SYM HD2 200i

[guerila]

Anyone riding this bike? Need some info like price and reviews bcoz might be buying one.

[pgohctoon]

You can check it out at Mah Pte Ltd. I read many user reviews on the internet , most were from US. Seems like all the comments are very positive.

[pgohctoon]

Got this from Mah Pte Ltd.

Hope it is helpful.

 

Price List

 

SYM - HD200 (DELUXE)

HD2 200i Machine Price 5,000.00$ (HP)5000 ~ 4600(CASH)

Road Tax 32.00$

Registration Fee 140.00$

Transfer Fee 11.00$

No. Plate 15.00$

COE

ERP ( IU ) 156.00$

GST 323.75$

* NTUC need to check from Insurance company.*

1st Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

20 & Below -$= Refer NTUC 5,677.75$

21 yrs 975.00$ = AXA 6,652.75$

22 - 25 yrs 975.00$ = AXA 6,652.75$

26 - 27 yrs 700.00$ = AXA 6,377.75$

28 - 30 yrs 580.00$ = AXA 6,257.75$

31yrs above 485.00$ = AXA 6,162.75$

2nd Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

21 - 25 yrs 770.00$ = AXA 6,447.75$

26 - 27 yrs 520.00$ = AXA 6,197.75$

28 - 30 yrs 480.00$ = AXA 6,157.75$

31yrs above 330.00$ = AXA 6,007.75$

3rd Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

21 - 25 yrs 515.00$ = AXA 6,192.75$

26 - 27 yrs 340.00$ = AXA 6,017.75$

28 - 30 yrs 270.00$ = AXA 5,947.75$

31yrs above 200.00$ = AXA 5,877.75$

[gargantua]

Finally they brought this in..

[pgohctoon]

Yes, I order and collecting this Friday. The US model has different head light and indicator lights set up due to US regulations. The disk brake unit is not red in color. Wheel spokes are painted black.

I like the fact that the radiator has an electric fan.

The 16" wheel size (smoother ride on uneven surfaces) and it's power to weight ratio (15.5 to 140 kg) helped made my decision.

They have black, white and grey (1 unit left on Monday) colors.

[guerila]

Yes, I order and collecting this Friday. The US model has different head light and indicator lights set up due to US regulations. The disk brake unit is not red in color. Wheel spokes are painted black.

I like the fact that the radiator has an electric fan.

The 16" wheel size (smoother ride on uneven surfaces) and it's power to weight ratio (15.5 to 140 kg) helped made my decision.

They have black, white and grey (1 unit left on Monday) colors.

 

So how much did you pay for everything?enjoy yr new ride on Friday ,remember to post pics and reviews about the bike.i will need to trade in my Honda wave.

[pgohctoon]

So how much did you pay for everything?enjoy yr new ride on Friday ,remember to post pics and reviews about the bike.i will need to trade in my Honda wave.

 

Paid $8k with Givi E450 box, 1 helmet and rain suit.

[gargantua]

Got this from Mah Pte Ltd.

Hope it is helpful.

 

Price List

 

SYM - HD200 (DELUXE)

HD2 200i Machine Price 5,000.00$ (HP)5000 ~ 4600(CASH)

Road Tax 32.00$

Registration Fee 140.00$

Transfer Fee 11.00$

No. Plate 15.00$

COE

ERP ( IU ) 156.00$

GST 323.75$

* NTUC need to check from Insurance company.*

1st Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

20 & Below -$= Refer NTUC 5,677.75$

21 yrs 975.00$ = AXA 6,652.75$

22 - 25 yrs 975.00$ = AXA 6,652.75$

26 - 27 yrs 700.00$ = AXA 6,377.75$

28 - 30 yrs 580.00$ = AXA 6,257.75$

31yrs above 485.00$ = AXA 6,162.75$

2nd Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

21 - 25 yrs 770.00$ = AXA 6,447.75$

26 - 27 yrs 520.00$ = AXA 6,197.75$

28 - 30 yrs 480.00$ = AXA 6,157.75$

31yrs above 330.00$ = AXA 6,007.75$

3rd Party Insurance

Below 20 LESS Than 2YR RIDING EXP,Please Refer

21 - 25 yrs 515.00$ = AXA 6,192.75$

26 - 27 yrs 340.00$ = AXA 6,017.75$

28 - 30 yrs 270.00$ = AXA 5,947.75$

31yrs above 200.00$ = AXA 5,877.75$

 

Thanks for the information. When to sit on it at Mah.. well thought out and comfortable bike. 16inch wheel. Machine price $4500 only.

