SBF MaxSym Cafe

etkach3 · July 19, 2012

1) the difference between maxsym and other scooters u have rode before (for those who have ridden other scooters before)?

Tough to answer holistically. Owned X9, ST200, X8, a little of SW400 (Rented), maintained (and rode ) X1 and a Sparks for friends when they went for overseas postings. Was expecting the bike to feel like Taiwan made, but NO. Was nicely surprised instead. Furthermore, I was one of the few that bought it without opportunity to test ride at Mah, only able to start the engine and rev the hell out of it until Uncle Chew told me to "Relax! Relax!" So far bike is satisfying, good punch to pull off at the lights despite the weight and FC is very reasonable. Good low cruising RPM on the highway.

But then again objectively, I don't think any surviving Maxsym owner will tell you it's crap esp in this thread.

2) what is the 2 least satisfying feature of the bike since you bought it?

Signal indication in the dash too dim in the day.
I think a better quality tyre from factory will make me happier. Current tires compound is too hard for wet weather riding imo.

3) what do you think the resale value will be like for maxsym?
Not good. Agree with Chemol, Buy a scoot and rot with it, use it like how it should be employed. Go market buy veggies, buy kopi, buy 4D, go banks put cheque, go town watch movies, go to/fro work, go touring (short trips for me, don't stress the machine).

I think you are lucky as you have the opportunity to join in meetups to touch and feel the bike, from there you can make a well balanced decision.

But I would tell you, just buy one.

:thumb:

Yep i agree with you on the tyres, the maxxis tyres that they giv us i a piece of crap at wet weather...lol..

and mine craked at 13k km, so i change to a more reliable well known to all: DIablo Scoot Tyres

Resale value..hmmm...imo for a 400cc, this is the cheapest scoot and it a SYM :) so u know i know hor..lol

Yes! JUST BUY ONE!!

why?

- Coz its cheapest 400cc scoot/bike

- Low maintenance (@ $60 u can full service the scoot)

- FC is good @ 25-26km/l

- Lots of storage (especially if u put 42l top box)

- Stable at corners (I personally tried cornering at 110km/h)

- Good top speed (160km/hr+++)

Leftlegged · July 19, 2012

Appreciate the response from you guys...

I wasnt really hoping much for the scoots to hold a low depreciation, but was just seeing if any of you think that Taiwan scoots are gonna make a big wave in our local market, which will help owners to hold up the price a little.

As for the features, as i havent fixed a box for many years already, any storage is better than none! haha

MERCENARY · July 19, 2012

Appreciate the response from you guys...

I wasnt really hoping much for the scoots to hold a low depreciation, but was just seeing if any of you think that Taiwan scoots are gonna make a big wave in our local market, which will help owners to hold up the price a little.

As for the features, as i havent fixed a box for many years already, any storage is better than none! haha

It may make a big wave,it's a matter of time.

Regarding price,i believe many owners of this bike feels that the resale price is really secondary.

By fixing a box,you will have to remove the pillion seat rest.Unless you go to Seng Kwang to weld a bracket,which i feel the maker failed in this aspect.

etkach3 · July 20, 2012

Appreciate the response from you guys...

I wasnt really hoping much for the scoots to hold a low depreciation, but was just seeing if any of you think that Taiwan scoots are gonna make a big wave in our local market, which will help owners to hold up the price a little.

As for the features, as i havent fixed a box for many years already, any storage is better than none! haha

It may make a big wave,it's a matter of time.
Regarding price,i believe many owners of this bike feels that the resale price is really secondary.

By fixing a box,you will have to remove the pillion seat rest.Unless you go to Seng Kwang to weld a bracket,which i feel the maker failed in this aspect.

I think maxsym riders might agree with me is that the only bad thing about this scoot is:

- The seat locking system, always very hard to lock, seems like the alignment is something wrong.

