Toa Payoh club

[Thomaswongkk]

LOL so I can post everywhere and say TPY bikers are the most 'on' bunch. Attendance 100% not enough, that was like 10000% attendance.

 

Website? I don't have any atm unless you want to read my reallllllly old tech article of which there's only one. Can add on facebook if you want.

 

bro, not just TPY hor... whampoa rider oso very onz hor.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Question: you have a low rpm/max torque with sprocket changed to maximize low end pick up. How does it fair on the expressway way then...i know i'll be able to pick up fast but does it take longer to climb up to 80-90km/h. I usually ride ard that speed to be safe.

Question: I have had squeaky rear brakes for months now since changing to new ones, any idea how to remove the squeak. I want to be able to diy my brake caliper and wash but don't know how.

 

I tuned my engine for maximum low and mid range torque, so with the highway sprockets my pickup is vastly improved since I don't run out of revs nor do I need to change gear. The single banger just pulls and pulls and before I knew it I was overtaking Phantoms on the PIE uphill like nobody's business. Torque-biased tuning means my engine is very happy to do work uphill or hauling heavy cargo like me (American sized kitten :3). I do my top speed runs uphill, I don't like over-revving.

 

Riding in low revs forever like this also means one other benefit - I can race away in Devil's Bend and Lim Chu Kang time attacks using the torque for hauling ass though tight switchbacks and hairpins (since torque = immediate acceleration, no need to hunt for gears or RPM) and at the end of it all I got a fuel economy number of 47km/l. At full torque all the way doing touge with a very quick and well handled Hyosung Comet!

 

This number may be "impossible" to most, but that's what success is about. Setting out to do the impossible. The Phantom engine does not have variable valve timing, it's a 2 valve SOHC. It is not efficient at all at high revs. So make it a proper classic single banger and reap the benefits

[DivineCreations]

Okay, my daelim was built as a DOHC where Rev are preferred. But with Higher revs come higher higher fuel consumption and so far my bike has been only giving me a consistent 31-33km/l that sucks big time when know your phantom is saving you 47km/l !!!

 

The phantom is pretty easy to tune whereas compared to mine, firstly, we would have to take off the entire fairing that comes as one piece, secondly it runs by Fuel injection and a built in ECU that controls the spray of the FI, thirdly i don't think anyone in my whole bike thread has done any tuning for the bike at all...

 

My class 2 is next year feb, if all goes well i will want to rid of this bike and get a class 2 bike instead.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

You are right - the only way a smaller CC Hyosung Comet can keep up with me last night is because its engine is designed to run high revs and that automatically means higher than average fuel consumption.

 

Sadly the only way to tune an EFI is to do it by software and that can be costly. I'm not sure if its worthwhile to see if a Daelim ECU can be hooked up to a Power Commander or something like that.

 

I of course play cheat on the Phantom by going opposite to what everyone else does - drop the revs up the torque make good use of high comp and the mass and stroke of a single bigger piston. Performance mods not just make things much more fun, they can increase riding comfort as well!

[DivineCreations]

bro, not just TPY hor... whampoa rider oso very onz hor.

paiseh paiseh lol:cheeky:

 

You are right - the only way a smaller CC Hyosung Comet can keep up with me last night is because its engine is designed to run high revs and that automatically means higher than average fuel consumption.

 

Sadly the only way to tune an EFI is to do it by software and that can be costly. I'm not sure if its worthwhile to see if a Daelim ECU can be hooked up to a Power Commander or something like that.

 

I of course play cheat on the Phantom by going opposite to what everyone else does - drop the revs up the torque make good use of high comp and the mass and stroke of a single bigger piston. Performance mods not just make things much more fun, they can increase riding comfort as well!

Wah kaylan you change your nick! btw are you going to stick to phantom all the way?

 

SBF Cameron highland trip, I signed up already, any company from TPY thread?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Lol bike also must change name. Doesn't act like Phantom so I name it super 2 lol!

 

This bike probably can last me for 5-10 years. Definitely a money saver, time saver and head turner. Besides from the way I ride and customise my bikes there would be totally no resale value in the near future, since it'll look like something out of Mad Max. Might as well be a marriage for life LOL.

 

Cameron - nah, bored of M'sia so I even ditched the passport. Will play Need for Speed if I want to go 'touring' lol

[DivineCreations]

Lol bike also must change name. Doesn't act like Phantom so I name it super 2 lol!

 

This bike probably can last me for 5-10 years. Definitely a money saver, time saver and head turner. Besides from the way I ride and customise my bikes there would be totally no resale value in the near future, since it'll look like something out of Mad Max. Might as well be a marriage for life LOL.

 

Cameron - nah, bored of M'sia so I even ditched the passport. Will play Need for Speed if I want to go 'touring' lol

I really admire your spirit to keep the bike for so long, i wouldn't be able to keep for so long..especially one with a fairing, i shouldn't have committed myself so heavily into this bike after i got my 2b.

 

go touring la, enjoy the mou tans! and scenary

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Its strange how I pick my bikes - wanted a Phantom since 2003, because I sat on it and felt very at home. But Dad said "young rider must have power! Y125z!!!"

 

So that's the first bike I got after I got rid of my 125Z in March (because everything koyak already). I realised I never really took care of the Yamaha because it's not "my bike". Very good bike! But I didn't choose it. No emotional connection.

 

Why Phantom? "Open" design, easy to customise. Can learn DIY tuning.

