SBF Kymco Downtown 125/200/300/350i Cafe 2013

[parotae]

Just tried, mine cut off at 2500rpm@22km/h

With pillion totally lag before 60km/h.

Say when i full throttle, the acceleration from anywhere before 60km/h the power won't come until pass 60km/h.

Today when the traffic light turn green, I open full throttle and the engine lag 2 sec before picking up speed off. cars beside me was passing me so dangerous. Happened only once. When in the front I always take off faster to avoid joker (car)accelerating/racing together with you.

[parotae]

I was trying the "free wheeling" thing earlier. My results is always so strange as oppose to everyone.....

 

Anyway, the bike does hold its low speed at 2500 rpm (for mine). The cutoff speed for my bike is around 15km to 18km/h.

 

Only thing is that at 2500 rpm, the bike feels like it requires a lot of effort to move.

At that rpm, it is just holding the movement.

It seriously starts moving properly around 3500 rpm.

 

Any idea whether the idling rpm can be lowered further to say 1300rpm? Must check with Motorsport the next round. Just an idea I'm toying around with.

 

My SW's idling used to be at 1000rpm, which couple of SW riders find it really low, but I was totally fine with it. Most would have it at 1300rpm.

 

The bike is really smooth when it heats up. Vibration is down to a minimum, sometimes none. Either that, the Moty's EO is doing a good job as I feel different with the bike now.

 

Won't say it is the best ride I ever had, but feels much better now that I don't feel like setting the bike on fire.....lol

 

At the higher speed, the bike's rpm doesn't seem to drop as much as before. It still does, but seems more stable.

 

My assessment so far.

 

What! You actually wanted to BBQ your scoot! Lol!

My vibration is coming back a bit stronger now.

Today did a lot of below 60km/h WOT (Wide Open Throttle) due to heavy traffic and squeezing.

Very frustrated as Cock up my estimation.

I cannot aim and shoot like Accelerate! Go, Accelerate! Go.

Its more like Accelerate! Slowly Go uh oh. Accelerate! Slowly Go uh oh between cars

Above 60km/h ok and the rpm is @ peak torque 6500rpm.

Before 60km/h WOT the rpm ~6000rpm.

 

Must make a video heh heh!

Who got helmet cam

Edited November 26, 2011 by parotae

[topgearalwaysrock]

What! You actually wanted to BBQ your scoot! Lol!

My vibration is coming back a bit stronger now.

Today did a lot of below 60km/h WOT (Wide Open Throttle) due to heavy traffic and squeezing.

Very frustrated as Cock up my estimation.

I cannot aim and shoot like Accelerate! Go, Accelerate! Go.

Its more like Accelerate! Slowly Go uh oh. Accelerate! Slowly Go uh oh between cars

Above 60km/h ok and the rpm is @ peak torque 6500rpm.

Before 60km/h WOT the rpm ~6000rpm.

 

Must make a video heh heh!

Who got helmet cam

 

 

CVT is like that. It doesn't give increasing exponential power, but rather linear power.

 

Just gotta get use to it lorh.

 

My road speed at "free-wheeling" is 20kph, at 3000rpm.

 

I throttle at 4000rpm, the DT125i is still stationary. Haha!

[juanpauk]

Yesterday I went for a trip to Oxford with my wife at the back. I was paying attention to the rev. Counter and when I needed to go full throtle it will not go further than 8,000 I will say it does 7,600 tops. I think I recorded 80miles/hr but with a bit of downhill, The bike feels stable and relaxed around 70miles/120km, anything more and you can tell the bike is not build for it. And 70 is the limit here in the UK.

 

Also I noticed that going beyond 70 miles the bike was taking longer than before, can it be the fact that the new rollers are 1.5grams less heavy each?

 

what is the max revs that you guys can get out of your bike at top speed?

[paithorn]

CVT is like that. It doesn't give increasing exponential power, but rather linear power.

 

Just gotta get use to it lorh.

 

Very correct, that's what I had been trying to say

[paithorn]

Yesterday I went for a trip to Oxford with my wife at the back. I was paying attention to the rev. Counter and when I needed to go full throtle it will not go further than 8,000 I will say it does 7,600 tops. I think I recorded 80miles/hr but with a bit of downhill, The bike feels stable and relaxed around 70miles/120km, anything more and you can tell the bike is not build for it. And 70 is the limit here in the UK.