- The headlight: It will be good if they put in "Factory-installed-HID Kit"

- The windshield height..its alil bit low for me

@Leftlegged,

I do believe that maxsym is going to be a big hit, coz its selling like hotcakes in Europe, and the reason why they bring in to Asia is that, ppl from this part of the continent are demanding to make Maxsym available in Asia too..SIngapore & HKG are the first to receive the Maxsym in Asia; followed by Thailand and this July Indonesia, India, Middle East & Malaysia..

We are just waiting eagerly for the aftermarket parts to arrive in Sg such Exhaust pipes and accessories :thumb:

Edited July 20, 2012 by etkach3

ad2000 · July 20, 2012

Hi all,

i have PDF copy of Maxsym Service Manual. Will be handy for maxsym owners. Anyone interested, pls pm me ur email (file size approx 11Mb)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9994/maxsymcover.jpg

max hammad · July 20, 2012

Just booked a red maxsym just now. Hope to get it soon!

Welcome to the club....

Sorry for the late welcome...

lawr3nc3 · July 20, 2012

Hi all,

i have PDF copy of Maxsym Service Manual. Will be handy for maxsym owners. Anyone interested, pls pm me ur email (file size approx 11Mb)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9994/maxsymcover.jpg

Can u email me the service manual?

lawr3nc3loo#yahoo.com.sg

Thanks

ad2000 · July 20, 2012

Friends who pm'ed me for the service manual PDF. pls check ur email

naim · July 20, 2012

Welcome to the club....

Sorry for the late welcome...

no prob bro. hope to meet up wif the rest of the riders soon! 2 weeks and clocked 900+km alr. loving the bike more every day.

MERCENARY · July 20, 2012

I think maxsym riders might agree with me is that the only bad thing about this scoot is:

- The seat locking system, always very hard to lock, seems like the alignment is something wrong.
- The headlight: It will be good if they put in "Factory-installed-HID Kit"
- The windshield height..its alil bit low for me

@Leftlegged,
I do believe that maxsym is going to be a big hit, coz its selling like hotcakes in Europe, and the reason why they bring in to Asia is that, ppl from this part of the continent are demanding to make Maxsym available in Asia too..SIngapore & HKG are the first to receive the Maxsym in Asia; followed by Thailand and this July Indonesia, India, Middle East & Malaysia..

We are just waiting eagerly for the aftermarket parts to arrive in Sg such Exhaust pipes and accessories :thumb:

Yes i totally agree.

Just to share from me that needs SYM to improve for MaxSym 400i,

1)Once press the unlock button for the seat,it doesnt automatically raises up like Silverwing does.

2)The stock tyres needs to be replaced.

3)Windshield sucks too short for me,even now at the maximum height still insufficient.

There are fogs inside the areas specifically only for both my headlights,discovered that after heavy rain.Any riders experience the same issue as mine?

Rear headlight cover on the right have many hair line scratches internally,went to Mah to claim.Got to wait for approximately around two months for replacement.

i am eagerly looking forward for the aftermarket windshield.

torti-bkk · July 20, 2012

Yes i totally agree.
Just to share from me that needs SYM to improve for MaxSym 400i,
1)Once press the unlock button for the seat,it doesnt automatically raises up like Silverwing does.
2)The stock tyres needs to be replaced.
3)Windshield sucks too short for me,even now at the maximum height still insufficient.

There are fogs inside the areas specifically only for both my headlights,discovered that after heavy rain.Any riders experience the same issue as mine?
Rear headlight cover on the right have many hair line scratches internally,went to Mah to claim.Got to wait for approximately around two months for replacement.

i am eagerly looking forward for the aftermarket windshield.

already at the Market but not easy to get.

July 21, 2012

Recently removed my rear topbox and rack. After a few trips riding without it handling is so much better. Bike is truly agile and nimble around bends.

I think I will stick to this setup and buy a rear seat hugger if I am carrying more items or on tours.

Like this....

naim · July 21, 2012

Just DIYed my 1000km service. not as easy as my phantom, but not that hard either. filled her up wif Motul 300V and redline gear oil. can't wait to go on a long and fast ride! rode around the neighborhood for awhile and its soooooo much smoother!

Recently removed my rear topbox and rack. After a few trips riding without it handling is so much better. Bike is truly agile and nimble around bends.

