Fazer 8 or XJ-6 Diversion?

[suer4vtec1]

Hi Guys, I'm contemplating to get either Fazer 8 or XJ-6 Diversion. Wanna go touring with it. Both r really nice. Prices are arnd the same as I've enquired @ bike shops. For Fazer 8, its definitely a bigger cc but the pipe abit bulky. As for XJ-6 Diversion, love the pipe coz its well hidden. Would like anyone's point of view. Greatly appreciated.

 

PS: Pics of both bikes below.

 

 

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/firwr200/fazer8.jpg

Yamaha Fazer 8

 

 

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/firwr200/01-yamaha-Diversion.jpg

Yamaha XJ-6 Diversion

[hachi]

Have you consider FZ1? I heard the price are almost the same. XJ-6 Diversion are built to budget. Budget sus, steel frame,shitty brake calipers.

If you are spending that kinda of money might as well get the FZ8 or just spend a bit more get the FZ1...My 2 cents

[xXxRatedxXx]

Diversion cheaper methinks... And its not so common... whereas FAZER everywhere also have.

[hachi]

IIRC, XJ6 is about 16-16k OTR. Whereby FZ8 and FZ1 about 19-20k. Apart from shitty components, let's us think of its resale value as well.....

And the amount of performance parts of each bike as XJ6 engine is not really in a high state of tuned compare to the other 2. It boils down to riding enjoyment as well...A unwilling engine doesnt likes to be caned....

IIRC, the FZ6 S1 cost 12-13k otr where it share its budget components with XJ6.

Of course updated S2 seem like a better buy as they finally put on some monoblock calipers.

[RaceWerks]

we worked on the 1st FZ8 today

 

The Werks

 

imho

[dragonforce]

between the 2 i would choose fz8, but if you want to go touring, y not get something even more comfortable like honda st?

[newblood]

wld like to check wif u guys, for the new FZ8 is there any accessories out yet eg like the side box and top box.. any idea. wanted to go for FZ8 but bikeshop quote there izint any accessories yet for the FZ8. tanxs.

[ghettogecko]

wld like to check wif u guys, for the new FZ8 is there any accessories out yet eg like the side box and top box.. any idea. wanted to go for FZ8 but bikeshop quote there izint any accessories yet for the FZ8. tanxs.

 

 

 

 

 

...accessories will come by slowly...no worries....

[mild_slevin]

wld like to check wif u guys, for the new FZ8 is there any accessories out yet eg like the side box and top box.. any idea. wanted to go for FZ8 but bikeshop quote there izint any accessories yet for the FZ8. tanxs.

 

There shouldn't be any worries, since FZ8 heavily base on FZ1, manufacturer wouldn't have much of problem coming out new products for FZ8.

 

Yes, comfort is important since you need to travel such a long distance and good fuel consumption (*I seen XJ6 riders mention they can clock somewhere around 20++km/l during break in period, FZ8 might be in the range of 15 ~ 20km/l?). To me agility of the bike and responsive engine would be a plus point.

 

Actually both machine can set foot on NSHW, just bear in mind what you want and does any of them meet your requirement. Peace!

[suer4vtec1]

IIRC, XJ6 is about 16-16k OTR. Whereby FZ8 and FZ1 about 19-20k. Apart from shitty components, let's us think of its resale value as well.....

And the amount of performance parts of each bike as XJ6 engine is not really in a high state of tuned compare to the other 2. It boils down to riding enjoyment as well...A unwilling engine doesnt likes to be caned....

IIRC, the FZ6 S1 cost 12-13k otr where it share its budget components with XJ6.

Of course updated S2 seem like a better buy as they finally put on some monoblock calipers.

 

Bro, it looks like u r really against xj6 yup tot of fazer1 also but gotta c my budget n the insurance also. Was attracted to xj coz of the pipe n the design is nicer. Compared to fz8 n 1, fz6 has a nicer body i think really gotta think veri carefully b4 getting a bike for touring keep ur opinions coming in. Thx guys

[newblood]

There shouldn't be any worries, since FZ8 heavily base on FZ1, manufacturer wouldn't have much of problem coming out new products for FZ8.

 

Yes, comfort is important since you need to travel such a long distance and good fuel consumption (*I seen XJ6 riders mention they can clock somewhere around 20++km/l during break in period, FZ8 might be in the range of 15 ~ 20km/l?). To me agility of the bike and responsive engine would be a plus point.

