DIY HID - All About High Intensity Discharge

[Guest cheeko]

electronic ballast type

 

Electronic ballast are extremely sensitive...... i duno wat will happen if voltage is unstable...... Maybe can ask Paiseh to be guinue pig 1st..... let him go install & try out 1st

[Tyrian]

juz a question..

 

HID legal for annual inspection anot?

[jonse]

whose k6?

[Guest quizesilver]

Originally posted by limbat@May 24 2006, 05:13 PM

Wat kind of bulb does yr bike use ? I may offer some of my stock as am now planning to bring in the 5th generation electronic ballast type.

i am using H4

[paiseh]

Originally posted by cheeko@May 25 2006, 02:34 AM

electronic ballast type

 

Electronic ballast are extremely sensitive...... i duno wat will happen if voltage is unstable...... Maybe can ask Paiseh to be guinue pig 1st..... let him go install & try out 1st

hm.. let me try ah? see limbat wanna gif me try for free anot

[paiseh]

Tyrian: HID is not legal for inspection. However, u can haf the option to off the HID and just on ur halogen bulb for inspection and for spore road. on the HID only when in msia or when ya touring.

 

jonse: dunno u know him anot, his nick is fast machine32.

 

quizesilver: ur bike has everything done up except HID

[Guest quizesilver]

PAISEH!!!!

idoit... hehe tempt me... haha

 

but the price... put me off abit.

i still have a few thing nt done yet...

my suspension. damper...(nt sure)

[dominator]

fitting such light by DIY is fire hazardous and creating unnecessary glare to other road user.

 

What is the difference in point by not using it in SG but

"use it for touring"..."riding in malaysa...thailand...offroad"

 

you still create glare to road user.

[zod]

Originally posted by dominator+May 25 2006, 11:58 PM-->

QUOTE (dominator @ May 25 2006, 11:58 PM)

fitting such light by DIY is fire hazardous and creating unnecessary glare to other road user. [/b]   In what specific way is DIY fitting a fire hazard? Contary to common misbelief, fitting HID onto bikes manufactured in the recent years will not create glare to other road users; as long as the HID is installed properly and the beam angle adjusted accordingly.

[limbat]

Originally posted by quizesilver@May 25 2006, 03:11 AM

i am using H4

 

I will PM U the price later - have to sort out some inventory issue 1st.

[limbat]

Originally posted by dominator@May 25 2006, 11:58 PM

fitting such light by DIY is fire hazardous and creating unnecessary glare to other road user.

 

What is the difference in point by not using it in SG but

"use it for touring"..."riding in malaysa...thailand...offroad"

 

you still create glare to road user.

 

Haizzzzzzzzzz this thread is 4 ppl who need HIDs system - not 4 ppl like U who may not need them. There is no prefect lighting system in the aftermarket, but to be fair to those who DIYed their sets - till now I hv not heard of a set catching fire ley .....

 

As to the "glare" issue - the whole purpose is to get other road user to notice U - this the HID system is at it's best................laaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Guest quizesilver]

thks

[Guest quizesilver]

btw what is the differ between ur current gen (wat version?) and the 1 u going to bring in... the electronic means?

 

how u define version? base on current market standard or ??

[limbat]

Originally posted by jonse@May 24 2006, 08:49 PM

if fix on K6 1000 will it b bright?

 

Yeap ..... sure at 4000 lumen 35watt ............... sure bright de........

[limbat]

Originally posted by cheeko@May 25 2006, 02:34 AM

electronic ballast type

 

Electronic ballast are extremely sensitive...... i duno wat will happen if voltage is unstable...... Maybe can ask Paiseh to be guinue pig 1st..... let him go install & try out 1st

 

U R wrong Mr. Cheeko - Electronic ballast are not extremely sensitive...... they are veri "PRECISE" Equipment being " Electronic" . If they are tuned to a working range then they work - so if they are not tuned to the bike working range then they may not work. The new range of Electronic ballast are 12v or 24v application. I have to confirm if they are within the Bike "Working range".