I think I will stick to this setup and buy a rear seat hugger if I am carrying more items or on tours.

Like this....[ATTACH=CONFIG]251922[/ATTACH]

sound fun! but i still need my box around. there is never too much storage space for me. HAHA!

the tail pack looks good. will blend well wif the bike.

July 21, 2012

Does your topbox have quick release system? If so just remove it, go ride around and Kup few corners. Very different feel.

naim · July 21, 2012

Does your topbox have quick release system? If so just remove it, go ride around and Kup few corners. Very different feel.

wooo! idea! will do that and visit some Neo Tiew corners..

Leftlegged · July 21, 2012

:thumb:

Yep i agree with you on the tyres, the maxxis tyres that they giv us i a piece of crap at wet weather...lol..
and mine craked at 13k km, so i change to a more reliable well known to all: DIablo Scoot Tyres

Resale value..hmmm...imo for a 400cc, this is the cheapest scoot and it a SYM :) so u know i know hor..lol

Yes! JUST BUY ONE!!
why?
- Coz its cheapest 400cc scoot/bike
- Low maintenance (@ $60 u can full service the scoot)
- FC is good @ 25-26km/l
- Lots of storage (especially if u put 42l top box)
- Stable at corners (I personally tried cornering at 110km/h)
- Good top speed (160km/hr+++)

thanks guys, have made up my mind...just booked it at mah earlier today. cant wait for collection!

rusty83 · July 21, 2012

Recently removed my rear topbox and rack. After a few trips riding without it handling is so much better. Bike is truly agile and nimble around bends.

I think I will stick to this setup and buy a rear seat hugger if I am carrying more items or on tours.

Like this....[ATTACH=CONFIG]251922[/ATTACH]

Where can I find the rear seat hugger bro? Motorworld?

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DeZewL · July 21, 2012

Recently removed my rear topbox and rack. After a few trips riding without it handling is so much better. Bike is truly agile and nimble around bends.

I think I will stick to this setup and buy a rear seat hugger if I am carrying more items or on tours.

Like this....[ATTACH=CONFIG]251922[/ATTACH]

Finally u removed it.. hehehe.. so how is the handling now?

Nice bag to put on..

DeZewL · July 21, 2012

thanks guys, have made up my mind...just booked it at mah earlier today. cant wait for collection!

Welcome to the house of MaxSym!!

DeZewL · July 21, 2012

Where can I find the rear seat hugger bro? Motorworld?

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Maybe Givi got a few line-up for it?

rusty83 · July 21, 2012

Maybe Givi got a few line-up for it?

Oh is Givi huh? But there's no givi shop in sg right? Except over at Mah motors..

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DeZewL · July 21, 2012

Oh is Givi huh? But there's no givi shop in sg right? Except over at Mah motors..

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No. Im not sure. But maybe Givi might have. Yea Mah carries Givi products..

etkach3 · July 21, 2012

Friends who pm'ed me for the service manual PDF. pls check ur email

you service manual is great :thumb:

hahahaha..i "surgical operate" my bike this morning...hehehehhehe

I remove the rear airbox unit and place it with cone type (fixed to the 2nd air box)

FYI the 2nd Airbox tube is 63mm Diameter

etkach3 · July 21, 2012

Yes i totally agree.
Just to share from me that needs SYM to improve for MaxSym 400i,
1)Once press the unlock button for the seat,it doesnt automatically raises up like Silverwing does.
2)The stock tyres needs to be replaced.
3)Windshield sucks too short for me,even now at the maximum height still insufficient.

There are fogs inside the areas specifically only for both my headlights,discovered that after heavy rain.Any riders experience the same issue as mine?
Rear headlight cover on the right have many hair line scratches internally,went to Mah to claim.Got to wait for approximately around two months for replacement.

i am eagerly looking forward for the aftermarket windshield.

eh? my rear one too..you go mah and what they say?

etkach3 · July 21, 2012

thanks guys, have made up my mind...just booked it at mah earlier today. cant wait for collection!

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