[cdc] 2b

[darkredmica]

Hey mica & ahxian90,

 

Thanks much for sharing tips & experiences. Ya perhaps its an overkill of revisions but bourne out of exasperation & desperation with F8 & most esp plank => sure IF case if go for L5 (not trying to justify). Frankly, just did not feel ready & confident for it yet. So thats why i strategised complete focus on 1 activity per session so that I could at least not IF them for L5. Maybe wrong strategy cos i got good at F8 & crank during Rev2 & proceeded for plank/slalom practice for other revs. So today at Rev 5, towards the end of the session I revisited the F8 & crank & it was a complete disaster! Good bike but just couldnt perform even at steady/moderate speed. fell down, ran out of course etc. Coincidentally Mr Bahtera conducting L3, saw me both speed thro the F8 in Rev2 & saw me fail evrytime today! He commented my approach & eyeline was correct but found it strange that my arms just wasnt steering enough. He thinks maybe its bcos I spent too long at the plank =>muscle memory locked in. (or was it fatigue?). His theory is I failed because I over focused on 1 activity. Hard to accept this super drastic loss of form after doing so well before, despite a fairly decent plank/slalom day. Fortunately those few times i did ebrake, & hill start along the 5 revs were still intact & solid.

 

Also not sure if i had the right philosophy to begin with. Being a former school athlete, we're used to pushing the bar up for training. So applied same idea for revs. The logic being by setting more stringent targets, if i meet them, passing tests will be easier! lol... So set faster F8s & ebrake & slower plank targets for myself & really piah! To some extent i was getting there. But now that you say 60% luck..... i think I need to rethink hahaha

 

Ok, what do you think of this strategy(s)? - I have 2 more revs this week. Both times do full circuit course regardless of F8/crank performance, then return to these 2 after completing the full round(s). Then book L5 & 1 rev immediately before it for next week or whenever slot available. Or rediscover F8/crank basic form 1st then do full circuit course & then return to improve F8/crank after completion. Im open to any new ideas etc.

Just go for 1 revision that's all before your next L5. I think you've gone for too many that you've tire yourself out and suffering from fatigue now.

 

Try out L5. It ain't as hard as what you think. You only need to do everything swee swee once and that's it.

 

Honestly I think a lot of it has to do with luck. And just because you do badly for revision doesn't mean you will fail L5. Just because you mount the curb or what for warm up round, doesn't mean you will repeat that for actual evaluation.

 

On the contrary, I think it's good to make mistakes during warm up round. You're likely not to commit same mistake during the real test.

[AhXian90]

 

Ok, what do you think of this strategy(s)? - I have 2 more revs this week. Both times do full circuit course regardless of F8/crank performance, then return to these 2 after completing the full round(s). Then book L5 & 1 rev immediately before it for next week or whenever slot available. Or rediscover F8/crank basic form 1st then do full circuit course & then return to improve F8/crank after completion. Im open to any new ideas etc.

 

 

Wow bro, i prob not in a good position to comment,as im still very new lol. But based on wad u described and mr bahtera comment, i do feel that is ur muscle memory has locked in. Reason being u did mention that u spend solely 2 straight rev on plank ebrake itself(90% plank? + a couple of ebrake) when doing plank, u prob had that idea of controlling ur steering, which u have carry over to ur fig8. Idk just my penny of my thot o.o.

 

When i do my rev(usually 2 cir rev back to back save my time and bus fares lol:cheeky:) 1st round i would just go randomly,1 full circuit, den jump to fig 8(after every TRY do ur own evaluation, not smooth?do again;swee enuf? okay go slope/plank) lik maybe 6x, den shortcut thru slope then plank,if i see plank too packed, go back slope and plank and jump back fig8 etc; 2nd round will be do a couple more round of circuit, if sian den jump around do the course. What im saying is that u shuld prob jumble up, and not 100% wack on just that station, u shuld somewad be lik at the end of ur day ur stats is lik e.g. maybe 15x plank,8x fig8, 4x slope 8 ebrake, it shuld be lepak, fun and legs sore lol. Doing full squence circuit also an idea, but bored out after 3 -4 round,T-junction alone will bored u big time lor.