Edited May 17, 2013 by gargantua

[guerila]

Yes, I order and collecting this Friday. The US model has different head light and indicator lights set up due to US regulations. The disk brake unit is not red in color. Wheel spokes are painted black.

I like the fact that the radiator has an electric fan.

The 16" wheel size (smoother ride on uneven surfaces) and it's power to weight ratio (15.5 to 140 kg) helped made my decision.

They have black, white and grey (1 unit left on Monday) colors.

 

Hi bro hows the ride so far? Any pixs to share.

[pgohctoon]

Sorry, didn't have time to write.

Collect the HD2 on Friday at about 3:30 p.m.

Headed for the ESSO station at Macpherson Rd as the fuel gauge was pointing to E.

The pump auto stopped at about 6 liters.

I remembered the specs said the tank takes about 8 liter.

Tried pumping more but it auto stopped on every attempt.

Then I saw fuel overflowing slightly.

Thought it strange that the tank had a smaller capacity from information specs.

(only later at home, I recalled that usually when fuel gauge points to "E", it means it will have about 2 liters as reserve)

From Macpherson, I headed to AYE, SLE, Woodlands , Sungei Kadut, Kranji, Neo Tew, Lim Chu Kang,

PIE, Pioneer North, Ahmad Ibrahim, AYE, ECP and back home at Tanah Merah station.

There were trucks aplenty on Sungei Kadut and Kranji and road surface had sand and debri here and there. So had to be on watch out when navigating through traffic and corners.

The scooter handling gave me confidence.

Kranji Way and Neo Tew was nice as there were greenery on both sides (very country side) and road was 2 lane and winding.

So had to watch out for sand, pebbles and debris on corners.

Cornering was an easy lean and the large size wheels offered better grip on leans (road surface was dry so it helps with leans).

On Lim Chu Kang, the straight and triple lane stretch really tempts one to go above 80 although engine not run in yet.

However, the grave sites on the western side reminds one to ride safely and enjoy the ride for longer.

Evening traffic had already built up on Ahmad Ibrahim all the way back along AYE, ECP till Xi Lin.

Lane splitting was done in confidence and there was enough engine power to accelerate thru gaps between vehicles when the gap was safe enough to pass.

Changing from Vespa LX150 to the HD2, it is a whole new experience of stability, better smoothening out of road unevenness and more confident lane splitting due to better stability of the HD2.

The large wheels and tires plus the front and rear disc brakes, really help one to ride confidently without the wobbly feeling which is accentuated by the small tires of the Vespa LX150 over small eneveness of road surfaces.

I also liked very much the clicking buzzer of the signal lights when it's turned on.

Many a times on the LX150 ( no buzzer), I forget to turn the signal off after making my turns or change of lane.

The 4 shock abosrbers (the rear was set at factory to be softest) help make the ride smoother as well. Less back ache due to less transmission of impact from road surface to wheels.

Only complaint was from my son who said the passenger cushion was too thin. It was hard on his bum.

[guerila]

Sorry, didn't have time to write.

Collect the HD2 on Friday at about 3:30 p.m.

Headed for the ESSO station at Macpherson Rd as the fuel gauge was pointing to E.

The pump auto stopped at about 6 liters.

I remembered the specs said the tank takes about 8 liter.

Tried pumping more but it auto stopped on every attempt.

Then I saw fuel overflowing slightly.

Thought it strange that the tank had a smaller capacity from information specs.

(only later at home, I recalled that usually when fuel gauge points to "E", it means it will have about 2 liters as reserve)

From Macpherson, I headed to AYE, SLE, Woodlands , Sungei Kadut, Kranji, Neo Tew, Lim Chu Kang,

PIE, Pioneer North, Ahmad Ibrahim, AYE, ECP and back home at Tanah Merah station.

There were trucks aplenty on Sungei Kadut and Kranji and road surface had sand and debri here and there. So had to be on watch out when navigating through traffic and corners.

The scooter handling gave me confidence.

Kranji Way and Neo Tew was nice as there were greenery on both sides (very country side) and road was 2 lane and winding.

So had to watch out for sand, pebbles and debris on corners.

Cornering was an easy lean and the large size wheels offered better grip on leans (road surface was dry so it helps with leans).

On Lim Chu Kang, the straight and triple lane stretch really tempts one to go above 80 although engine not run in yet.

However, the grave sites on the western side reminds one to ride safely and enjoy the ride for longer.

Evening traffic had already built up on Ahmad Ibrahim all the way back along AYE, ECP till Xi Lin.

