so after probably 2-3 times. But if the defending player stand in front of ball n then slowly retreat back to the 10 yards, it is still considered in the process of moving backwards. So they normally exploit this loophole n take time to organise abit, esp when there is no wall. Whistle or not links to the wall, if no wall, dont hv to wait for whistle (unless stoppage or other issues). If attacking player asks for wall n kicks without referees' whistle, straight yellow!

 

In fact, there are attacking teams who asks for wall during freekicks, cos tactically there are possible loopholes to exploit even if there is wall. Ie. if u hv ppl who can take freekicks. (Beckham would gladly want the wall if ref asks him.) So did the Henry goal count? In this case, the defending team assumes there is a wall? Is that why defending tm normally stand in front of ball n ask n dont assume there is wall after that incident.

[Barongan78]

Barongan / Alifk: Hi, thanks for coming in to discuss. So who calls for the wall? U meant Ref?!

its up to d defending team to calls for d wall, nt d ref or d attacking team...

 

From my understanding, Referee will give yellow card if player still refuses to move 10 yards after telling him to do so after probably 2-3 times. But if the defending player stand in front of ball n then slowly retreat back to the 10 yards, it is still considered in the process of moving backwards. So they normally exploit this loophole n take time to organise abit, esp when there is no wall. Whistle or not links to the wall, if no wall, dont hv to wait for whistle (unless stoppage or other issues). If attacking player asks for wall n kicks without referees' whistle, straight yellow!

again, i've to correct u.. d attacking team hu r preparing to take d freekick wun ask for a wall, its d defending team...

 

In fact, there are attacking teams who asks for wall during freekicks, cos tactically there are possible loopholes to exploit even if there is wall. Ie. if u hv ppl who can take freekicks. (Beckham would gladly want the wall if ref asks him.) So did the Henry goal count? In this case, the defending team assumes there is a wall? Is that why defending tm normally stand in front of ball n ask n dont assume there is wall after that incident.

yet again, d attacking team wun ask for a wall, period bro...

 

n yup, henry goal stand, cos d ref ask him whether he wanna wait for d whistle or nt n he din ans, juz kick d ball while d defending keeper n player r bz forming d wall..

[Gemini]

Ermm... sorry but if the defending team commits the foul n still can call for wall, isnt that very contradicting?

 

Henry goal stands thats y its the attacking team who wants the wall or not, right? In this case, Henry dont want the wall (but defending tm assumes there is a wall) tats y no need to wait for whistle. If Ur saying defending team calls for wall n Henry (attacking tm) just kick it in, in tat case, goal wont stand, bro.

 

N like i mentioned earlier, whistle is pegged to wall, other than stoppage of play or other issues, so cant be defending tm calls for wall n Henry wont want to wait for the whistle. Im pretty sure that is not the case.

 

I've asked ard n seems that u need to be corrected. Been told by all that its the attacking team or referee who calls for wall, never the defending tm as they hv committed the foul. U wana check it out thoroughly...wif any referee or? No offence...

[Gemini]

any other bros can contribute or confirm this sub-topic pls.... ;p

[Barongan78]

Ermm... sorry but if the defending team commits the foul n still can call for wall, isnt that very contradicting?

 

Henry goal stands thats y its the attacking team who wants the wall or not, right? In this case, Henry dont want the wall (but defending tm assumes there is a wall) tats y no need to wait for whistle. If Ur saying defending team calls for wall n Henry (attacking tm) just kick it in, in tat case, goal wont stand, bro.

yes, defending team form a wall, dun hv to ask d ref at all..

d defending team will only ask d ref whether wait for d whistle or nt for d attacking player to kick..

N like i mentioned earlier, whistle is pegged to wall, other than stoppage of play or other issues, so cant be defending tm calls for wall n Henry wont want to wait for the whistle. Im pretty sure that is not the case.

 

I've asked ard n seems that u need to be corrected. Been told by all that its the attacking team or referee who calls for wall, never the defending tm as they hv committed the foul. U wana check it out thoroughly...wif any referee or? No offence...

 

no worries bro... i juz infm u wat i noe... evry1 hv der own opinion...

 

henry goal stand is bcos he din wan to wait for d whistle, n nt bcos he din wan d wall...

 

up to u if u tink dat attacking team is d 1 hu hv d right to ask for a wall or nt..

may i noe hu did u ask ard?

mayb u shld ask d right person ba...

most of my frens hu use to play soccer wit me, wen i met dem, dey hv bcome referee

Edited June 19, 2009 by Barongan78

[alifk69]

i try to put it simply:

1. the attacking team only decides if they wanna wait for the whistle or not.

2. the defending team decides if they wanna put up wall or not.

 

i believe this is the correct intrepetation because of a few logical reasons.

 

1. if there free kick is too far frm the goal (ie offside) then the defending team wont bother to put up a wall. it would be a little silly if the attacking team request for a wall then.

 

2. if the attacking team is the one who decides the wall, then would the referee tell the defending team of the decision? i mean, lets say the ref ask henry if he wants the wall, then henry says yes. but no one from the defending team is forming the wall.. what happens then? the ref issue yellow card to ALL the defending players for not forming the wall?

 

3. as in barongan's post, henrys goal stand becuz he did not want to wait for the whistle. nothing to do with the wall.. thats why the defending team's argument abt 'not playing to the whistle' was ignored.

 

4. when a defending player stands in front of the ball when the attacking player is awarded the free kick, he is buying time for his team to make the wall, not asking the opponent if they want the wall. thats why some players get yellow card, cuz ref consider this time wasting. and if u notice, when the defending player stand in front of the ball, his head will turn back to see if the wall is ready.

 

just my 2 cents..

[Gemini]

Hihi, thanks alot for the clearer clarification, probably its my question that is not complete, and the 2 critical areas are the wall n the whistle, which can be marginally separated in different scenarios. Wall = whistle but whistle not = wall, right?

 

I guess in this case I'm seeking more of the standardisation rather than opinions cos I would like to learn what is the actual procedure or who has the right. I've asked all sorts of ppl, some with different answers thats y confusing, even referees could provide diff answers. In the end i ask my fren's fren to go n ask his senior referee n he pointed out the 'whistle may not be = wall' point.

 

In addition, similar to my initial question, eventhough the attacking player may not want to wait for the whistle, referee can demand that the player is to wait for his whistle in certain scenarios. This is the point that im trying to bring across actually cos I encountered opponent argue with referee say he dont want the whistle but the referee says he want, then the ugly happens, so...

 

Thanks alot... Keep the discussion on man! Other issues....?

Edited June 20, 2009 by Gemini