 

Actually both machine can set foot on NSHW, just bear in mind what you want and does any of them meet your requirement. Peace!

 

tanxs a lot for ur input..

 

cant reali decide which class 2 bike to buy.. guess i have to wait..

[hachi]

Bro, it looks like u r really against xj6 yup tot of fazer1 also but gotta c my budget n the insurance also. Was attracted to xj coz of the pipe n the design is nicer. Compared to fz8 n 1, fz6 has a nicer body i think really gotta think veri carefully b4 getting a bike for touring keep ur opinions coming in. Thx guys

 

Is not against bike but it is not priced right.if it is at 12k region I would recommend it. A budget Class 2 that's offered light touring and heavy commuting in city.

If you looked at those 3 bikes carefully, the details and fitting I guess will be much better for FZ series, regardless of engine sizes. It also depend on what speed you like to tour at. Previously with my R6 I cruise at 180-200kph. Now with my Tmax, 120-130kph.

If you have a thirst for speed, then it might not suit you. But if you tour once of twice per year then it is a good choice.

Few years ago I tour and track every month, after getting married, I tour 1-2 times per year....

That is why the choice of bike is so drastic for me...But still is hard to keep up with my R series friends...As long I ca follow is good enough I guess....Just my 2 cents

Edited July 18, 2010 by hachi

[dragonforce]

Bro, it looks like u r really against xj6 yup tot of fazer1 also but gotta c my budget n the insurance also. Was attracted to xj coz of the pipe n the design is nicer. Compared to fz8 n 1, fz6 has a nicer body i think really gotta think veri carefully b4 getting a bike for touring keep ur opinions coming in. Thx guys

 

you have a typo here? compared fz8 and 1, you think 6 have a nicer body...? anyway fz6 have a sharper head fairing compared to fz8 and fz1.. i prefer fz6 but the looks of fz1 and 8 is fine too.. after changing to aftermarket pipes. dun like to look of the pipe..

[stanco]

can i clarify something? among the fazer series.. am i right to say that only fazer 8 is using USD fork while fz1 and fz6 is using normal fork?

[Cracked]

can i clarify something? among the fazer series.. am i right to say that only fazer 8 is using USD fork while fz1 and fz6 is using normal fork?

 

FZ1 also using usd forks

[suer4vtec1]

Is not against bike but it is not priced right.if it is at 12k region I would recommend it. A budget Class 2 that's offered light touring and heavy commuting in city.

If you looked at those 3 bikes carefully, the details and fitting I guess will be much better for FZ series, regardless of engine sizes. It also depend on what speed you like to tour at. Previously with my R6 I cruise at 180-200kph. Now with my Tmax, 120-130kph.

If you have a thirst for speed, then it might not suit you. But if you tour once of twice per year then it is a good choice.

Few years ago I tour and track every month, after getting married, I tour 1-2 times per year....

That is why the choice of bike is so drastic for me...But still is hard to keep up with my R series friends...As long I ca follow is good enough I guess....Just my 2 cents

 

Thx bro for dat clearer explanation. Still gt time to decide. Do not want to rush in getting a tourer.

[suer4vtec1]

you have a typo here? compared fz8 and 1, you think 6 have a nicer body...? anyway fz6 have a sharper head fairing compared to fz8 and fz1.. i prefer fz6 but the looks of fz1 and 8 is fine too.. after changing to aftermarket pipes. dun like to look of the pipe..

 

 

No typo errror bro. To me fz6 is nicer in shape coz my fren riding 1 n quite tempted 2 get 1 myself but gotta control the urge haha dun want impulse buying

[dragonforce]

No typo errror bro. To me fz6 is nicer in shape coz my fren riding 1 n quite tempted 2 get 1 myself but gotta control the urge haha dun want impulse buying

you get what i meant dude, you gave yourself 2 options, A (fz1) and B (fz8). you chose C (fz6) when C is not in the options at all.

[thenation]

you get what i meant dude, you gave yourself 2 options, A (fz1) and B (fz8). you chose C (fz6) when C is not in the options at all.

 

Haha dude, relax. He didn't mean that. He was comparing fz6 to fz8 as well as to fz1.

[ChopStick]

Couple of months back, I told myself, I'm so gonna get the FZ8. I bought my FZ6 07 at 13800 (excluding insurance). And FZ1 09-10 was priced 19-21k the last time I checked.