 

Strategy ar, hmm u shuld have alrdy book ur L5(maybe 1 backup aswell) once u pass l4, give ur self lik maybe 1-2 week time frame, then inbetween squeeze in ur CR, for me its lik 3~4 days apart,1 week i would lik go down cdc 3 time, cos i was pretty free that time took alot ns OFF,this is wad i usually planned, tue- 2x CR, thur- 2x CR, fri- 1CR(focus on whole circuit seq aleast 2~3x)+L5. And for backup slot maybe book it within same week, or close enuf (ur muscle memory in-play). then 1cr+backup L5. This has worked for me till my TP. One more thing, u shuld alrdy noe is tat CR cant be cancel, but u can always last min book it, as its usually available.

[AhXian90]

great source of info.. A must before my practicals. I am trying to book my RTT, is it under the theory test?

 

yep, under there.But advise is that,to take ur RTT concurrent wif ur practs as it will take sometime,btw u will ned to have completed all ur theories, DRT, as well as a internal evaulation, den ur able to book for RTT.

[jbdoggy]

Just go for 1 revision that's all before your next L5. I think you've gone for too many that you've tire yourself out and suffering from fatigue now.

 

Try out L5. It ain't as hard as what you think. You only need to do everything swee swee once and that's it.

 

Honestly I think a lot of it has to do with luck. And just because you do badly for revision doesn't mean you will fail L5. Just because you mount the curb or what for warm up round, doesn't mean you will repeat that for actual evaluation.

 

On the contrary, I think it's good to make mistakes during warm up round. You're likely not to commit same mistake during the real test.

 

Ya babe. Youre quite right abt the fatigue part. Was supposed to have an 830am session today but couldnt wake up! Probably been pushing too hard last 1 week. Ive got 1 rev tomorrow 430pm before going for rtt etrials. Maybe i will just spend abt 15-20mins doing the F8 & crank at slow & steady speed just to rediscover the feel & confidence then go for a few rounds of full circuit afterwards.

 

Pre L5 rev & L5 booked for next tues morning. Will chop bike 27,33,36 or 75. Bike 27 was the 1 which I did good F8s in.

 

Just in case you, ahxian90 & other readers think im trying to be too smart or over ambitious when I said I raised the bar for revs, actually I just raised things up a little - F8 = abt 10secs or less, Plank = abt 8secs or more. Ebrake i used 45km/h speed, partly to sharpen technique but also the sound of the engine losing speed during braking is more audible - so I de-clutch when I can hear the early sounds of the engine going to die off. Ive had enough of those so called 'early de-clutching' & stalling problems in the past.

 

Thanks for your encouraging words!

[jbdoggy]

Wow bro, i prob not in a good position to comment,as im still very new lol. But based on wad u described and mr bahtera comment, i do feel that is ur muscle memory has locked in. Reason being u did mention that u spend solely 2 straight rev on plank ebrake itself(90% plank? + a couple of ebrake) when doing plank, u prob had that idea of controlling ur steering, which u have carry over to ur fig8. Idk just my penny of my thot o.o.

 

When i do my rev(usually 2 cir rev back to back save my time and bus fares lol:cheeky:) 1st round i would just go randomly,1 full circuit, den jump to fig 8(after every TRY do ur own evaluation, not smooth?do again;swee enuf? okay go slope/plank) lik maybe 6x, den shortcut thru slope then plank,if i see plank too packed, go back slope and plank and jump back fig8 etc; 2nd round will be do a couple more round of circuit, if sian den jump around do the course. What im saying is that u shuld prob jumble up, and not 100% wack on just that station, u shuld somewad be lik at the end of ur day ur stats is lik e.g. maybe 15x plank,8x fig8, 4x slope 8 ebrake, it shuld be lepak, fun and legs sore lol. Doing full squence circuit also an idea, but bored out after 3 -4 round,T-junction alone will bored u big time lor.

 

Strategy ar, hmm u shuld have alrdy book ur L5(maybe 1 backup aswell) once u pass l4, give ur self lik maybe 1-2 week time frame, then inbetween squeeze in ur CR, for me its lik 3~4 days apart,1 week i would lik go down cdc 3 time, cos i was pretty free that time took alot ns OFF,this is wad i usually planned, tue- 2x CR, thur- 2x CR, fri- 1CR(focus on whole circuit seq aleast 2~3x)+L5. And for backup slot maybe book it within same week, or close enuf (ur muscle memory in-play). then 1cr+backup L5. This has worked for me till my TP. One more thing, u shuld alrdy noe is tat CR cant be cancel, but u can always last min book it, as its usually available.

