Aprilia RSV4-Quattro a new beginning

[vondy]

Nope.. I've seen a dyno chart on both stock factory and R model in sg.. According to mengtong(sporting) its about 5hp diff..

APRC shuld have the same hp with factory?

 

Do correct me if I'm wrong..

[samurai8410]

i think factory is abit lighter AND FOR SERIOUS TRACK USE. unless u get a good offer like our friend here vondy! lucky guy... those rims... haaaah sweet. well showa original shocks is not that bad afterall. now its all up to us to master the beast how we control it... R version is superb for me and enough. factory need alot of KACHING!$$... no power commander for this bike for the mean time if im not wrong?..

[vondy]

i think factory is abit lighter AND FOR SERIOUS TRACK USE. unless u get a good offer like our friend here vondy! lucky guy... those rims... haaaah sweet. well showa original shocks is not that bad afterall. now its all up to us to master the beast how we control it... R version is superb for me and enough. factory need alot of KACHING!$$... no power commander for this bike for the mean time if im not wrong?..

 

Dude, "unless u get a good offer like our friend here vondy!"

 

Racing ecu you mean? We do not have pc..

[samurai8410]

Dude, "unless u get a good offer like our friend here vondy!"

 

Racing ecu you mean? We do not have pc..

meet up? haiyah abit paiseh ar with my small boike for the mean time haha.. its like a mice meeting T-rex hahaha.. JK... so, have u ripped any class 2 bikes already? .. somemore factory model.... btw, changing the engine position u can doit ur self or?? just curious.... ")

[samurai8410]

http://raptorsandrockets.com/images/Aprilia/Aprilia_RSV4_07-2.jpg

 

stealth carbon fiber..... plus some chrome ... *faint*

[vondy]

meet up? haiyah abit paiseh ar with my small boike for the mean time haha.. its like a mice meeting T-rex hahaha.. JK... so, have u ripped any class 2 bikes already? .. somemore factory model.... btw, changing the engine position u can doit ur self or?? just curious.... ")

 

No worries.. I can meet up with my small bike too.. haha.. nahs.. never had the chance of meeting any "fun" CL2 bikes on road.. I dun get wad u mean on the engine position..

 

The CF coverset can be found either on af1 racing or austin, cant remb.. but either one..

 

Btw, keen to trade ur fairings with mine? Cant bear to re-spray mine but i want white.. haha!

[samurai8410]

No worries.. I can meet up with my small bike too.. haha.. nahs.. never had the chance of meeting any "fun" CL2 bikes on road.. I dun get wad u mean on the engine position..

 

The CF coverset can be found either on af1 racing or austin, cant remb.. but either one..

 

Btw, keen to trade ur fairings with mine? Cant bear to re-spray mine but i want white.. haha!

 

i mean adjustable engine mounts, u can do it urself? trade fairings ar? haha mine last stock for white colour! and fresh from the oven haha. u can do decal? can peel off if u ''sayang ur old paint work haha''

[Slize]

Nope.. I've seen a dyno chart on both stock factory and R model in sg.. According to mengtong(sporting) its about 5hp diff..

APRC shuld have the same hp with factory?

 

Do correct me if I'm wrong..

last i saw.. i think APRC is abt 5 HP higher with a huge ar$e wheel size of 200.

i think factory is abit lighter AND FOR SERIOUS TRACK USE. unless u get a good offer like our friend here vondy! lucky guy... those rims... haaaah sweet. well showa original shocks is not that bad afterall. now its all up to us to master the beast how we control it... R version is superb for me and enough. factory need alot of KACHING!$$... no power commander for this bike for the mean time if im not wrong?..

 

no PC.. unlock race ecu like me and then piggy bag with the Bazzaz. It's also a tuning module. But much better. Tried it on other bikes first and works much better den PC. That's y i was asking any of you guys intertesed in getting the Bazzaz. maybe you can read up about it den you will know what i mean. =)

[vondy]

last i saw.. i think APRC is abt 5 HP higher with a huge ar$e wheel size of 200.

