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Hi, Any 2A, 2B riders planning / going on ride to South East Asia countries ? Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam ? Cheers

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hi all, what is the usual waiting time for class 2a TP test ? Thanks

Hi , Anyone has contact for shipping company that can do shipping of motorcycle over to NZ, Japan or South Korea ? Thank you and hope to hear from you soon. Best Regards

we should form a new "old" riders group - maybe 40 & above... that will be interesting : )

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possible.. only if you pay for a guide and the related cost of riding, driving in China.. : )

Hi mates.. Riding up to Laos & China borders ? when do you intend to do it ? I be interested to come along - i be driving instead of riding.. Class 2b TP test only in Jan 2013.. Cheers

I guess the concerns is more on the age then the gender... if i have a young sibling into motorcycle, i be very concerns like all brothers, parents out there...

Nowadays there quite a number of women doing class 2b...maybe u can seek out some advise from them here...they will be in a better position to advise u..

I was at ssdc today.. A lady was on class 2 bike.. My respect... Never say never..

Hi I'm thinking of getting a Daystar and attached a URAL / Chang Jiang type of sidecar onto it.. http://www.ural.com/ http://www.chang-jiang.com/bmw/welcome.html Any advise on this idea ? I know it will be a drag on the speed, which i don't really mind..

any class 2b bike that come close to royal enfield look ?

Hi all, For anyone who is interested in motorcycling in China.. Hope you will find this thread useful. http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/forum.php Cheers

Thats very true also, the only way to lower the cost is to get a few more participants..however, that will make the trip more complicated ... Think about it, if you are interested - we can really turn it into a reality..... I'm always very interested to drive up to shangri la... I did a posting on mycarforum some time back..with details of the driving plan.. Plus map, infos on the road from boten up to shangri la.. http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2666824 It's a once a lifetime experience...it's not easy for me to find someone who is interested to drive, ride up to shangri la...I think it's also equally difficult for you to come across another person with similar interest as yours... : ) Think about it mates : )

anytime mates.. you are planning to ride all the way up there ? if so, do you mind me coming along ? i can come in my SUV...we can share the cost of the guide.. the guide can go in my car and my car can carry extra luggage n spare parts for you and your motorbike... : ) i love to go motorbike, but i dont think im experienced enough for that at the moment.. but driving - shouldnt be a problem..

Sori for the double posting...using iPad... Not very friendly with some functions when posting ..... The above was the reply I got when I wrote to this company that provide "guide" , documentation works if you have the interest to drive, ride into china... The cost for bike might be different , but guess it should be around these regions also...

Hi all, Here's some costing i recved for the driving part in China, Yunnan. As mentioned on previous posting.. A carnet is not required for driving in China. However, the driving group are required to engaged a local guide that will do up all the necessary documentations and be travelling together with the group throughout the trip. I wrote to a chinese company.. Here's some of the infos i recved with regards to the proposed intineary : Day 1 : 勐憨口岸 - 勐腊县 - 勐仑镇 - 勐养镇 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs Day 2 : 普洱市 - 宁洱县 - 玉溪市 - 昆明市 - 5 hrs Day 3 昆明市 - 大理市 - 4 hrs Day 4 大理市 - 沙坪村 - 松桂镇 - 丽江市 - 3.5 hrs Day 5 丽江市 Day 6 丽江市 - 虎跳峡镇 - é¦™æ ¼é‡Œæ‹‰åŽ¿ - 3 hrs Day 7 é¦™æ ¼é‡Œæ‹‰åŽ¿ Day 8 é¦™æ ¼é‡Œæ‹‰åŽ¿ Day 9 é¦™æ ¼é‡Œæ‹‰åŽ¿ - 虎跳峡镇 - 剑川县 - 洱源县 - 大理市 - 7 hrs Day 10 大理市 - 临沧市 - 6 hrs 30 mins Day 11 临沧市 - 宁洱县 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs Day 12 普洱市 - 勐憨 - 6 hrs 10 mins Day 13 勐憨口岸 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tour price for 4 persons with 2 vehicles: USD4232,- per group Tour price for 10 persons with 5 vehicles: USD6492,- per group Included Full set of vehicle import documents/paper works in China for self drive Arrival check in at Chinese customs in Mohan and exit customs handling to Laos Chinese temporary drivers’ license and temporary vehicle plate/tag Vehicle inspection fees after entry China Vehicle liability insurance fees and the third-party insurance fees in China Drivers’ physical checks at the port Informed English speaking guide as the liaison to be at your service throughout the tour Wages to the national liaison includes his hotel accommodation and daily meal supply Chinese travel accidental injury insurance for both travelers Excluded Meal service in China China visa fees Hotel accommodation and overnight camping tents when applicable Fares of China toll road, bridge and tunnel access charges when applicable Tips to your escorted guide Sightseeing tickets and admission fees for tours, excursions and trips Personal expenses and persons issues such as drinking water, phone call, shopping etc. International travel insurance, first-aid charge and charges of emergency evacuation; car fuel/ gasoline in China and Car fix and repair fees Support vehicle with driver and related costs, such as meals, accommodations and road fees, etc. All the service not mentioned in the inclusions and itinerary From : Chengdu Panorama Tour Co., Ltd.