 

Yo bro! Damn right you are.....90% plank/slalom + 2-3 ebrake kinda thing for rev 4-5. Rev 1-2, 90% F8/crank +1-2 hill start + 1-2 ebrake kinda thing. So they are quite biased sessions. Rev 3 last sat really waste of time due to disastrous old bike 3. Closest thing to riding a kap chye - biting point is very very nearly at full clutch release. Gear box also always jammed. So if want to ride the plank must fully release clutch otherwise not enough forward drive when you need it. To start off with a fully released clutch also can! serious! lol Heng ah! we will all get to use new bikes for tp! lol

 

Ya thanks for sharing your CR experiences. L5 booked for nxt week. Not expecting anything. Just see what happens & take note of the feed back. Havent planned any back up yet. Will have a better idea how to prepare/plan the backup after 1st attempt.

 

So you bought your bike yet? Sp??

 

Aside - Can anyone tell me if there is a procedure to follow after passing by the bumpy course & approaching the slanted double white broken lines before merging with the circuit main road? I normally ride in constant moderate speed in 2nd gear after ebrake. When approaching the broken white lines, I momentarily shut throttle & make a quick check back right. If safe I just continue & accelerate away after passing the lines. Not safe, I stop just before the lines. At my speed theres more than enough braking distance for a smooth stop. But Mr Ronnie Heng said that I always never check for traffic. I cant quite catch his explanations abt why my check is not counted as a check. What else am I missing or do I need to show Im applying some brakes before reaching the line?

[Yauc]

yes. But have to wait nearly 2 months to finally take it.

 

RTT 10 Jan 2015!!

Without RTT, can i proceed till practical 8?

[Yauc]

yep, under there.But advise is that,to take ur RTT concurrent wif ur practs as it will take sometime,btw u will ned to have completed all ur theories, DRT, as well as a internal evaulation, den ur able to book for RTT.

 

Thanks, at l4 now.. Just surprised RTT need to wait that long!

[AhXian90]

Aside - Can anyone tell me if there is a procedure to follow after passing by the bumpy course & approaching the slanted double white broken lines before merging with the circuit main road? I normally ride in constant moderate speed in 2nd gear after ebrake. When approaching the broken white lines, I momentarily shut throttle & make a quick check back right. If safe I just continue & accelerate away after passing the lines. Not safe, I stop just before the lines. At my speed theres more than enough braking distance for a smooth stop. But Mr Ronnie Heng said that I always never check for traffic. I cant quite catch his explanations abt why my check is not counted as a check. What else am I missing or do I need to show Im applying some brakes before reaching the line?

 

hmm ohh ronnie heng ar haha, okie i dun think u did something wrong, but u shuld be checking the mirror while passing bumpy,then instead of quick glance, take a good look(turn ur head more, they really like to emphasize on this). usually for checkback they determine by how much u turn ur head. Btw u shld try to book a backup maybe the following week, cos u re the same as me(took alot rev type)so if u book too far apart all ur rev would be down the drain.

 

sp bike,still considering it,giving myself some options as well arh, some frends opinion is tellin me otherwise, but the urge is there lol, butt itching to ride bike.

[AhXian90]

RTT 10 Jan 2015!!

Without RTT, can i proceed till practical 8?

 

yea dun worry u can go all the way for ur pract, just u will not be able to book any tp date(system will show u the tp date but will not let u book). my rtt was also lik 2mths waiting, but i managed to found a slot that is a mth earlier, try to keep checking the test date whenever u can. rtt usually got some people cancel the slot.

[Yauc]

yea dun worry u can go all the way for ur pract, just u will not be able to book any tp date(system will show u the tp date but will not let u book). my rtt was also lik 2mths waiting, but i managed to found a slot that is a mth earlier, try to keep checking the test date whenever u can. rtt usually got some people cancel the slot.

 

Thanks, for RTT trial, I should book e trial under theory lesson?