 

Hmm.. We do have a APRC rider.. But He's on a 190 rear wheels..

[vondy]

i mean adjustable engine mounts, u can do it urself? trade fairings ar? haha mine last stock for white colour! and fresh from the oven haha. u can do decal? can peel off if u ''sayang ur old paint work haha''

 

Hmm.. I'm not sure bout the engine mounting stuff.. Have to check with the experts.. Slize probably might know the ans..

 

Yeah, I think i should do decal.. But I'm worried that they might scratch my paint..

[samurai8410]

last i saw.. i think APRC is abt 5 HP higher with a huge ar$e wheel size of 200.

 

 

no PC.. unlock race ecu like me and then piggy bag with the Bazzaz. It's also a tuning module. But much better. Tried it on other bikes first and works much better den PC. That's y i was asking any of you guys intertesed in getting the Bazzaz. maybe you can read up about it den you will know what i mean. =)

oh ok. petrol wise? as we know stock petrol can kill us lei...

 

 

 

Hmm.. I'm not sure bout the engine mounting stuff.. Have to check with the experts.. Slize probably might know the ans..

 

Yeah, I think i should do decal.. But I'm worried that they might scratch my paint..

hmm dont think it will scratch.. its a full wrap. tell them "friend be more careful Hor this is APRILLIA HOR FACTORY SOMEMORE SCRATCH U PAy up aARH!''.. HAHA..

if they ask how much this bike cost, say ''my bike can zzznng ducati anytime. now u noe the price? ''

THEN THEY will call the best of the best to do!

[vondy]

oh ok. petrol wise? as we know stock petrol can kill us lei...

 

 

 

 

hmm dont think it will scratch.. its a full wrap. tell them "friend be more careful Hor this is APRILLIA HOR FACTORY SOMEMORE SCRATCH U PAy up aARH!''.. HAHA..

if they ask how much this bike cost, say ''my bike can zzznng ducati anytime. now u noe the price? ''

THEN THEY will call the best of the best to do!

 

Wah lau! Kan rubbish.. LOLS!! Cos I've got a BAD experience at Aunty shop previously so kinda phobia.. haha..

 

I'm taking 8km/L for my ride

 

Oh ya.. U have yet to pm me ur no.

[samurai8410]

Wah lau! Kan rubbish.. LOLS!! Cos I've got a BAD experience at Aunty shop previously so kinda phobia.. haha..

 

I'm taking 8km/L for my ride

 

Oh ya.. U have yet to pm me ur no.

 

haha JK. yeah auntie shop sux.... the last time they do up my bike takes the whole day(NOT WHOLE BODY WRAP)plus the workmanship sark! OR MAYB u can get a new race fairing? saw 1 at motoworld

[samurai8410]

1 more week ..............to unleash my beast

[tervintan]

if it interest you, get a brief peek on our V4 's brain just skin deep...

driven by curosity, i just gather info from the web anyhow.

:thumb:Enjoy or get even confused:faint:

 

Cheers!

[vondy]

Okay.. Thanks to Tervin, I'm confused..

[tervintan]

anyone looking to order the Bazzaz Z-fi, Z-QS, FI-TC, A-AFM, switch?? I'm selling them as a package or as stand alone. Do Pm for Price and details. All are brand new items. I'll be ordering the Bazzaz again for my rsv4 as it works like a charm on my previous bike. I can help you set the A-AFM and teach you to use it. Although my knowledge can only scratch the surface, I got a very good air fuel ratio set up for track and road use on my R6. The fun part is we can trial and error to fun the best AFR for this bike together!

 

Cheers

 

Hi Slize, are you using custom maps for your previous R6,if so where can you tune your Bazzaz on a dynometer in singapore?