Lane splitting was done in confidence and there was enough engine power to accelerate thru gaps between vehicles when the gap was safe enough to pass.

Changing from Vespa LX150 to the HD2, it is a whole new experience of stability, better smoothening out of road unevenness and more confident lane splitting due to better stability of the HD2.

The large wheels and tires plus the front and rear disc brakes, really help one to ride confidently without the wobbly feeling which is accentuated by the small tires of the Vespa LX150 over small eneveness of road surfaces.

I also liked very much the clicking buzzer of the signal lights when it's turned on.

Many a times on the LX150 ( no buzzer), I forget to turn the signal off after making my turns or change of lane.

The 4 shock abosrbers (the rear was set at factory to be softest) help make the ride smoother as well. Less back ache due to less transmission of impact from road surface to wheels.

Only complaint was from my son who said the passenger cushion was too thin. It was hard on his bum.

 

Congrats on yr new ride, wah ! you really bring the bike for island wide touring.

Hope to join you in July.Anyway what color is yr ride.

[pgohctoon]

This morning, after returning home from gym, I set the HD2 on its side stand.

Yesterday, went to fill up the fuel and caused spillage again from overflow.

Need to stop at 6 liters or less when fuel gauge is pointing at "E" before filling up.

After shower and was getting to my HD2 to go to work, smelt petrol.

Saw that there was petrol on the tires.

Apparently there is an overflow outlet near the top of the inlet to the fuel tank.

Yesterday, rode only a short 6 km after visit to Esso, and fuel tank was still pretty full.

Must remember not to put HD2 on side stand after pumping full tank.

 

Compare to LX150 ie 3V, the take off from standstill is more gradually. Similarly for engine braking.

The LX 150 will bolt off from standstill. Similarly for engine braking.

It's both a bit abrupt for my liking and especially when you have a pillion, you will get helmets knocking.

 

The LX is really nippy in between cars especially at junctions where traffic has stopped or jammed up.

It's small tires helps in the maneuvering.

One will need a bit more space for the HD2 due to larger wheels and slightly longer wheel base (100 mm longer).

 

The wing mirrors are like Batman's ears if you turn the tips up (since it's black it does have that look).

I turn mine up permanently to give more space when moving between vehicles.

[pgohctoon]

The HD2 side stand will cut off the engine when it's push down.

Hopefully, new owners will remember that because the engine will not start when it's still down and they may be left wondering what's causing it when everything seems to be in working order.

[pgohctoon]

I chose white as it show some contrast to the other parts which was dark grey

[pgohctoon]

Congrats on yr new ride, wah ! you really bring the bike for island wide touring.

Hope to join you in July.Anyway what color is yr ride.

 

Your HD2 will only arrive in July? The sales person who attended to me, named Zai, told me next shipment is 200 units. Didn't clarify whether it's all HD2.

[pgohctoon]

HD2 has 2 LCDs. One shows time and the other is the Odometer.

When you start the engine, the clock will show the battery voltage for about 10 secs. Reading should be above 10V.

There is a light on-off switch. 3 positions - off, parking lights, headlights.

When parking lights on, the LEDs inside the front signal lights will be on.

 

When the light switch is off, once the engine is started, it will rev at higher rate than when light is switched on.

I think it will be a good habit to switch off the lights prior to turning the engine off and to switch on the lights after starting engine.

My take is to have the headlights on even in daylight for safety and visibility.

The HD2 has HID lights. Very bright. A good spread even on low beam.

[guerila]

No lah, not even yet order frm Mah motor my bike.I am still recuperating at home due to an acccident.

Hopefully by end of june or early july can fully recover.I fractured my hips.

[pgohctoon]

No lah, not even yet order frm Mah motor my bike.I am still recuperating at home due to an acccident.

Hopefully by end of june or early july can fully recover.I fractured my hips.

Oh dear. Hope you recover quick. I broke my left collar bone in 2009 after my road bike (as in racing cycle) skidded.

Had to go for implant of metal plate with 5 screws to hold it in position. It's still within me till the day I die.

Had to take super high dosage of calcium to help the bones heal quickly.

Still continued with the calcium intake for old age bone brittleness prevention.

Took many painful months to recover and had to persevere a lot with the strengthening exercises and stretching. It's really tough going but had to ensure otherwise its goings to be too long a recovery.

Even today I still do gym work for toning the muscles.

I guess you have to do stretching of the hips joint when its safe to do so otherwise you might develop a stiff hip later.

[guerila]

Oh dear. Hope you recover quick. I broke my left collar bone in 2009 after my road bike (as in racing cycle) skidded.