[rijac]

Yo bro! Damn right you are.....90% plank/slalom + 2-3 ebrake kinda thing for rev 4-5. Rev 1-2, 90% F8/crank +1-2 hill start + 1-2 ebrake kinda thing. So they are quite biased sessions. Rev 3 last sat really waste of time due to disastrous old bike 3. Closest thing to riding a kap chye - biting point is very very nearly at full clutch release. Gear box also always jammed. So if want to ride the plank must fully release clutch otherwise not enough forward drive when you need it. To start off with a fully released clutch also can! serious! lol Heng ah! we will all get to use new bikes for tp! lol

 

Ya thanks for sharing your CR experiences. L5 booked for nxt week. Not expecting anything. Just see what happens & take note of the feed back. Havent planned any back up yet. Will have a better idea how to prepare/plan the backup after 1st attempt.

 

So you bought your bike yet? Sp??

 

Aside - Can anyone tell me if there is a procedure to follow after passing by the bumpy course & approaching the slanted double white broken lines before merging with the circuit main road? I normally ride in constant moderate speed in 2nd gear after ebrake. When approaching the broken white lines, I momentarily shut throttle & make a quick check back right. If safe I just continue & accelerate away after passing the lines. Not safe, I stop just before the lines. At my speed theres more than enough braking distance for a smooth stop. But Mr Ronnie Heng said that I always never check for traffic. I cant quite catch his explanations abt why my check is not counted as a check. What else am I missing or do I need to show Im applying some brakes before reaching the line?

You must make sure both lanes are clear

[jbdoggy]

Ok rtt cleared this morning.

 

Yesterday im very grateful to Mr Roger Sng. He was walking around when he saw me struggle with F8/crank. He then came over & spent half hour with me & very patiently worked with me until I could finally do some F8s/cranks smoothly. Still not there yet but 4 pt demerits still better then IF.

 

Managed to do 2 full circuit rounds only cos of rain. 1st round, assuming no procedural errors etc wld be 8pt demerits due to F8/crank.

 

2nd round-99.9% IF at the 1st right turn near the blindwall junction. I did the whole battery of checks & started to make the right turn when satisfied all clear, but suddenly caught sight of a 2a biker reaching the right blindwall! Jammed brakes. My bike rear tyre was now just outside the stop line. Most likely the 2a guy exited the ramp when I check back left before moving off.

 

Just to double confirm -Right turn junction, if form up in pairs, 1st right side rider check back left +right blind spot, 1st left side rider chk back right only, correct? chk back right will also cover right blind spot as the head turns back to the front, correct?

 

Feeling very tempted to book 1 more rev this mon actually

 

hmm ohh ronnie heng ar haha, okie i dun think u did something wrong, but u shuld be checking the mirror while passing bumpy,then instead of quick glance, take a good look(turn ur head more, they really like to emphasize on this). usually for checkback they determine by how much u turn ur head. Btw u shld try to book a backup maybe the following week, cos u re the same as me(took alot rev type)so if u book too far apart all ur rev would be down the drain.

 

sp bike,still considering it,giving myself some options as well arh, some frends opinion is tellin me otherwise, but the urge is there lol, butt itching to ride bike.

 

My head turned to the max liao. So probably I will maintain there for longer period. As @rijac says, both lanes must be clear. So Check back right is the best way to actually see both lanes methinks.

 

Ya ive already booked backup for nxt morning. Must repeat early as possible. Experience has shown me if out of practice for a certain period, not only lose smoothness in some areas, but can also result in total loss of abilities in others. I think im the case who needs constant revision. Im a very very jia lat case. Once I complete L8 i will put up my stats for all to see, I doubt if anybody can do worse! lol

[AhXian90]

Just to double confirm -Right turn junction, if form up in pairs, 1st right side rider check back left +right blind spot, 1st left side rider chk back right only, correct? chk back right will also cover right blind spot as the head turns back to the front, correct?

 

Eh, nope for turning right at blind junction either side u re on, u only ned to check back right and move off(becos there is no kerb on ur right side and u re turning right) note : there is only 3 spot u ned to do both side check(fig 8 +crank + left turning after slope(left side slope, if on right side u only check left)) 1 more possible spot is if u stop for traffic after u finished crank course. U will understand better at L6,prepare for long briefing.