I'm keen to explore Bazzaz but was wondering if there were expertise/facilities in sg to tune or optimize it for my bike....

 

Please help me understand how does its TC works.i don't see it using front/rear wheel speed sensors/target wheels, quite puzzled how does the ECU detect the front /rear wheel are spinning at different speed..losing traction and kicks in ignition advance retardation...

 

thanks in advance bro! good choice and i know your V4 will ride like a gem too!

[vondy]

haha JK. yeah auntie shop sux.... the last time they do up my bike takes the whole day(NOT WHOLE BODY WRAP)plus the workmanship sark! OR MAYB u can get a new race fairing? saw 1 at motoworld

 

1 more week ..............to unleash my beast

 

Dun need ask the price.. I'd rather ship in myself.. haha.. Probably getting decal..

 

Wah.. Excited siol.. Dun forget u still need run in the bike.. haha!

[tervintan]

Still wondering???

 

Or Bazzaz maybe makes use of the existing revolution sensor (at rear wheel meant for vehicle speed measurement) to detect a pre-defined sudden rate of change of wheel speed spin........????

 

does Bazzaz TC connects to this sensor?

Edited April 18, 2011 by tervintan

[rylai]

Hi guys, how is the fuel consumption for RSV4R?? gonna be a deciding factor if i'm getting one or not. Thanks

[vondy]

It's fantastic! U'll never dream that a bike can give u approximately 8km/L.. Haha..

 

Bro.. I guess none of us here bought this ride to save petrol.. There are more to this monster that u can forgo the F/C part..

[samurai8410]

Dun need ask the price.. I'd rather ship in myself.. haha.. Probably getting decal..

 

Wah.. Excited siol.. Dun forget u still need run in the bike.. haha!

haha of coz bro who doesnt! .. mayb a hard break im? hehehe*evillaugh*

 

Hi guys, how is the fuel consumption for RSV4R?? gonna be a deciding factor if i'm getting one or not. Thanks

wah hard to say lei... any sportbike is not f/c friendly .. if f/c is is ur important factor, then better not get this bike. we will be honest to u, this boike f/c is a thirsty monster due to its devastating power!! satisfacti0n guaranteed.

[vondy]

haha of coz bro who doesnt! .. mayb a hard break im? hehehe*evillaugh*

 

 

wah hard to say lei... any sportbike is not f/c friendly .. if f/c is is ur important factor, then better not get this bike. we will be honest to u, this boike f/c is a thirsty monster due to its devastating power!! satisfacti0n guaranteed.

 

Steaaady la! Must ask me along if u wanna do some hard 'pumping'.. Haa!

 

Yes! Very very thirsty.... Haha.. Very very powerful....

[Slize]

oh ok. petrol wise? as we know stock petrol can kill us lei...

 

 

 

 

hmm dont think it will scratch.. its a full wrap. tell them "friend be more careful Hor this is APRILLIA HOR FACTORY SOMEMORE SCRATCH U PAy up aARH!''.. HAHA..

if they ask how much this bike cost, say ''my bike can zzznng ducati anytime. now u noe the price? ''

THEN THEY will call the best of the best to do!

Ok bro I'm going to bring in bazzaz for my rsv4 so I cannot jump the gun and give you a accurate answer on that. But on my R6 I tune up 2 maps, with the bazzaz autotune. I was getting 210km on my pc5 on a custom map ran on dyno. After I put in the bazzaz on my road map which I made more Econ. I was getting between 230-240km. Which was by riding easy. I was still reving the bike up. And the bike wasn't having a lack of power.

For my track map I tuned up a more powerful mapping and I was getting 170-180km.

I am confident your f/c will improve a fair bit. You can wait for my reviews when I have already tested it out on the rsv4. Or we can try it out together.

Other things u can do to slightly improve ur f/c if you are on a full system, firstly the road map eats a hell load of petrol when cruising on express ways. So I just stick to track map. Unlock ur race ecu, change to bmc race filter, block off ur air box plates with the block off plates. This helps a little bit. Other dem that you need to tune up the bike.

