[cdc] 2b

[tsleo85]

Yah I realized my mistake is somehow I scare to bank in to the right..posture wrong....

My mind telling me to bank right when I look right but my body keep staying upright..

Was planning to chiong many lessons but I think I will stop and rest a while .. no improvement...

 

Dont be discouraged! I think good to let your instructors pillion you for one round. I used to be afraid to bank as well during my first 2 lessons for fig 8. So the ssdc instructor noticed and pillion me for one round for both crank and fig 8 to show how stable the bike will be even when he banks. That gave me the confidence to try to bank more. In tt lesson, my timing managed to improve from 13+secs to 10+secs.

[FTW.]

I am from SSDC still in the course. One thing I find that it helps is to watch some videos too, get abit of idea on how the instructors do it. Youtube got some BBDC, SSDC videos, it did prep me in a way.

[rijac]

Yah I realized my mistake is somehow I scare to bank in to the right..posture wrong....

My mind telling me to bank right when I look right but my body keep staying upright..

Was planning to chiong many lessons but I think I will stop and rest a while .. no improvement...

Don't think of it as banking. Push down on the handle bar in the direction you want to go. The bike will lean by itself

[hushpuppy]

Just attempted Lesson 2 first time, abit confused with blind spot checking

 

Lane change from right to left, what do u check?

 

When you moving and turning left at a junction, what do u check?

 

Gurus kindly advise, thanks.

[jbdoggy]

Just attempted Lesson 2 first time, abit confused with blind spot checking

 

Lane change from right to left, what do u check?

 

When you moving and turning left at a junction, what do u check?

 

Gurus kindly advise, thanks.

 

Yes, 1st time L2 is a bit disorientating due to information overload. But when you get the hang of it its actually quite easy.

 

Blindspot checks for all turns at junctions, bends & lane changes. Check in the direction youre moving eg change lane to the right = right blindspot. Left turn = left blindspot.

 

lane change procedure = mirror, blindspot, change lane when clear.

 

Turning left at a junction from stationary posn, chk back right + left blindspot.

 

Turning left at a junction while on the move (green lights for eg) left blindspot only.

 

1 instructor highlighted to me for blindspot check, your view is abt 45deg behind your shoulder (135deg from front), during 1 of my road lessons. 90 deg shoulder chk, it seems is not quite good enough. Chk back left/right goes further back than that.

 

Make sure youre clear & firm abt blindspot chks. Forgetting or missing 1 is 4 demerit pts during tests & assessments.

[hushpuppy]

Yes, 1st time L2 is a bit disorientating due to information overload. But when you get the hang of it its actually quite easy.

 

Blindspot checks for all turns at junctions, bends & lane changes. Check in the direction youre moving eg change lane to the right = right blindspot. Left turn = left blindspot.

 

lane change procedure = mirror, blindspot, change lane when clear.

 

Turning left at a junction from stationary posn, chk back right + left blindspot.

 

Turning left at a junction while on the move (green lights for eg) left blindspot only.

 

1 instructor highlighted to me for blindspot check, your view is abt 45deg behind your shoulder (135deg from front), during 1 of my road lessons. 90 deg shoulder chk, it seems is not quite good enough. Chk back left/right goes further back than that.

 

Make sure youre clear & firm abt blindspot chks. Forgetting or missing 1 is 4 demerit pts during tests & assessments.

 

Thanks jbdoggy bro, help me check if this is correct

1. stationary going straight - check back right

2. stationary turning left - check back right then left BS

3. stationary turning right - check back left then right BS

4. lane change left to right - check right BS

5. turning at right bend - check right BS

only if i'm stationary, i will need to both check left and right blindspot

Edited April 16, 2015 by hushpuppy
make it clearer

[jbdoggy]

Thanks jbdoggy bro, help me check if this is correct

1. stationary going straight - check right BS

2. stationary turning left - check right BS then left BS

3. stationary turning right - check left BS then right BS

4. lane change left to right - check right BS

5. turning at right bend - check right BS

only if i'm stationary, i will need to both check left and right blindspot

 

1)chk bk right only.

2)chk bk right+left bs

3)chk bk right+right bs

4)chk right mirror then right bs

5)correct.

 

not sure what your last sentence is referring to.

[hushpuppy]

many thanks, hope jbdoggy tips are useful to fellow bros/sis also.

[Ricorica]

Just remember if you are moving off from stationary, always check back right and then blind spot check the direction you will be turning to, if going straight, blind spot check not required.

If changing lane, blind spot check the direction you will be changing to.

For bends, check blind spot roughly at the last directional arrow in the direction of the bend before negotiating it.

 

Try to memorize the directional arrows within the circuit route at each stopping point so you can form up correctly. Eg. Stop Lines and Traffic Junctions.

- For Left only arrow, first vehicle form up left, second from up right

- For Right only arrow, first vehicle form up right and second form up left

- Multi directional arrows, "if turning left, only form up 1 row on the left of the lane","if turning right, only form up 1 row on the right of the lane", "if going straight, form up 2 rows starting from the left or cover up empty spaces if there are already bikes stopping"

Practice more till it becomes second nature as it will be very useful in your journey. Although i can write them all out now, i would still forget some checks while riding, especially during tense moments.

 

But there's 1 thing i'm not very sure, at the zebra crossing, if we do stop, is it in 1 or 2 rows? I presume it is 2 rows starting from left...

[jbdoggy]

But there's 1 thing i'm not very sure, at the zebra crossing, if we do stop, is it in 1 or 2 rows? I presume it is 2 rows starting from left...

 

Yes. that is correct. But for zebra crossings at filter lanes = 1 row. More abt that during L6.

