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[Exhaus-tion]

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[sunnyday]

Originally posted by Exhaus-tion@Aug 27 2004, 06:30 PM

I'LL TRY TO LOOK BEYOND THE OUTLOOK THEN.

I'VE TRIED NIKON COOLPIX 2MP. PIX TURN OUT QUITE OK BUT ABOVE 4R CAN C DOTS ALREADY.

 

WAT I'VE READ IN MAGS IS DAT 5/6MP DIGIS CAM PRODUCE HIGHER QUALITY PIX. I NOT SURE, AT 1ST I TOT A 4MP CAN DO BUT STILL NEED YR EXPERT REVIEWS.

 

ACTUALLY I CAN CONSIDER MYSELF SNAP FOR FUN BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE. I FEEL SO...SO...SO DUNNO HOW TO EXPLAIN WEN I GET GOOD QUALITY PIX!!

wanna learn..get the a75/a80

[scud]

Exhaus-tion,

i may be wrong, but from the pixs that you posted, i can summarized that u take photos for leisure, or during short trips.

 

in this case, i would recommend canon A80 (like wat sunnyday suggested), but also look beyond canon brand, eg nikon, minolta, fuji, olympus.

 

pros and cons consumer cam as below:

A. storage / memory card

1. olympus n fuji use xD card, which i think is the most expensive per MB.

2. CF is the cheapest, can get 512MB Kingston at $99.

3. sd is also cheap, but i believe cf is better for $/MB.

 

B. 4 or 5MP?

1. dont bother to look at

2. anything above 4 is good enough for you to print up to 8R.

 

C. Features?

1. get one with manual setting, eg Auto, Program, Tv, Av, Manual, Sports, Lanscape, etc.

2. what is the optical zoom (read optical zoom, not digital zoom)? the bigger the better.

3. batteries type? AA is easily available worldwide.

 

Lastly, what is your budget.

My advise, understand what you like to shoot, what is your style (landscape, sports etc) and work within your budget.

allocate some $$ for accessories (eg pouch, rechargable batt, filters, memory cards). best is ask if these are included or given as free gift in your purchase.

hmm.,.... that what i can think of. hope it helps..

[scud]

Originally posted by horizoner@Aug 27 2004, 07:36 AM

anyway, y do u guys like photography?

i was playing with my dad's minolta FM cam, X-GM after school. that was in mid-80s. dunno how to use it, so started by reading the manual. guess what, got hooked immediately.

 

all the way till now, from SLR to DSLR. no turning back since..... guess that it's a black hole!!!

[scud]

black hole that sucked me into this hobby.

[scud]

black hole that sucked me into this hobby.

[sunnyday]

photography is a super ex hobby..lucky mi only using a70..not much accessories to buy..can't imagine if i use dslr..lens r super ex!!!

[Exhaus-tion]

Originally posted by scud@Aug 27 2004, 10:50 PM

Exhaus-tion,

i may be wrong, but from the pixs that you posted, i can summarized that u take photos for leisure, or during short trips.

 

in this case, i would recommend canon A80 (like wat sunnyday suggested), but also look beyond canon brand, eg nikon, minolta, fuji, olympus.

 

pros and cons consumer cam as below:

A. storage / memory card

1. olympus n fuji use xD card, which i think is the most expensive per MB.

2. CF is the cheapest, can get 512MB Kingston at $99.

3. sd is also cheap, but i believe cf is better for $/MB.

 

B. 4 or 5MP?

1. dont bother to look at

2. anything above 4 is good enough for you to print up to 8R.

 

C. Features?

1. get one with manual setting, eg Auto, Program, Tv, Av, Manual, Sports, Lanscape, etc.

2. what is the optical zoom (read optical zoom, not digital zoom)? the bigger the better.

3. batteries type? AA is easily available worldwide.

 

Lastly, what is your budget.

My advise, understand what you like to shoot, what is your style (landscape, sports etc) and work within your budget.

allocate some $$ for accessories (eg pouch, rechargable batt, filters, memory cards). best is ask if these are included or given as free gift in your purchase.

hmm.,.... that what i can think of. hope it helps..

...and i wud also like a camera which has d waterproof case accessory for rain protection n underwater shots!!! thanks 4 d tips... any tips on d thing i jus mentioned??