Hi Slize, are you using custom maps for your previous R6,if so where can you tune your Bazzaz on a dynometer in singapore?

I'm keen to explore Bazzaz but was wondering if there were expertise/facilities in sg to tune or optimize it for my bike....

 

Please help me understand how does its TC works.i don't see it using front/rear wheel speed sensors/target wheels, quite puzzled how does the ECU detect the front /rear wheel are spinning at different speed..losing traction and kicks in ignition advance retardation...

 

thanks in advance bro! good choice and i know your V4 will ride like a gem too!

 

Ok bro sorry for the late reply, firstly I'm not claiming to be an expert. My knowledge is only scratching the surface, but I do read up and experiment on my bike, so I just give u my honest reviews and knowledge.

Ok I prefer to use the bazzaz autotune, the difference between this autotune and pc5 autotune is that the bazzaz autotune can built a custom map from scratch. And to be honest it works like a charm. To dyno the bazzaz is ex. $350. I alway suggest might as well get the autotune then you can play around with the air fuel ratio. if u feel it's not to you liking you can always re-adjust and go for a few rides. I can share with you how to set and play around with it. As the good thing is that it is real time conditions, not simulated. And that's the fun part getting it to ur riding style and liking. It stores 2 maps so you can set 1 more Econ mapping and 1 more track orientated mapping. I'm getting the bazzaz and autotune and not intending to go for a dyno. As I tested it myself and the performance on my R6 was good! You can also adjust the quick shift kill time and traction levels. So for me personally I do not see a need to dyno it. I have built up the fuel curve using ms excel.

 

Ok abit on the traction, to make it AMA legal it doesn't run on real wheel sensors. It's connected to your ignition coils, and the bazzaz is tested R&D on the track for every different bike model, so the bazzaz you buy for this bike is specifically for this bike. The traction works when there's a spike in your rpm but the ecu is not reading it correctly at the gear and speed the spike in rpm is not normal, it'll cut power to your ignition coil to prevent high sides. There are used in AMA races you can check it out. This is as far tech knowledge as I know.

But it works. I have tested it on my previous bike at track. The good thing is that it is not interfering with your riding as it is not noticeable to you. But at the apex when u are opening your throttle more and more but the bike is maintaining the speed and the rear wheel is not sliding too much.

The traction is adjustable so for faster riders the traction level can be set lower cos some prefer to have abit of rear wheel action. It's works as a safely precaution incase you over pump your throttle in the corner.

I'm bringing in these products so you can pm me if you are keen to order. I'll pass you my Webpage and face book. If you wNt to order it in with me I'm going to order it in may. Of not you can akwAys wait for when I have the product and come meet up and see my humble bike.

 

Btw one last thing af1 and Austin are selling the carbon fiber parts pretty ex. I'm bringing them in much cheaper this I can assure you. Do arrange to meet me after I have got the parts in and I'll also post pictures of the cf parts on my bike. Come and see if the quality is up to ur standard then you can place An order from me if you like it. Reasonable price and good quality is a good deal in my book.

[tervintan]

Zillion Thks for sharing your rich experiences ,Slize.

 

Sounds like similar implementation on the former 08 ZX10R KIMS. In conclusion: To detect rear wheelspin by reading the sudden peak (rate of change) in rpm via the VR sensor reading crankwheel (mechanical relationship of rear wheel spinning speed an VR snesor>>crankwheel to transmission(gearbox),Gearbox to front sproket,sproket to Chain, Chain to rear sproket and rear sproket to rear wheel....)and other parameters like TPS,gear position (gearbox), vehicle speed..etc to judge bike's current drive state/rider's demand

 

KIMS details on traction control below:

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_0804_2008_kawasaki_zx10r/ignition_system.html

Edited April 19, 2011 by tervintan