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I will be in chengdu this coming October...will like to check up some motorcycle shops. To check the feasibility of renting , buying a motorbike there....that might be a easy way to ride in china..

Hi mates.. Same .. You will still need a local guide to "accompany" you on the whole trip...it's a real put off to adventurers who wanted to drive / ride into china... Few years back, there was this singapore couple who drive their hyundai matrix around the world...they drove intomalaysia and then shipped their car into India, bypassing china...guess the cost was really prohibitive ... http://www.relax.com.sg/relax/features/385936/Driving_into_the_unknown.html

The last time when i planned the drive up, the route is as followed : Singapore - Chiang Khong 2500km Chiang Khong - Luang Namtha 264km Luang Namtha to Mohan - 58km Mohan to Shangri La - 1400km Shangri La to Mohan - 1400km Mohan to Vientiane - 650km Vientiane - Bangkok - 650km Bangkok - SG - 1800km Total will probably be around 9,000km There was a group of BMW rider rode to Shangri La last year.. What they do is they ride up to Haytai, send the bike on rail to ChiangMai, Ride into Laos and then into Shangri La.. Wayback, they send their bike from Li Jiang to KunMing.. and then ride back from Kunming into Laos..if i didnt recalled wrongly..

Hi mates.. I know which route you will be going.. I had planned to drive up to Shangri La - but failed to materialised.. It will take at least 3 - 4 weeks for the whole trip... Yes.. A guide is compulsory... The last round when i check for 2 vehicles.. i was quoted around USD5,000... the guide will meet you at Laos/China borders of Boten/Mohan... He will do up all the documentations for you.. and he will accompany you along the trip.. you have to pay for his lodging and foods... I been to Shangri La twice... A beautiful place..always wanted to drive up there.. but failed to find enough travellers to come along.. One alternative is actually to rent / buy a motorcycle from Kun Ming , ride up to Da Li, Li Jiang and up to Shangri La... Riding own bike is nice..I'm still doing my class2b, hopefully can get my license by end of this year.. May i know what bike are you riding ? Any recommendation for 2b bikes that are suitable for touring ? Cheers

im doing my class 2b at SSDC.. im now at lesson 6 (total 7 lessons).. im 40 this year. i will say im a slow learner.. i did my lesson 1 for 4 times, lesson 2 for 3 times (i think so..haha)... now lesson 6 is on test routes - i can say im riding pretty confidently on the road... when i look back, i just keep wondering how come i need so many repeat lessons on such simple things like shifting of gears etc etc.. haha.. but it doesnt really matter actually, the more lessons you go, the better your foundations will be.. i rather go for more repeat on my lessons and hopefully pass the TP test on one go than cleared various stage quickly and failed TP test numerous time.. : )

good thread.. very informative.. im 3 months into class 2b.. been spending times looking at different bikes but not onto protective gears.. thats definately not the right things to do... glad to come across this thread. reading thru the posting did make a mindset changed. thanks to all contributors.. : )