 

heh and yeah u gotta make sure both side of the lane is clear after ebrake.

[jbdoggy]

@AhXian90 - Really ah, either side also check back right? Cos for right side rider, the main threat would be vehicle coming from his left side isnt it? Right side rider is closest to central dividing line of the road, so no vehicles will come into him from right rear side. The central dividing line can be seen as like a kerb in that sense what. Right side moving vehicles can see from the front liao. Sorry, im a bit confused now.

 

Double confirm another thing. At an uncontrolled junction, whether form up in single file or pairs, chk left & right side traffic 1st before chk back right + blindspot, correct?

[AhXian90]

@AhXian90 - Really ah, either side also check back right? Cos for right side rider, the main threat would be vehicle coming from his left side isnt it? Right side rider is closest to central dividing line of the road, so no vehicles will come into him from right rear side. The central dividing line can be seen as like a kerb in that sense what. Right side moving vehicles can see from the front liao. Sorry, im a bit confused now.

 

Double confirm another thing. At an uncontrolled junction, whether form up in single file or pairs, chk left & right side traffic 1st before chk back right + blindspot, correct?

 

woah u got me confused as well,altho ur reasoning make sense; lol ,my knowledge on this is very limited ah. Ok,so check-back is essentially a safety check behind for moving off clearance u, e.g in case there is a vehicle or object/people at ur 5 o'clock right when u move off, since singapore is a left-side driving, so generally main threat is the oncoming on ur right side,(meaning left side is a stationary kerb= no immediate hazard)that is y sch default us check back right. U just think about ur slope case, if u go the right side, u re told to check left, cos there is no room for any hazard to be on ur right side. And single white line not equal to a kerb, only chervron markings(learn lesson 6) and oncoming will always be ur main hazard,they can swerve into ur lane mah. rite? I was also very sotong abt this, then slowly figure it out cos i no CLS 3 lisc also.

 

And ur checking traffic ans is yea, tat is how i do it too,my form of habit checking traffic left-right,right-left and check back move off. And to add-on y u only checkback right, cos ur blindspot is on ur right side(bindspot check=safety check for the direction u turning into) so by default u will alrdy be looking at the right side point where u goin to turn, after ur safety check back.

 

I hoped my explaination can be understand lol. U ought to ask instructor about ur doubts. I maybe wrong about all these too :X if so some1 pls correct me.

Edited November 9, 2014 by AhXian90

[jbdoggy]

woah u got me confused as well,altho ur reasoning make sense; lol ,my knowledge on this is very limited ah. Ok,so check-back is essentially a safety check behind for moving off clearance u, e.g in case there is a vehicle or object/people at ur 5 o'clock right when u move off, since singapore is a left-side driving, so generally main threat is the oncoming on ur right side,(meaning left side is a stationary kerb= no immediate hazard)that is y sch default us check back right. U just think about ur slope case, if u go the right side, u re told to check left, cos there is no room for any hazard to be on ur right side. And single white line not equal to a kerb, only chervron markings(learn lesson 6) and oncoming will always be ur main hazard,they can swerve into ur lane mah. rite? I was also very sotong abt this, then slowly figure it out cos i no CLS 3 lisc also.

 

And ur checking traffic ans is yea, tat is how i do it too,my form of habit checking traffic left-right,right-left and check back move off. And to add-on y u only checkback right, cos ur blindspot is on ur right side(bindspot check=safety check for the direction u turning into) so by default u will alrdy be looking at the right side point where u goin to turn, after ur safety check back.

 

I hoped my explaination can be understand lol. U ought to ask instructor about ur doubts. I maybe wrong about all these too :X if so some1 pls correct me.

 

I went for a rev today & asked instructor abt this right side rider thing we were discussing & he said chk back right because central divider is not counted as kerb. When I asked him about the vehicle on the rider's left side being a potential threat/hazard, he just said not to bother abt it.

 

L5 tomorrow.... Wish me luck.

[jbdoggy]

You may be surprised it may not be your weak station which cause you to fail. Hahaha.

 

Tests are pretty much 60% luck, 40% skills, 10% mood. LOL.