 

[limbat]

Originally posted by paiseh@May 25 2006, 03:25 AM

electronic ballast type

hm.. let me try ah? see limbat wanna gif me try for free anot

 

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by paiseh@May 25 2006, 03:25 AM

electronic ballast type

hm.. let me try ah? see limbat wanna gif me try for free anot

by the way, when wana go for a happy outing to kulai for nasi lemak man Seems like u talk abt it for very long liao

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by limbat@May 26 2006, 02:27 AM

electronic ballast type

 

U R wrong Mr. Cheeko - Electronic ballast are not extremely sensitive...... they are veri "PRECISE" Equipment being " Electronic" . If they are tuned to a working range then they work - so if they are not tuned to the bike working range then they may not work. The new range of Electronic ballast are 12v or 24v application. I have to confirm if they are within the Bike "Working range".

 

ok, let me noe when ur stuff are in, i will come down take a look. Till right now there's no problem with reliabilty of FATBIKER set of HIDs, but its not bright even for me due to my poor stock reflectors. Have to find a solution to it.

[zod]

Originally posted by cheeko@May 26 2006, 09:39 AM

by the way, when wana go for a happy outing to kulai for nasi lemak man Seems like u talk abt it for very long liao

[paiseh]

no time.. busy on project till mid june

 

zod: ur england zhai.

[Demon]

Originally posted by zod@May 26 2006, 01:18 AM

In what specific way is DIY fitting a fire hazard?

Contary to common misbelief, fitting HID onto bikes manufactured in the recent years will not create glare to other road users; as long as the HID is installed properly and the beam angle adjusted accordingly.

 

This is because Singapore roads are adequately lighted.

 

Long stretches on NSH in Malaysia have no street lamps at all and the roads are only illuminated by your headlights. Stock headlights do not shine far. As a safety guide, you will want to be able to see 12s ahead of you. At 110km/h, this translates to a distance of 367m. This means, you will want to be able to see 367m ahead while at 110km/h. Stock headlights already have problems shining anything furthur than 50m.

 

The danger lies in not being able to see what is on the road ahead of you before you have time to react. This is also known as outrunning your headlights.

because after-market HID uses the stock reflector, glare cannot be totally eliminated. For square lamps, glare can be mininise, but it can be really irritating for round lamps. You dip it low, it minimise glare, but to little forward light, you want sufficient forward light, you irritate the whole world.

 

Beam Pattern is determined by the lens & reflector, or projection system for HID, a good driving lamp (such as Hella FF series) using halogen bulb can throw lights 400m ahead.

 

HID has it's downside. I was driving in Cameron Highlands in Nov 05, at night in heavy fog, with HID, I saw nothing because the fog reflected all the lights back, quite similar to seeing a white wall. I had to depend on my fog lights (HID Off). Fortunately I was proceeding down hill, using the edge of the hill as a guide and slowly made it to Ringlet town.

 

 

 

 

 

[zod]

Originally posted by Demon@May 26 2006, 12:17 PM

HID has it's downside. I was driving in Cameron Highlands in Nov 05, at night in heavy fog, with HID, I saw nothing because the fog reflected all the lights back, quite similar to seeing a white wall. I had to depend on my fog lights (HID Off). Fortunately I was proceeding down hill, using the edge of the hill as a guide and slowly made it to Ringlet town.

It is another common misconception that HID is a fog light system.

 

HID is not a replacement for fog lights.

It is a replacement for halogen lights.

 

If one wants HID to penetrate fog better, he/she can consider getting a lower Kelvin rated HID bulb.

[jonse]

Originally posted by zod@May 26 2006, 01:32 PM

It is another common misconception that HID is a fog light system.

 

HID is not a replacement for fog lights.

It is a replacement for halogen lights.

 

If one wants HID to penetrate fog better, he/she can consider getting a lower Kelvin rated HID bulb.

how does lower Kelvin rated HID bulb cost? nber include inside meh?

[zod]

Originally posted by jonse@May 26 2006, 03:06 PM

how does lower Kelvin rated HID bulb cost? nber include inside meh?

When you buy HID system, you have to choose the colour temperature.

Choose a lower one to better penetrate fog.

 

http://www.venturelighting.com/TechCenter/Lamps/Color%20Temp%20Chart.jpg

[hmm_]

zod damn power...super knowledgeable...surpassed paiseh liao...