Had to go for implant of metal plate with 5 screws to hold it in position. It's still within me till the day I die.

Had to take super high dosage of calcium to help the bones heal quickly.

Still continued with the calcium intake for old age bone brittleness prevention.

Took many painful months to recover and had to persevere a lot with the strengthening exercises and stretching. It's really tough going but had to ensure otherwise its goings to be too long a recovery.

Even today I still do gym work for toning the muscles.

I guess you have to do stretching of the hips joint when its safe to do so otherwise you might develop a stiff hip later.

 

We are in the same boat bro, I have metal plate wt screws too, now doin theraphy .hopefully we can meet up soon after I am fit to walk again soon.who knows we can go gym together wt our new ride , ha, ha.see you soon bro.Ride safe ya.

Update me wt anything wt regards to yr ride,

[pgohctoon]

Just had my 1st oil change at about 400km. Handbook said 300 km. Mah said can stretch it to 1000km.

I still think it is better to follow manufacturer's guidelines as I do not know how long the oil has been in the engine since it left the factory.

Paid $16.05 for gear oil and engine oil. Labour FOC.

Been taking long route to office whenever possible.

Don't seem to feel sore in lower back (old bones) anymore unlike when I rode the LX150.

Probably, the 4 shocks absorbers compare to the stiffer Vespa's single rear shock and it's proprietary front shocks as well as the larger wheels help absorb more impact from road undulations to the lower back.

I also feel the riding position on the HD2 suits my height ( 1.72m).

[pgohctoon]

Took the long route to work after morning workout at the gym - Keppel Rd, Alexandra, AYE, Clementi Ave 6, PIE, BKE, SLE, TPE to Tampines Central. Traffic was real bad along SLE , TPE, all lanes packed with vehicles.

The HD2 managed the lane split confidently. It's slim width ( 712mm) and it's stability really helped with going through the gaps between vehicles in the jam.

There was enough power to quickly pass vehicles whenever there was a safe gap.

The front disc brakes seems to have a stronger stopping power than the rear although both are same diameter of 220mm.

Arrived at work place after a 50 min ride.

[pgohctoon]

Have done 600+ km on the scooter

Thought I can start monitoring fuel consumption.

Was amazed that 1st km per liter was 40.8. However, this was achieved with about 90% travel on expressway.

Will continue monitoring.

Edited August 25, 2013 by pgohctoon

[pgohctoon]

Have done 600+ km on the scooter 11 days after getting it from Mah.

Thought I can start monitoring fuel consumption.

Was amazed that 1st km per liter was 40.8. However, this was achieved with about 90% travel on expressway.

Will continue monitoring.

 

Speed was maintained around 75 kph.

Perhaps after run in (1000 km), may not achieve this km/l as I probably move at a higher speed.

However, I think during morning and evening peak hours, realistically, it is not possible to hit a dramatically higher kph.

[guerila]

Just had my 1st oil change at about 400km. Handbook said 300 km. Mah said can stretch it to 1000km.

I still think it is better to follow manufacturer's guidelines as I do not know how long the oil has been in the engine since it left the factory.

Paid $16.05 for gear oil and engine oil. Labour FOC.

Been taking long route to office whenever possible.

Don't seem to feel sore in lower back (old bones) anymore unlike when I rode the LX150.

Probably, the 4 shocks absorbers compare to the stiffer Vespa's single rear shock and it's proprietary front shocks as well as the larger wheels help absorb more impact from road undulations to the lower back.

I also feel the riding position on the HD2 suits my height ( 1.72m).

 

Took the long route to work after morning workout at the gym - Keppel Rd, Alexandra, AYE, Clementi Ave 6, PIE, BKE, SLE, TPE to Tampines Central. Traffic was real bad along SLE , TPE, all lanes packed with vehicles.

The HD2 managed the lane split confidently. It's slim width ( 712mm) and it's stability really helped with going through the gaps between vehicles in the jam.

There was enough power to quickly pass vehicles whenever there was a safe gap.

The front disc brakes seems to have a stronger stopping power than the rear although both are same diameter of 220mm.

Arrived at work place after a 50 min ride.

 

Speed was maintained around 75 kph.

Perhaps after run in (1000 km), may not achieve this km/l as I probably move at a higher speed.

However, I think during morning and evening peak hours, realistically, it is not possible to hit a dramatically higher kph.

 

I think after hitting 1000k mileage and changing to fully synthetic eng oil, might get an overall good fuel mileage.

So far any encounter with other HD's on the road?

[gargantua]

thanks for your experience on the HD200. any updates on this new bike?