 

Also I noticed that going beyond 70 miles the bike was taking longer than before, can it be the fact that the new rollers are 1.5grams less heavy each?

 

what is the max revs that you guys can get out of your bike at top speed?

 

mine is 8250rpm

[paithorn]

Just pumped 12.39L of Shell 95 (with a little overflow). 1st time broke 400km barrier...not bad at all....

 

[tankspeed]

Must make a video heh heh!

Who got helmet cam

 

Then you can

BTW, the other day I saw a guy on an R1 with a GoPro and a mic. Maybe vlogging also.

 

CVT is like that. It doesn't give increasing exponential power, but rather linear power.

 

Just gotta get use to it lorh.

 

 

Yeah you certainly have to change your riding style. I know a lot of people who actually almost full throttle their CVT. At least for cars I know you can actually back off the throttle a little and continue at decent speed below 2k rpms with CVT.

[parotae]

Then you can

BTW, the other day I saw a guy on an R1 with a GoPro and a mic. Maybe vlogging also.

 

 

 

Yeah you certainly have to change your riding style. I know a lot of people who actually almost full throttle their CVT. At least for cars I know you can actually back off the throttle a little and continue at decent speed below 2k rpms with CVT.

 

Yup, seems like vlogging is the way to go:thumb:

 

Hmmm then maybe I will change my ridding style.

First time experience this thing. Not that the scoot has no power.

My small scoot also down behave like this. I wonder if Silverwing behaves like this?

Skipper 4 stroke 150cc/ Gilera runner 172cc / Gilera Nexus 300 also don't behave like this. So have to change my style of riding for this scooter.

[parotae]

Yesterday I went for a trip to Oxford with my wife at the back. I was paying attention to the rev. Counter and when I needed to go full throtle it will not go further than 8,000 I will say it does 7,600 tops. I think I recorded 80miles/hr but with a bit of downhill, The bike feels stable and relaxed around 70miles/120km, anything more and you can tell the bike is not build for it. And 70 is the limit here in the UK.

 

Also I noticed that going beyond 70 miles the bike was taking longer than before, can it be the fact that the new rollers are 1.5grams less heavy each?

 

what is the max revs that you guys can get out of your bike at top speed?

 

I rode to 140km/h when new just once but forgot to check the rpm. Just tried a few days ago but only can go up to 120km/h (plus it takes sometime from 110km/h) tried to go faster but took too long, so gave up the idea puls our max speed limit here is 90km/h.

 

The earlier batch of Downtown are rated at 29.5hp-32hp@8000rpm-8500rpm

I remembered the latest batch has only 27hp@ around 7500rpm ( I couldn't find it on line yet, have to search for the latest batch spec)

 

It may or may not be related to the 14g slider roller you are using. As some user review the 14g slider roller with no drop in top speed but they are using the LEA7 variator. Ours is the LGE5 so it may be a bit different with the sliding roller.

Edited November 27, 2011 by parotae

[topgearalwaysrock]

I rode to 140km/h just once but forgot to check the rpm. Just tried a few days ago but only can go up to 120km/h (plus it takes sometime from 110km/h) tried to go faster but took too long, so gave up the idea puls our max speed limit here is 90km/h.

 

The older batch of Downtown are rated at 29.5hp/32hp@8500rpm/8000rpm

I remembered the latest batch has only 27hp@ around 7500rpm ( I couldn't find it on line yet, have to search for the latest batch spec)

 

 

Same. Am doing 120kph easily on the DT125i when the road allows it.

 

I'll probably pop by LAB to change tyres though. The Maxis ones are getting intolerable.

[parotae]

Hi Juan,

The spec from Taiwan website states 28ps@7750rpm

From what I heard, our batch of DT3 here is of this spec.

Lower power, lower rpm due to Euro 3 emission.

[parotae]

Just pumped 12.39L of Shell 95 (with a little overflow). 1st time broke 400km barrier...not bad at all....