 

Mica's friendly warning came true today! Hahaha... Picked a bike & had a decent Mon & pre L5 revision. Chop that same bike for L5 & when L5 commenced, it refused to start! So forced to change bike.

 

IF for plank -went off just before the very end. 26 demerits - out of which 18 were very very soft points. Not skill or timing related at all, jus forgot to do something or other eg change signal to kerb for hill start. So even if I made it for plank, will still fail overall.

 

Just double confirm a few things after thinkg thro instructor's comments:

 

1) 4 pts for wide turning when exiting F8. From what i know from L3, too near the right edge or out of the stop line edge is wide. I finished in the middle betn centre & right edge of stop line. When I finished about there before during L3 or revs, no instructor ever said anything abt it being wide. If really need to be abt dead centre of the stop line then I just have to brake more at exit to be able to steer more sharply.

 

2)2+2 pts for wobble when stopping - I dont think I really wobbled as such. But does bike 'diving' cos of a bit too much front brake while stopping also constitute as wobble? If yes, more or only rear brake next time for these short distance braking.

 

3)2 pts for incorrect posture for moving/off stopping - What does incorrect posture constitute? He never touched on this point.

Edited November 11, 2014 by jbdoggy

[AhXian90]

Hey man,ah lady luck not on ur side tis time, same as my L5. But its alrite since its ur first anyway, now that u have been thru L5 u will noe ur mistakes and where improve and wad not. Most of time is usually the minor mistakes that kills u on circuit, on ur free time try and visualise the whole course, up to the tiny details, engrain into u, so u'll be better prepared nxt L5.

 

1)Hmm that wide turning, is a hit-or-miss thing, its a dreadful part of fig 8. Wide-turn isnt exactly determine by where u stopped, it by how ur bike maneuvers, if u did a banana turn, u'll be wide-turn no doubt, u will knw urself. The method the instructor taught me was to,look at stop line, pull clutch as ur bike cross the yellow line.

 

2)wobble stopping/moving - one of the usual suspects for demerits, it has to do with how u control the brakes, and ur eyeline, when u about to stop/move. do IM braking, go easy on the front brakes when ur short braking dist, how early u shift down ur gear will factor in too.

 

3)Incorrect posture- lol one of my tp mistake, it was said during the briefing by mr bahtera, that is lik how re u sitted when u ride, too far back? tights open up; v-shape, feets pointing outwards?(shuld be pointing inward btw) I think this mistake is just ur sub-concious riding posture lor, how are u gonna control tis during test, while trying to perform idk lol.

 

(Dun brake to much/hard at fig exit,might lose momentum. I oncehad a bad fall that time while practicing, either i had brake too hard or early, the bike crash bar hit the kerb and bike crash bar fall onto my shin.i think i posted sometiem back before during ur L3)

Edited November 11, 2014 by AhXian90

[rijac]

If you place your fingers on the clutch or brakes as 'standby' when not actually pressing it is called incorrect posture as well.

[lesterq]

Tips for prac 1? Heard need to go up to gear 5 to pass

[jbdoggy]

Hey man,ah lady luck not on ur side tis time, same as my L5. But its alrite since its ur first anyway, now that u have been thru L5 u will noe ur mistakes and where improve and wad not. Most of time is usually the minor mistakes that kills u on circuit, on ur free time try and visualise the whole course, up to the tiny details, engrain into u, so u'll be better prepared nxt L5.

 

1)Hmm that wide turning, is a hit-or-miss thing, its a dreadful part of fig 8. Wide-turn isnt exactly determine by where u stopped, it by how ur bike maneuvers, if u did a banana turn, u'll be wide-turn no doubt, u will knw urself. The method the instructor taught me was to,look at stop line, pull clutch as ur bike cross the yellow line.

 

2)wobble stopping/moving - one of the usual suspects for demerits, it has to do with how u control the brakes, and ur eyeline, when u about to stop/move. do IM braking, go easy on the front brakes when ur short braking dist, how early u shift down ur gear will factor in too.

 

3)Incorrect posture- lol one of my tp mistake, it was said during the briefing by mr bahtera, that is lik how re u sitted when u ride, too far back? tights open up; v-shape, feets pointing outwards?(shuld be pointing inward btw) I think this mistake is just ur sub-concious riding posture lor, how are u gonna control tis during test, while trying to perform idk lol.