[sunnyday]

Originally posted by Exhaus-tion@Aug 28 2004, 05:25 AM

...and i wud also like a camera which has d waterproof case accessory for rain protection n underwater shots!!! thanks 4 d tips... any tips on d thing i jus mentioned??

underwater casing not cheap..almost 50-75% of a camera price..for a70..i think is ard 300+..my cam..i bought ard 500..u go figure..dunoe abt other brands/models

[scud]

if you are into underwater photography, then u/w casing is compulsory, which i think is veri ex like what sunnyday mentioned.

 

another thing is that electronics gadgets and water are NOT FRIENDS, so take proper precaution. if you need u/w casing just to shoot in the rain, think again, you may find it a white elephant later.

[scud]

Originally posted by sunnyday@Aug 28 2004, 01:03 AM

photography is a super ex hobby..lucky mi only using a70..not much accessories to buy..can't imagine if i use dslr..lens r super ex!!!

ha ha ha, when you realised that you have had enough (or when you feel you need more control) with your dc, then upgrade & upgrade & upgrade ....... to DSLR....

[sunnyday]

Originally posted by scud@Aug 28 2004, 10:12 PM

ha ha ha, when you realised that you have had enough (or when you feel you need more control) with your dc, then upgrade & upgrade & upgrade ....... to DSLR....

300D can be gotten for ard 1000-1100 now..the 28-105mm/f3.5-4.5 can be gotten ard 300..both 2nd hand..just with this 2..can get started oredi..but 1st thing..where do i find 1.4k?? anyway 300D's price goin to drop even more after 20D comes on sale..maybe need another 512mb or 1gb though..

[scud]

yes, agree with u.

it will come down even more after introduction of 20D into the market.

 

save bullet for the next upgrade lor.

[sunnyday]

Originally posted by horizoner@Aug 29 2004, 02:36 AM

i don't thk 300D will drop much cos 10D will be the one which is affected most. 300D and 20D belongs to different consumer group. that's wat i thk only

kind of related bah..if 10D prices drop beri badly..pple would rather buy a 2nd hand 10D as compared to a 2nd hand 300D..so 300D's 2nd hand price oso have to drop to make it sellable

[scud]

300D is EFS mount, 20D is also EFS mount which mean they have more lenses to choose from (EF-S 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 USM, EF-S17-85 IS U and not to mention EF-S18-55).

10D is EF mount, therefore the above EF-S lenses are not compatible.

 

based on this, i think 300D price may not be significantly affected, badly hit will be 10D.

[scud]

Originally posted by horizoner@Aug 30 2004, 07:58 AM

I heard that EFS lenses can be modified to fit on EF body? am i right?

 

20D is still 1.6 FOV huh?

yup, it can be done, but run a risk of mirror hitting the back protuding glass of the lens.

i almost at the verge to mod the lens, that time was deciding to buy at $105.

at last, after discussion with CS friends, they say not worth the try, save the hassle lor.

 

yes, 20D is still having 1.6 FLM (focal length multiplication).

i guess FOV means Field of View (which i dont think it is 100% for 20D) - FOV is the view of what you see thru the viewfinder vs the actual pic u take.

[scud]

kekeke.... wake up, wake up..... :sleep:

[scud]

imo, the FLM does actually helps, esp where it multiplies the focal length of the lenses that we use.

setback is only when we want to have ultra wide angle shoots,

example if want to get 19mm effective, then need to use 12mm x 1.6=19.2mm

ultra wide angle is good to have if shooting with film, and useful if use with dslr.

[scud]

most of my night scene pics are in HDD, some can be found in this link.

 

will try to upload to web, no promise thou.

 

cmos vs ccd.... this been in debate for quite sometime.

honestly, ccd is better as it consume less batt, thus u get a longer run on 1 charge.

cmos needs to charge up before can be used, that explained why startup time for D70 is faster.

[scud]

Was on my way back from NUS and saw the full moon.

Reached home, packed my gears and took a picture of full moon.

 

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[scud]

Originally posted by horizoner+-->

QUOTE (horizoner)

i c... then don't switch off lor .. like this 0 start up time [/b] i set my cam to energy saving mode, so no instant startup..   Originally posted by horizoner@ btw scud, seen the wedding series ... steady boom bi bi! thanks for the encouragement.

[scud]

i dont have it in hand now, maybe tonite i will post. well, it was an orange staring down to mother earth.

[scud]

my setup was with tripod, at 300mm. shoot raw, then do some post processing eg sharpen, brightness etc.

had some pix which are not sharp as i did not use cable release, coupled with the zoom at 300mm.