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But do take note how your front brake hoses run from the master pump. Learnt this from NA which is rather important and may save you money. The stock has only ONE brake hose exiting from the master pump but split into TWO (like a inverted "Y" shape) down to your front calipers. However, after market hoses usually offers two individual hoses for your front brakes. thus, if you install two individual brake hoses running parallel down from your master pump to your front brakes, it actually make you lose your braking power as the stock master pump will not be strong enough to create the pressure.

 

 

this is not accurate...

 

the pressure by ur pump is determined by the pump [boreXstroke], it's due to the amt of brake fluid it displaces

 

with all the brakelines already holding brake fluid, the extra amt of brake fluid displaced by the pump will exert the force on the calipers(brakepads) to grip the rotors.

 

it will exert the same amount regardless of how you connect that brakehose...

 

:p

There's no replacement for displacement except for a blower

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You can take queue number from that pine-apple-treeTMH mah ... he incharge of distributing mah ... When the number click, you just following up lor. Eventually you will see me ... LOL

FYI, Kenji don't know about this tech issues ... LOL

Come come hot hot kopi.

 

 

Then I go ask that duriantree to give me priority queue for asking questions liao. Wah lah... never know still must 'register' to speak with you one. You running for elections soon? hahaha

 

As for kenji... I think I just stick to asking him for discount sua sua liao. hahaha

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Mark Kor had experience the wrong set-up before, he can do that brake efficiency explanation.

 

 

Who is Mark kor? I go ask him... just in case queue number too long to ask you. :cheeky:

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Mark Kor had experience the wrong set-up before, he can do that brake efficiency explanation.

 

i guess it can be attributed to improper bleeding...

 

cuz mechanically there's no difference.. :cool:

There's no replacement for displacement except for a blower

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Breeding was perfectly fine.

In real life there is different, parallel linkage is always better than series "provided the pump must be strong !"

Strong pump with Radial design is a bonus.

 

why shld it be different in "real life"? unless there some variables causing the problem that was overlooked.. and in that case, it's not really solving that problem...

 

also i've tried several busa's fitted with brakehoses in parallel and its feel is the same if not better (depending on the bleeding of the system) compared to the stock routing..

 

and also the other prob that will be attributed to the setup is if it really has the difference in the "pressure", the braking of the pressure on the caliper will be unbalanced, as the caliper with the main hose to the pump will get the pressure first and then to the second caliper..

There's no replacement for displacement except for a blower

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The stock has only ONE brake hose exiting from the master pump but split into TWO (like a inverted "Y" shape) down to your front calipers.
Correct me if im wrong , but my stock busa brake hose has the L-shape configuration not the Y-shape.

 

L-shape meaning 1 hose from pump to right caliper, and 1 hose from right caliper to left caliper.

 

y-shape as in 1 hose from pump to y-splitter, and 2 hose to left and right caliper each. ?

 

{edited} anyway i almost got the Hel Steel braided, but its Parallel configration whcih is a bit weak for stock pumps , no ?

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Correct me if im wrong , but my stock busa brake hose has the L-shape configuration not the Y-shape.

 

L-shape meaning 1 hose from pump to right caliper, and 1 hose from right caliper to left caliper.

 

y-shape as in 1 hose from pump to y-splitter, and 2 hose to left and right caliper each. ?

 

{edited} anyway i almost got the Hel Steel braided, but its Parallel configration whcih is a bit weak for stock pumps , no ?

 

:faint: :faint:

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hi all falcon rider.. i am thinking of changing my current bike to haya. so would like to know more about this bike...... hope that u guys can share ur feedback... thanx...

btw is there any street legal full system exhaust for this bike?

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to my humble knowledge...

the L shape setup will nv be as good as the Y or II setup...

reason why...

 

assume and it happened to my frd ... Mr Ng.

the fluid was choke in the line between the two caliper..

and if the right side of the caliper is jam/choke... the left side i can assume it is useless as no fluid flows over. (sorry if i make it sound so bad... ) then techincally it is cheaper also as the line is shorter.

 

so why Y and II is better

as mention assume if one line is choke ... the other is stil working.

and the pressure to the two line is the same.

 

as now the line at thinner the pressure which the original pump shld improves but it will be better if using a bigger piston master pump.

brembo as in the market is 19mm. if you are really hard core. u can go for AP master pump which has a 21mm piston.

add on the radial mount caliper. i think stoppie is possible haha

 

juz my 2c alot more to learn.

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Yes, reporting ... :p

 

oh great. heard from vince ur went to batu pahat. hope to have a chance to ride with u next time.

 

Its better to have lived and lost than to never live at all. Live it, the way you want it.

 

 

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2ct is the dual compound tyre with its sides softer than the centre. thus, increasing life span of the tyres for the street riders and ability to offer good grip on the corners. however, 2ct do wear out very much faster on Busa than on other super sports. but it is definitely a good tyre to have. but if you are not the kind of rider that likes to live life on the edge and prefer to go touring, HPX is the way to go. had it on for the last Songkran trip and it performed extremely well on dry and wet conditions. Just be extra careful when it rain to avoid those painted surfaces. had a couple of experiences that the tyre slipped on the painted surfaces.

 

I also ever used the Continental ContiAttack tyres before. If you are looking for a short term cheap alternative, which offers higher than average grips on wet and dry conditions, you can get it too. :thumb:

 

 

Hi guyz,

 

just wanna add, especially those using pilot power or 2ct, you might wanna take a look at this link. Michelin to recall pilot power/2ct front tyres.

 

http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/act_affich.jsp?news_id=20122&lang=EN&codeRubrique=43

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oh great. heard from vince ur went to batu pahat. hope to have a chance to ride with u next time.

 

Ya, definitely, coz for the L-shape, the fluid respond to the right caliper first then only to the left, while the Y-shape and parallel configuration, fluid respond together.

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to my humble knowledge...

the L shape setup will nv be as good as the Y or II setup...

reason why...

 

assume and it happened to my frd ... Mr Ng.

the fluid was choke in the line between the two caliper..

and if the right side of the caliper is jam/choke... the left side i can assume it is useless as no fluid flows over. (sorry if i make it sound so bad... ) then techincally it is cheaper also as the line is shorter.

 

so why Y and II is better

as mention assume if one line is choke ... the other is stil working.

and the pressure to the two line is the same.

 

as now the line at thinner the pressure which the original pump shld improves but it will be better if using a bigger piston master pump.

brembo as in the market is 19mm. if you are really hard core. u can go for AP master pump which has a 21mm piston.

add on the radial mount caliper. i think stoppie is possible haha

 

juz my 2c alot more to learn.

 

unless u too rich got money to spare.. i wouldnt recommend doing a stoppie on a busa.. the weight is just too heavy.. u are going to destroy your front forks. and if u have the rite technique.. stock brakes u can do stoppie liao..

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