 

(Dun brake to much/hard at fig exit,might lose momentum. I oncehad a bad fall that time while practicing, either i had brake too hard or early, the bike crash bar hit the kerb and bike crash bar fall onto my shin.i think i posted sometiem back before during ur L3)

 

Ya bro, did quite a bit of mental simulation & referring to @rijac's L5 notes at the same time. Did not miss a single blindspot EXCEPT 1 at slalom exit. Usually cos of cars parked along the ebrake lane, we filter out right so chk right blind spot before doing so. But this time the whole lane free, no need to filter right, so i just went ahead w/o checking - kena 4+2 pts! Those pts most sore man! lol.

 

This wide turning at F8 exit, instructor said cos I did not stop centre. Ya must straight away turn the head & look at the line as you reach the exit. But need to slow down also to loosen up the steering for such a sharp turn. A bit more rear brake after the front wheel cross the yellow line.

 

Ive been trying to cultivate kiap the fuel tank with my knees while riding at all times since L1 but always failed. Made a very concious effort to do so for plank. Hey! it does help plank in some ways!.

 

@rijac- ya this 'standby' clutch issue is another prevalent issue for my ebrake. If its not the eyes looking down or early de-clutching, its 'standby' clutch. Worst part is all this clutching issues are all auto response, Im not even aware im doing them. The eyeline part can be easily corrected, but at a loss as to how to cure this de-clutching issue. The 'standby' clutch issue apparently started when I was trying to delay de-clutching. During L5, for ebrake I had 2 pts for early de-clutching -incorrect technique. Maybe try gripping left handle bar harder when braking next time.

Edited November 12, 2014 by jbdoggy

[jbdoggy]

Tips for prac 1? Heard need to go up to gear 5 to pass

 

5th gear part involves 2 stages. 1st is go round the circuit & shift up to gear 5 & then stop in 1st gear. 2nd is go round the circuit & shift up to 5th gear, slow down & shift down to 3rd gear.

 

They will tell you to get up to 4th gear when you reach the plank area there & 5th gear when you pass the dropped cone. Ive never ever managed 4th gear at the plank area cos of too many beginner drivers. Im always either in 1st or 2nd gear there. So I 'cheat' a bit. Traffic normally clears up once you approach the dropped cone. So I just do quick shifting - accelerate a bit & quickly shift up, repeat up to 5th gear. So maybe youre abt 30Km/h or so in 5th gear?? - just barely at 5th gear min speed & then you brake & quickly down shift to 1st as you approach the last biker in queue. For this stage instructors pay more attention to your left foot kicking down the gear shifter many times thats all - not how fast youre riding.

 

For 2nd stage you have a longer distance to travel after the dropped cone. So you can pick up a bit more speed but be mindful to keep the distance to the the rider in front. You might end up too close when he slows down. Better is just continue at your 5th gear min speed & maintain the gap & start slowing down to abt 20km/h after you pass the cones & kick down to 3rd gear (2 times) as you pass the instructor.

[lesterq]

Only managed to get up to 3rd gear in the small Circuit haha instructor say I cannot do braking from 3rd gear smoothly yet.

[jbdoggy]

:cry: 6 demerits but IF because of plank. And to think i cleared the plank every time during todays rev & warm up round. Next attempt this Sat, but no rev slot unfortunately. Booked rev for tomorrow afternoon.

 

@lesterq - 3rd gear stopping/braking- After you make the last bend & abt halfway approaching where the instructor is standing, close your throttle & start applying both front & rear brakes GENTLY. Immediately after pressing brakes, you press clutch & kick down gear shifter 4-5 times to reach 1st gear. By that time you will be quite near the instructor, press more a bit more rear brake & left foot down for complete stop. Thats it.

 

Needs a bit of time to get used to all these operations. I only got it at L1 2nd attempt.

 

They will gather all you L1 people together & everyone will do the above exercise. Those who perform it satisfactorily will be told to take a break until everyone else clears the exercise. And then all will go for 5th gear exercise.

[lesterq]

Booked a prac one tmr. And one slot came up today and I just went for it.

 

Damn glad I did. Just passed my prac 1 thanks for the tips.