[Discussion] Technical - Air Filter

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by fattsum@Oct 4 2006, 10:57 PM

i dun think much of the power or smoothness u will gain from K&N... i swicth different brand so far and once i got the new 1 of cos mentally wise i feel it better and the responce great no matter which brand issit... most ppl like K&N cos it is washable and last longer.... so practically it saver...

Anyway i'm using BMC air filter bro

[standard]

k&n ... money well spent

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by standard@Oct 5 2006, 06:42 AM

k&n ... money well spent

It's all depends on individual bro..spent slightly more for better performance products

[cookie_monster]

actually if u know how to allow more air into air box chamber, even a stock(paper) filter can b as good as a K&N or BMC. but paper filter is not reusable.....

 

den again for optimal performance u hav to get e air/fuel ratio correct, more air alone does not get u anywhere. tat y some ppl go for jetting to increase fuel intake for e carb.....

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by cookie_monster@Oct 5 2006, 01:57 PM

actually if u know how to allow more air into air box chamber, even a stock(paper) filter can b as good as a K&N or BMC. but paper filter is not reusable.....

 

den again for optimal performance u hav to get e air/fuel ratio correct, more air alone does not get u anywhere. tat y some ppl go for jetting to increase fuel intake for e carb.....

yupe That's true bro!

[JoOs7eR]

Actually In The Long Run I Prefer K&N Coz Can Wash And Reuse...

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by JoOs7eR@Oct 5 2006, 10:46 PM

Actually In The Long Run I Prefer K&N Coz Can Wash And Reuse...

Hehehe.. BMC too reuse and wash

[kennethy]

Originally posted by sabbaha@Oct 6 2006, 05:57 AM

Hehehe.. BMC too reuse and wash

hi sabbaha,

 

how do you clean BMC? for K&N, we use a 'recharge kit' which is basically one bottle to wash and one bottle of red stuff to apply on the filter...

 

thinking of switching to BMC cos hear better than K&N

[mudman]

Originally posted by duckit@Oct 5 2006, 02:47 AM

My own theory , juz sharing

 

- $70 plus for a KnN filter , u can rewash n rewash again n use again . but again , i seen how workshop wash e filter and use those air gun to blow them dry , the filter by then would be so damage .And how clean can it be from a brand new filter ? After washin will be as clean as a new stock filter ? Wonders.

 

- $30 plus for a Honda OEM filter . After usin for XX-km of milege u decided to change , juz buy a new one . And its clean from anything .

 

Performance wise , its all up to individuals and their ridin style and their feelin to judge.

Some said after install got difference , some said no . Its take up quite alot of set-up for ur bike to perform optimal performance

this is jus what i'm looking for bro ......

 

thanks for clearing my doubts........

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by kennethy@Oct 6 2006, 12:42 PM

hi sabbaha,

 

how do you clean BMC? for K&N, we use a 'recharge kit' which is basically one bottle to wash and one bottle of red stuff to apply on the filter...

 

thinking of switching to BMC cos hear better than K&N

Its the same bro..they have their own recharger kit too...

[duckit]

Originally posted by mudman@Oct 6 2006, 03:55 PM

this is jus what i'm looking for bro ......

 

thanks for clearing my doubts........

No problem , just sharing .

I used to have KnN filter but i use stock filter all along and sold away the KnN , the KnNn not even few K only . Buts its all up to owner choice ...

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by duckit@Oct 6 2006, 11:42 PM

No problem , just sharing .

I used to have KnN filter but i use stock filter all along and sold away the KnN , the KnNn not even few K only . Buts its all up to owner choice ...

[kennethy]

Originally posted by sabbaha@Oct 6 2006, 04:58 PM

Its the same bro..they have their own recharger kit too...

i see... cos i never see the recharge kit at motorworld... only see for K&N ones... thanks...

[Epredator]

Any bro & sis out there can advise how to wash the k&n filter? Wat are the steps & how often?

[kennethy]

buy the recharge kit.. inside will have 2 bottles of solution... one for cleaning, one to oil the filter...

 

there are specific instructions in the recharge kit (with pics also).

[sabbaha]

Originally posted by kennethy@Oct 10 2006, 02:21 AM

buy the recharge kit.. inside will have 2 bottles of solution... one for cleaning, one to oil the filter...

 

there are specific instructions in the recharge kit (with pics also).

cool

[duckit]

hhmmm is motor world e only place to BMC filter for Super 4 ?

[IvikaRazI]

Ya would like to know also BMC vs KNN. BMC price is double of KNN. Is there a huge performance increase?

 

I'm changing mine (stock) to KNN or BMC but dunno which one good. I don't mind spending more for product that is longlasting, increased performance and etc...

 

Any people would like to input on this?

[duckit]

Yeah , i found e filter on e offical webby but canot order as its only in US n Canada only . Any input like who sells them and hw much

 

I attach a pic and e description of e filter from their webby

 

From e webby:

 

Code : 441/08

 

Price (US $): 54.77

 

BMC REPLACEMENT FILTER

 

BMC has developed a particular production system based on soft rubber moulding which produces the familiar BMC red filters. They are made in one single piece with no welded joints in the corners, thus avoiding breaking risks.

[duckit]

Got this information from a webby :

 

BMC Racing Air Filters

 

Developed in the high tech world of F1 racing, BMC filters are currently in use by Ferrari, Porsche, and BMW factory teams.

 

These washable air filters are manufactured to higher tolerances than any others on the market for maximum filtration and flow rate. BMC incorporates parallel pleated cotton fabric to offer flow rates of up to 900CFM.

 

BMC recommends filter service every 25,000km.

 

 

Todd Says: "I am often asked about the BMC race filters and the level of particle filtration. Well, the bottom line is that what you give up in very fine particle filtration you gain in CFM airflow. Do I suggest ANY high flow air filter to those riding in extremely dusty conditions? No. But for the track day riders and racers seeking to maximize the potential of their full exhaust systems, BMC is a great choice."

[IvikaRazI]

Just wondering, if anyone got any problems or bad experience with BMC air filters? There is an MO on BMC and was thinking of getting one.

 

Appreciate if can get some feedback on BMC.

[MODzster]

Juz wondering: increase performance when changing to KNN or BMC in what ways? does it cause the fuel flow faster to react with more air rushing in? as mine is still stock i would like to find out too as i am switching sooner or later

[RobbenArjen]

bros.. how many km den must clean ur knn filter ??

if buy those recharge kit must open ur tank den can access to the filter rit??

 

if bring to motordiam ask dem do .. they usually jus use air gun can clean ?? n how much they charge

[Sretroyl]

some motor shop uses chemical to wash (i got a bad incident,in one of those motorshop @ bukit batok),.. some juz wash wit water, den uses air gun...

 

normal they charge $10 - $15 for tat

[carbine]

juz a thought...anyone knows how much oil to apply on the filter?