 

I was pleasantly surprised when I got forced to do some emergency maneuvers on the highway thanks to some Jaguar jamming his brakes while in the middle of lane changing. This big dinosaur can dance!

 

No horsepower (silly short stock gearing is for city riding) but good torque, easier to generate max acceleration than Y125Z, which like all 2 strokes, are sitting ducks if we can't hit the 'supercharged' optimal revs at 6-7K RPM.

 

There's a trick to making a Phantom fly off at the traffic light - launch the bike at 1000RPM and let the heavy piston do the rest! Totally fun and unexpected.

 

Guess it's the fascination with the little details, and the ability to run flat out without risk of killing myself is why I like the humble old machines. Drill holes here and there, turn one screw, suddenly become more powerful :3

 

Can show me R1s, Blackbirds, etc and I'm like meh. Not my kind of bike. I like AK47s - simple, reliable, functional and pack a punch ... and I got my Phantom from more or less scrap condition. Old lady deserves a second and better life

Edited September 7, 2010 by Pandora's Kitten :3

[sparkz83]

I really admire your spirit to keep the bike for so long, i wouldn't be able to keep for so long..especially one with a fairing, i shouldn't have committed myself so heavily into this bike after i got my 2b.

 

go touring la, enjoy the mou tans! and scenary

 

y fairing bike can't keep for long ??? u regret buying this bike ???

[sparkz83]

good nitez eveyone.....

[Thomaswongkk]

nitez.. bro.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Good morning TPY - home of the very onz bikers

[DivineCreations]

y fairing bike can't keep for long ??? u regret buying this bike ???

The insurance very chor....when i first got my bike 2nd party was $1.3K just insurance alone. 1st party was $1.8k can buy a honda SP already.

 

Actually i never intended to buy this bike lol I'm more for the naked kind Like your SP naked MUAHAHAAHA

 

Good morning TPY - home of the very onz bikers

GUTEN MORGAN!

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Actually i never intended to buy this bike lol I'm more for the naked kind Like your SP naked MUAHAHAAHA

 

Wa lao, X rated sia

 

Street fighter conversion KRR is actually one of my favourites! Pity I can't practically own one (I'll destroy the bike in no time lol)

 

Last weekend Thomas got the fairing's back already. NSR back in decent secretarial blouse and skirt.

LOL.

 

Btw, this coming Sunday got Need for Speed outings in the morning (Newton), afternoon (Changi) and night (Tuas).

 

Come clear some carbon if free (nabil and I are co-hosting), for a stress free working week

 

Lunch provided some more!

[DivineCreations]

Wa lao, X rated sia

 

Street fighter conversion KRR is actually one of my favourites! Pity I can't practically own one (I'll destroy the bike in no time lol)

 

Last weekend Thomas got the fairing's back already. NSR back in decent secretarial blouse and skirt.

LOL.

 

Btw, this coming Sunday got Need for Speed outings in the morning (Newton), afternoon (Changi) and night (Tuas).

 

Come clear some carbon if free (nabil and I are co-hosting), for a stress free working week

 

Lunch provided some more!

WAHAha congrats ah thomas...

 

Kaylan got sbf link to this outing? so i can see the details.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Bro we are just next door, here is nabil's sunday morning ride:

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/298871-Sunday-Rides

 

and mine - with nabil as caterer (lunch provided, no joke)

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/299945-Midnight-Club/page2

 

Whole day clear carbon session :3 The convoy from TPY Lor 5 Esso starts at 11.30am.

[Thomaswongkk]

wah lau... say my bike naked until like that. now i put back my fairing liao hor. different feel now, wind cannot stand me now. if that day i never pillon my gf, i think can ride little bit more faster than that day. but no matter what, safety 1st. i dont want to lost my fairing again... not cheap to respray....

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

lol joking! Yeah with pillion on the chain angle is somehow changed and usually there is a loss of pickup from that.

 

Try increasing preload when carrying passenger, to decrease that 'sag'.

 

Some bikes like Y125Z handle better with box and pillion at the back. That bike is so light it feels like fishtailing esp w/o fairing.

[Thomaswongkk]

but the wind will reduce as there is no fairing to counter it.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Have tried riding 125Z at high speeds in M'sia with and without fairing.

 

With fairing -

Bike is very stable up to 160kph (can reach that speed with pillion some more!). Air resistance is reduced as fairing diverts air around the rider's legs and lower body. Can ride one handed, as the steering is very 'planted', as though there's a spoiler in front.

 

Without fairing -

Actually became slower because of wind resistance from rider's legs, and did not dare to go above 110. Felt very 'shaky' without the aero parts.

[DivineCreations]

wah lau... say my bike naked until like that. now i put back my fairing liao hor. different feel now, wind cannot stand me now. if that day i never pillon my gf, i think can ride little bit more faster than that day. but no matter what, safety 1st. i dont want to lost my fairing again... not cheap to respray....

lol soli la but I say again your SP is one of the best looking ones out there. The Gunmetal gray is amazing. I like!

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

lol soli la but I say again your SP is one of the best looking ones out there. The Gunmetal gray is amazing. I like!

 

Yep, I thought it was the best looking bike last Saturday Very 'stealth'

[Thomaswongkk]

thanks thanks. kaylan borrow me your bike to test run. i want to try the feeling relax bike. ;p

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Sunday lor! Can do bike reviews at Changi area (not at the carpark, too obvious, but got good places nearby).

 

You can try Hyosung Comet as well - very big and comfortable.. .like Super 4.

[Thomaswongkk]

okok. no problem.