 

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:thumb:

[synman]

Yesterday I went for a trip to Oxford with my wife at the back. I was paying attention to the rev. Counter and when I needed to go full throtle it will not go further than 8,000 I will say it does 7,600 tops. I think I recorded 80miles/hr but with a bit of downhill, The bike feels stable and relaxed around 70miles/120km, anything more and you can tell the bike is not build for it. And 70 is the limit here in the UK.

 

Also I noticed that going beyond 70 miles the bike was taking longer than before, can it be the fact that the new rollers are 1.5grams less heavy each?

 

what is the max revs that you guys can get out of your bike at top speed?

 

So far, I have hit 130km/h. Rpm is like what you what you have said. Just below 8000.

[synman]

Yup, seems like vlogging is the way to go:thumb:

 

Hmmm then maybe I will change my ridding style.

First time experience this thing. Not that the scoot has no power.

My small scoot also down behave like this. I wonder if Silverwing behaves like this?

Skipper 4 stroke 150cc/ Gilera runner 172cc / Gilera Nexus 300 also don't behave like this. So have to change my style of riding for this scooter.

 

Not really, at least for me it doesn't.....

 

Actually I realize that my DT300 doesn't have the "turbo effect" anymore. Does yours still have the "turbo effect"?

[parotae]

Come to think of it as i got more familiar with DT the turbo effect which i describe in earlier posting is actually the lag before 60km/h.

 

If I WOT say at 40km/h the engine will rev weakly(to 6000rpm) until 60km/h and the power will come suddenly and rev to peak rpm @6500 and higher as speed increases.

[topgearalwaysrock]

Is it ok if the exhaust pipe scrapes the painting on the wall?

 

I scraped a little ytd. Haha.

[parotae]

Ok as in? Spoil the exhaust? Spoil the wall? Ha ha.

Yes it's ok asumming that it's the exhaust cover. Paintings on the wall? Some art gallery?

[topgearalwaysrock]

Ok as in? Spoil the exhaust? Spoil the wall? Ha ha.

Yes it's ok asumming that it's the exhaust cover. Paintings on the wall? Some art gallery?

 

 

Nah. Yellow painting on car park wall -> Oil Pastels.

 

Got stuck in a tight parking lot. DT getting too big for parking already.

[parotae]

Yes, it's big. Take it as a practice lor. Next time you change to bigger bike will have no problems

The exhaust can spray back next time or change another color. Can change to carbon graphite look type also. But wait scratch again ha ha. MotorSport (Citimac ) have stock for most of the carbon look parts from front mudguard to exhaust cover.

[topgearalwaysrock]

Yes, it's big. Take it as a practice lor. Next time you change to bigger bike will have no problems

The exhaust can spray back next time or change another color. Can change to carbon graphite look type also. But wait scratch again ha ha. MotorSport (Citimac ) have stock for most of the carbon look parts from front mudguard to exhaust cover.

 

 

 

Haha. Yeah. Those sticker types.

 

But I'll leave it in stock lah. Next time when I sell, let the 2nd owner do the modifications.

 

No point modding the DT125i as well. If I mod, it'll be for the bigger bikes which I'll ride for longer periods.

[topgearalwaysrock]

Anyways, based on Bridgestone's Singapore website, and looking through their product range for scooter tyres, it seems that the front has to be B03 Pro, and rear B02 Pro.

 

Haha.

 

The current tyres have too little treads already. That's why on wet roads, the grip is simply not there. Gotta get one with much more treads. Haha.

[parotae]

No point modding. It'll worsen the fantastically good fuel consumption, besides the modding part that sees the most benefit is weight reduction. If you can make the scoot lighter, the power automatically improves alittle. Too heavy to mod, best Mod is exchange for a 400cc engine. Problems solve, ha ha.

[parotae]

Does anyone knows why Japan like to produce 250cc when their licence can ride up to 400cc for the class 2A licence? Especially the 250cc more popular than 400.

[parotae]

Does anyone knows why Japan like to produce 250cc when their licence can ride up to 400cc for the class 2A licence? Especially the 250cc more popular than 400.

 

I got people telling me, don't buy 250cc very hard to sell and no demand. In Japan is like can buy 400 but ride 250cc.

 

Paiseh, I click edit post becomes quoting my own question