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Dear TRR, Andre has responded in the other thread about his FC and i have shared about the power and handling. Please look into this thread,http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/402791-Adiva-ADtre-owner-s-thread/page3.

 

Both of us were even slightly injured due trying to handle the heavy bike while stationary!

 

Thanks Ben but that Thread site is for ADTre owners leh .....Since Andre owns and ride an AD200 and now ADTre300 he is the best person to give an detail evaluation between the 2 in all aspect....do you rode an AD200 before ?

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Warning: This is a very controversial topic !! - Do you agree with this findings.......

 

I wrote "Break-In Secrets" after successfully applying this method

to approximately 300 new engines, all without any problems whatsoever.

 

Links to this article now appear on hundreds of motorsports discussion forums from all over the world. The reason is that over time, large numbers of people have done a direct comparison between my method and the owner's manual method, and the news of their success is spreading rapidly.

 

The results are always the same... a dramatic increase in power at all RPMs. In addition, many professional mechanics have disassembled engines that have used this method, to find that the condition of the engine is much better than when the owner's manual break-in method has been used.

 

The thing that makes this page so controversial is that there have been many other break-in articles

written in the past which will contradict what has been written here.

 

Several factors make the older information on break-in obsolete.

 

The biggest factor is that engine manufacturers now use a much finer honing pattern in the cylinders than they once did. This in turn changes the break-in requirements, because as you're about to learn, the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with

newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines.

 

In addition, there is a lot less heat build up in the cylinders from ring friction

due to the finer honing pattern used in modern engines.

 

The other factors that have changed are the vastly improved metal casting and machining

technologies which are now used. This means that the "wearing in" of the new parts

involves significantly less friction and actual wear than it did in the distant past.

 

With that in mind ...

 

Welcome to one of the most controversial motorsports pages on the internet !!

 

How To Break In Your Engine For

More Power & Less Wear !

 

One of the most critical parts of the engine building process is the break in !!

No matter how well an engine is assembled, it's final power output is all up to you !!

 

Although the examples shown here are motorcycle engines,

these principles apply to all 4 stroke engines:

 

Street or Race Motorcycles, Cars, Snowmobiles, Airplanes & yes ...

even Lawn Mowers !!

( regardless of brand, cooling type, or number of cylinders. )

 

These same break in techniques apply to both steel cylinders and Nikasil, as well as the ceramic

composite cylinders that Yamaha uses in it's motorcycles and snowmobiles.

What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??

The Short Answer: Run it Hard !

 

Why ??

Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

 

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...

How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of

PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??

Of course it can't.

 

How Do Rings Seal Against Tremendous Combustion Pressure ??

 

From the actual gas pressure itself !! It passes over the top of the ring, and gets behind it to force it outward against the cylinder wall. The problem is that new rings are far from perfect and they must be worn in quite a bit in order to completely seal all the way around the bore. If the gas pressure is strong enough during the engine's first miles of operation (open that throttle !!!), then the entire ring will wear into

the cylinder surface, to seal the combustion pressure as well as possible.

 

 

The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...

The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.

 

There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!

 

If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.

 

Fortunately, most new sportbike owners can't resist the urge to "open it up" once or twice,

which is why more engines don't have this problem !!

 

An additional factor that you may not have realized, is that the person at the dealership who set up your bike probably blasted your brand new bike pretty hard on the "test run". So, without realizing it, that adrenaline crazed set - up mechanic actually did you a huge favor !!

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

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Can easily fit 2 full face helmets or 4 half cap. :)

 

Thank you. 2 helmet even with the roof retracted?...

 

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Equip a single cylinder 300 cc engine fed injection and four-valve cylinder head of 29.5 PS of maximum power, and its capacity is remarkable. In the rear hood (fully upholstered inside), is able to accommodate two helmets and space saving retractable roof stop. Monta wheels 13 “on both trains and the brake system consists of three discs (a 240 mm rear and two 220 mm front).

 

http://auto.topsportracing.com/adiva-ad3the-first-three-wheels-with-roof

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Don't think so. With roof fully retracted, it should able to store 2 half cap helmets only.

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Don't think so. With roof fully retracted, it should able to store 2 half cap helmets only.

 

Thank you for ur inputs.Reason of me asking cos still contemplating if to let go of my tourer (with 2 large panniers) for the AD3 and take things at a slower pace.it is usual for me to run errand for 2 x 1.8kg of milk powder ( Tin can) and others (groceries about 3 days).

 

should the need for more storage, is there any upgrade could be done on the AD3.....?

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The AD3 has 90 L of storage space, shouldn't be any problem to store 2 x 1.8kg milk powder. Only concern is the weight capacity.

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Wonder how much is the AD3 now and where is the best place or best person to buy from.

Jan 2008 - Present : SYM Joyride 200 Black

Feb 2006 - Sep 2007 : Gillera Runner 180 Metalic Orange

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AD3 about 16k to 17k now.

Mah is the agent.

 

Can try the dealer Nah Wah at AMK Ind Pk 1

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