Rectifier/regulator questions.

[asmi]

Hi guys,

 

I'm riding an X1r, and i'm thinking of changing to a quick recharge rectifier/regulator for my bike as i'm thinking of install HID on my bike.

 

Just a few question those,

 

Does the rectifier, rectifies full wave or half wave? I mean for most bikes? I've read my service manual, but it says nothing at all regarding this issue. Also is it 3 phase? or 2 phase?

 

Has anyone, who rides an X1r, tried installing HID directly from battery itself as i'm sure, from the battery itself, it has a constant voltage. Thinking of installing directly from battery itself, but i've read, that it will drain the battery terribly.

 

Which also bolts down to this question, since HID buld has lower wattage than normal halogen bulb, why will it drain the battery? My Halogen is running on 35W, so, why would a HID 15W drain the battery, or is insufficient to power up?

 

REgards.

[chuan.z]

Not sure of the rest, but this is a decent experiment done on the electrical properties on a running HID http://members.home.nl/ienenpet/Xenon/Xenon_en.htm

Key points:

- Ballast is not 100% efficient

- High current consumption during power up phase

 

So I guess it's a battery killer if you ride short, frequent trips (not enough for batt to recharge)? Normal electric start already have high current requirement, so best if start bike, then after a while only start HID bah?

[adesmond2]

Not sure of the rest, but this is a decent experiment done on the electrical properties on a running HID http://members.home.nl/ienenpet/Xenon/Xenon_en.htm

Key points:

- Ballast is not 100% efficient

- High current consumption during power up phase

 

So I guess it's a battery killer if you ride short, frequent trips (not enough for batt to recharge)? Normal electric start already have high current requirement, so best if start bike, then after a while only start HID bah?

 

bro.. that's a good link you have there...

[asmi]

I was thinking... my bike coil generates 105W at 5000r/min, and since HID is about 35W, and my bike brake light is halogen which i not sure whats the rating..

 

What if i change all my bulbs to LED, which i believe has lower rating than normal halogen bulb plus its much more brighter.

 

If i connect directly to my battery, will it recharge in time? I asked one of the sellers here, and he said its possible not to buy a new fast charging rectifier but connect it directly to a battery. He did a test before, and his battery went flat after a week if he switched it all the time while riding.

 

Since i'm riding an X1r, and it has two head light, i was thinking of installing the HID on the right, and halogen on the left such that if i saw TP/LTA, i will switch off my HID, and my halogen light will automatically be activated through a relay.

 

The question is, will it work if i use LED for all my bulbs?

[Demon]

You have alot of questions.

 

I was thinking... my bike coil generates 105W at 5000r/min, and since HID is about 35W, and my bike brake light is halogen which i not sure whats the rating..

 

Although HID is operating at 35W, the initial surge is very high. It should not be a problem, but if you need professional assurance, check with limbat.

 

What if i change all my bulbs to LED, which i believe has lower rating than normal halogen bulb plus its much more brighter.

 

Yes and no. Although the LEDs are operating between 3 - 5w depending on colour, but the LEDs need resistors in order to use the power supply from the bike which is around 12v. Alot of power is lost in the resistors.

 

Another thing is the your LED signal light will not blink because of your stock flasher, so you would need to change the flasher to a digital one.

 

If i connect directly to my battery, will it recharge in time? I asked one of the sellers here, and he said its possible not to buy a new fast charging rectifier but connect it directly to a battery. He did a test before, and his battery went flat after a week if he switched it all the time while riding.

 

Don't understand your question but my advise is don't mess with you charging system.

 

Since i'm riding an X1r, and it has two head light, i was thinking of installing the HID on the right, and halogen on the left such that if i saw TP/LTA, i will switch off my HID, and my halogen light will automatically be activated through a relay.

 

If yours is a twin headlight, that's possible. Speak to limbat

[tomsu]

Hi Guys, I have two used Vulcan 1500A rectifier /regulator to let go at RM250-00 each excluding shipping. My vulcan had problem starting up even after a long ride and initially I thought was a faulty battery. After doing some reading on the forum, I realised that the fault lies in the rectifier/regulator as the battery was not being charged even when I was riding ...that drains the battery and caused the difficulty in starting up after even stopping for fuel.

 

The rectifier/regulator may fit other Vulcan models like VN750 as well but you need to check first.

 

PM me if you are interested.

 

Ride safe.............

[tomsu]

Hi Guys, I have two used Vulcan 1500A rectifier /regulator to let go at RM250-00 each excluding shipping. My vulcan had problem starting up even after a long ride and initially I thought was a faulty battery. After doing some reading on the forum, I realised that the fault lies in the rectifier/regulator as the battery was not being charged even when I was riding ...that drains the battery and caused the difficulty in starting up after even stopping for fuel.

 

The rectifier/regulator may fit other Vulcan models like VN750 as well but you need to check first.

 

PM me if you are interested.

 

Ride safe.............