[rijac]

The only time you check back both sides while stationary is when turning left from standstill. E.g when moving off for figure 8

[hushpuppy]

Does anyone know the time slot for lesson 3 on Sundays?

 

I've passed L2 but have a lesson tom which I can't cancel. So thinking to try my luck to gatecrash.

Edited April 18, 2015 by hushpuppy
make clear

[rijac]

Does anyone know the time slot for lesson 3 on Sundays?

 

I've passed L2 but have a lesson tom which I can't cancel. So thinking to try my luck to gatecrash.

There's a reason they give you a lesson book. Check the back for the schedule

[jbdoggy]

Does anyone know the time slot for lesson 3 on Sundays?

 

I've passed L2 but have a lesson tom which I can't cancel. So thinking to try my luck to gatecrash.

 

Am I understanding you correctly?:- Youve booked 2 L2s on consecutive days. Now that youve passed on the 1st booking, youre unable to cancel the 2nd booking cos its less then 48 hrs away.

 

If so, wouldnt the L3 schedule be out on the system for your viewing?

[FireGunz]

Am I understanding you correctly?:- Youve booked 2 L2s on consecutive days. Now that youve passed on the 1st booking, youre unable to cancel the 2nd booking cos its less then 48 hrs away.

 

If so, wouldnt the L3 schedule be out on the system for your viewing?

Sorry... just a curiosity about at CDC they allow to book 2 time slot for the same lesson 2?

 

Not 1 lesson booking at the time for 1 time slot? so happen when pass the lesson 2 & unable to cancel it (less the 48hr) mean he/she had to retake the same lesson again (even it had pass)

 

I'm just abit curious about as I know some driving centre doesn't work that way. In that case, CDC learning Class 2B might be faster then other place seem that can make double (same lesson at different time slot) booking for a lesson then other driving centre need to be do the booking for 1 lesson for 1 time slot at the time.

 

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[jbdoggy]

Firegunz,

 

Yes, multiple lesson bookings are SOP for many, meself included, in anticipation of failures! So if we happen to pass earlier then expected, we just cancel the other bookings. So we try to book on alternate days to keep the 48 hr time frame.

 

But if lets say, all that is available during a particular week are 2 consecutive days, you book both & pass the 1st booking; 2 choices: dont attend 2nd booking or repeat the lesson. Its of no consequence to repeat a lesson after passing cos your booklet & system already shows that youve passed.

 

So best to just repeat the lesson, cos youve alredy paid for it & tk it as additional practice.

 

But this practice of making multiple bookings by so many learners at 1 time are also the reason why its so difficult to get slots, a very typical complaint abt cdc. Hence the practice of camping outside the website in anticipation of people cancelling their slots, so earlier slots can be booked when the opportunity presents itself.

Edited April 18, 2015 by jbdoggy

[hushpuppy]

Yup, the next available time for me was a week away so I gambled booking 2 consecutive day, likely I will just go use it as a practice since cannot be cancelled.

[hushpuppy]

There's a reason they give you a lesson book. Check the back for the schedule

 

Bro, not every session has lesson 1 to 8...

[rijac]

Bro, not every session has lesson 1 to 8...

I thought you were looking for the time slots. My mistake.

[hushpuppy]

Any advice lesson 3 require how many times to clear?

[rijac]

Any advice lesson 3 require how many times to clear?

I passed in one lesson. Some took 2 some took 4. Another question with no answer lol. On average I think 2 lessons.

[hushpuppy]

I passed in one lesson. Some took 2 some took 4. Another question with no answer lol. On average I think 2 lessons.

 

Wow, 1lesson, u must be damn zai

Edited April 19, 2015 by hushpuppy
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[rijac]

Wow, 1lesson, u must be damn zai

I passed every lesson in 1 try other than 4, 5 and 8.

[Ricorica]

Not to be a wet bucket, but lesson 3 i think very unlikely you will be able to pass in 1 attempt if you do not have prior riding experience.

 

The slope is about clutch control and biting point. You have to stop on the slope, release your front break to engage the throttle and control your clutch to get your biting point. While doing so, remember to always keep your right leg engaged on the break pedal, don't release it, this is very important(Actually now i made it a point to never release my rear break till I'm ready to move off even on normal roads, i use it kinda like the hand break in cars). Once you feel you have found your biting point, look straight ahead and slowly release your foot break. If your bike starts to move forward, you are fine, if your bike starts to roll back, quickly engage the break pedal to stop it.

 

Figure 8 and crank is a little trickier. It is about looking in the direction you want to travel and banking in. For someone with no previous experience, it might be harrowing. Just take it at your own pace first, instructors will teach you about eye-line, where to look and which part of the course while maintaining constant throttle, i think a write out here will not be of much use till you experience it yourself. Keep an eye-line in the direction you want to travel and your body will kinda bank on its own. Don't use the front break, use rear break instead to slow down if you have to. For figure 8, i will usually change up to gear 2 after entering the course so that i have sufficient speed, some prefer to do it before entering in case the change to neutral they can rectify it early.

 

For crank, now I'll just let the bike cruise through the course without throttle after changing to gear 2, if it gets too slow, I'll just throttle and release. Eye line looking at the corners, instructors will inform you where to look at which part of the course. If not, ask him, as they usually pay more attention to figure 8.

 

And last but not least, watch more Valentino Rossi video on Youtube... No, I'm kidding, don't go start banking like him.

 

If you've got time, bro Rijac has jotted down pretty good information in the previous pages. Do check them out.

[hushpuppy]

Not to be a wet bucket, but lesson 3 i think very unlikely you will be able to pass in 1 attempt if you do not have prior riding experience.

 

If you've got time, bro Rijac has jotted down pretty good information in the previous pages. Do check them out.

 

Thanks for the advice, already booked 3 slots to prepare for it, may the force be with me!