 

So I expect FZ8 should be priced roughly round 16k. Bear in mind FZ1N was priced 18k. When I heard the launch price, 19k....I was like, WTF is wrong with the market now.

 

Anyway, back to the topic, XJ6 or FZ8. If only have to choose from this 2, go for FZ8. XJ6 is overpriced in the 600cc group.

 

If budget is an issue, go look at other 600cc. Hornet 600 is sweet, Honda deuvile (no idea how to spell it) and other make.

[mild_slevin]

tanxs a lot for ur input..

 

cant reali decide which class 2 bike to buy.. guess i have to wait..

 

its my pleasure to share bits n pieces of info, "I'm a rider too"

a decent street fighter would be a good choice for city commuting and occasion touring. I found one, simply enjoy the ride day in day out.

 

Is not against bike but it is not priced right.if it is at 12k region I would recommend it. A budget Class 2 that's offered light touring and heavy commuting in city.

If you looked at those 3 bikes carefully, the details and fitting I guess will be much better for FZ series, regardless of engine sizes. It also depend on what speed you like to tour at. Previously with my R6 I cruise at 180-200kph. Now with my Tmax, 120-130kph.

If you have a thirst for speed, then it might not suit you. But if you tour once of twice per year then it is a good choice.

Few years ago I tour and track every month, after getting married, I tour 1-2 times per year....

That is why the choice of bike is so drastic for me...But still is hard to keep up with my R series friends...As long I ca follow is good enough I guess....Just my 2 cents

 

Good analysis

 

can i clarify something? among the fazer series.. am i right to say that only fazer 8 is using USD fork while fz1 and fz6 is using normal fork?

 

both FZ1 and FZ8 are using USD fork w non radial front brake, but not sure if FZ8 fork is fully adjustable? FZ6 using a normal telescopic fork, but it have that "tough" look which I like it alot.

 

An article on FZ8, please take a look :

(http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/designcafe/en/detail.jsp?Component=tcm:71-378070&PageTitle=FZ8/Fazer%208:%20A%20new%20experience&pageNum=1)

*brief introduction on FZ8

 

Another of my all time fav article on FZ6 :

(http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/designcafe/en/detail.jsp?Component=tcm:71-311825&PageTitle=FZ6/Fazer%20History:%20all%20models,%20all%20colours%201998-2009&pageNum=1)

*ranging from 1998 Fazer6 which started with YZF600 Thundercat engine.

[mild_slevin]

hopStick;6549616']Couple of months back, I told myself, I'm so gonna get the FZ8. I bought my FZ6 07 at 13800 (excluding insurance). And FZ1 09-10 was priced 19-21k the last time I checked.

 

So I expect FZ8 should be priced roughly round 16k. Bear in mind FZ1N was priced 18k. When I heard the launch price, 19k....I was like, WTF is wrong with the market now.

 

Anyway, back to the topic, XJ6 or FZ8. If only have to choose from this 2, go for FZ8. XJ6 is overpriced in the 600cc group.

 

If budget is an issue, go look at other 600cc. Hornet 600 is sweet, Honda deuvile (no idea how to spell it) and other make.

 

mind ask how come your FZ6 07 price at 13.8k? Is it brand new FZ6S model?

Now I think again which 600 street fighter is the cheapest in our market? Meantime I can only think of FZ6.

[suer4vtec1]

Thx alot to everyone for their opinions n points of view. Nw when i tink again, xj6 does rather cost quite high comparing to fz. Hmm need to do alot of think but like wat chopstick said the price of fz8 is almost the same or even equivalent to fz1 . If that really is the case would rather get a fz1 i've enquired xj6 for 2 shops. One quoted me 13.5k machine. The other quoted me 16.5k exclude insurance. That me kinda think of getting a fz6 s2. Bw much is the pricing roughly? Thx

[dragonforce]

Haha dude, relax. He didn't mean that. He was comparing fz6 to fz8 as well as to fz1.

all is well! just puzzled about his choice over his own options.. haha..

 

anyway suer4vtec1,

fz6s2 2nd hand ranges from 9k+ to probably about 11k+? from what i see on sale..

[suer4vtec1]

Nt bad the price but lookin @ brand new i enquired frm a bikeshop abt fz1. Machine price is 13k but plus everything n insuramce would b arnd 15+-16k rite guys?