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Ahh, thanks !! I'm trying to get my license ASAP so I can subrider my friend's bike since he going to NS.. I've got 1 last prac 1 session that I booked tmr. The rest are like close to 2 weeks later which sucks if I fail the prac tmr.

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Ahh, thanks !! I'm trying to get my license ASAP so I can subrider my friend's bike since he going to NS.. I've got 1 last prac 1 session that I booked tmr. The rest are like close to 2 weeks later which sucks if I fail the prac tmr.

Pros and cons if you wanna subride your friend's bike. Nothing beats having your own bike.

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haha nvr tried before lei :D, sch bike gear quite hard to kick without clutch in.

 

Ive done it abt 3 times i think - accidental of course lol. Left foot moved faster than left hand haha. Seems okleh. No ill effect on the bike. No jerking or anything. Or maybe cos its done at slower speed?? I'll try it once at higher speed - after exiting ramp this coming tues & see how.

 

Half clutch is only applicable in first gear.

 

I'll take that to mean cant half clutch in 2nd gear at cranked course??

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Ive done it abt 3 times i think - accidental of course lol. Left foot moved faster than left hand haha. Seems okleh. No ill effect on the bike. No jerking or anything. Or maybe cos its done at slower speed?? I'll try it once at higher speed - after exiting ramp this coming tues & see how.

 

 

 

I'll take that to mean cant half clutch in 2nd gear at cranked course??

Done incorrectly at the wrong rpm you will probably damage the school bike's gearbox. It takes a experienced rider to know how to do that correctly. Imagine all the learners start changing gears without clutching in..... Clutch levers are there for a reason.

Follow your heart even if sometimes it means losing your mind.

 

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Done incorrectly at the wrong rpm you will probably damage the school bike's gearbox. It takes a experienced rider to know how to do that correctly. Imagine all the learners start changing gears without clutching in..... Clutch levers are there for a reason.

 

Point noted. Thanks sis.

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Yeah, i know nothing beats having my own bike. Now my lessons are like close to 2 weeks away if i fail tmr . Scared sia

 

I took L1 5 times. I had to wait that long too to get my 5th attempt slot. Dun scared to fail. Consolation is that not only will you become more familiar with the feel of the bike & its basic operations, but you will have more new circuit situations/experiences for you to adapt to compared to those who passed L1 quickly. In my case it was those slow learner drivers - so have to sorta find & develop ways for slow speed maneuvers. So these new things that you discover along the way which may help in future lessons eg plank. But admittedly it is still frustrating to fail. Also performance anxiety also affects your lesson performance. So just go there empty mind, no expectations, just relax & enjoy yourself & the lesson.

 

But as many others here have said..... be prepared to camp outside the webpage. Check out for slots every 2 hrs or so thro out the day.

 

 

btw:offtopic: there was an auntie who started her L1 same time as me. I saw her again last thurs & she's still stuck at L1!

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

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He told me i just needed to revise on my 5th gear changing cuz i was too slow when he scolded me for going too fast beforehand.. Just want to clear everything ASAP cuz my membership expires on feb >

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Ive done it abt 3 times i think - accidental of course lol. Left foot moved faster than left hand haha. Seems okleh. No ill effect on the bike. No jerking or anything. Or maybe cos its done at slower speed?? I'll try it once at higher speed - after exiting ramp this coming tues & see how.

 

 

 

I'll take that to mean cant half clutch in 2nd gear at cranked course??

Crank course. First gear into the course and change up to second gear before you get to the right turn. U must release your clutch fully inside the crank course once in gear 2. Or you will get demerit for improper posture. Anywhere actually once you leave first gear you cannot have your hand on the clutch apart for changing gear.

 

Slope. Half clutch in first gear when moving up hill from standstill once you cross the top and go down slope you must release clutch fully to demonstrate engine braking down the slope

A Journey of a Thousand Revs Begins with the First Gear Change...

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I passed my prac 1 today & i was wondering why my bike jerk hardly when I was at gear 1 with low speed then every time i trottle a bit. My bike jerk a lot...

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1 more mth for my 2a TP sian~ =X

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I passed my prac 1 today & i was wondering why my bike jerk hardly when I was at gear 1 with low speed then every time i trottle a bit. My bike jerk a lot...

U need to throttle smoother and in smaller amount

A Journey of a Thousand Revs Begins with the First Gear Change...

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hi all, been reading this thread since i started my 2b journey in Aug, very useful! :thumb: anyone at prac 7 now? the slots are so limited, system is showing "0 session available from 28 Sep 2014 to 30 Nov 2014" :mad:

 

Do we need to wait so long for lesson 7??? Tried to book lesson 6 today, the earliest is 4 nov. that is really long.

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Do we need to wait so long for lesson 7??? Tried to book lesson 6 today, the earliest is 4 nov. that is really long.

Camp on the website. You'll be able to get earlier slots for sure.

Follow your heart even if sometimes it means losing your mind.

 

Honda NSR150SP - 2013 ~ 2015

Honda CBR400RRR - 2014 ~ Current

Honda MSX125 - 2015 ~ 2016

Ducati 899 Panigale - 2016 ~ 2017

Yamaha T135 Spark - 2016 ~ 2019

Kawasaki ZX10R - 2017 ~ Current

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Miraculously passed L3 today on 5th attempt! I personally felt my 3rd attempt performance was the best ever. But still lots & lots of work to be done on the fig 8 & crank for consistency. Maybe its because today the hill starts were solid , my 1st attempt on the 8 felt like a really good one & was kinda smooth on the crank course. Cant say much for the other fig 8 attempts. Inconsistency again. Is it an unwritten rule that instructors cant keep you in 1 lesson for too long?

 

Had a chance to ride a new bike today & the clutch, throttle response & ride was sooo smooth! Made general riding so much easier.

 

L4 this thurs. Ive a suspicion the next big killer for me will be the slalom - quick reflexes needed there too.

 

According to course structure there are revisions before L5. How many allowed? Can you stay at 1 station for the whole session? eg book 2 revs. 1st rev do L3 stuff only, 2nd rev do L4 stuff only. Or you must do all L3 & L4 stuff on the same session?

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

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Miraculously passed L3 today on 5th attempt! I personally felt my 3rd attempt performance was the best ever. But still lots & lots of work to be done on the fig 8 & crank for consistency. Maybe its because today the hill starts were solid , my 1st attempt on the 8 felt like a really good one & was kinda smooth on the crank course. Cant say much for the other fig 8 attempts. Inconsistency again. Is it an unwritten rule that instructors cant keep you in 1 lesson for too long?

 

Had a chance to ride a new bike today & the clutch, throttle response & ride was sooo smooth! Made general riding so much easier.

 

L4 this thurs. Ive a suspicion the next big killer for me will be the slalom - quick reflexes needed there too.

 

According to course structure there are revisions before L5. How many allowed? Can you stay at 1 station for the whole session? eg book 2 revs. 1st rev do L3 stuff only, 2nd rev do L4 stuff only. Or you must do all L3 & L4 stuff on the same session?

1. You can book as many revisions as you want.

2. You can do any courses at any given time.

3. You can choose to focus on one course for as long as you want but if you know that there are students doing L3 on the F8/Crank etc, move on to the other courses to use up your revision time more efficiently.

4. Practice on the weak courses first, and after you're smooth, go through the entire test route repeatedly. This would prepare you for the actual evaluation as you would only have one shot at each course and you wanna get used to the flow of the test route.

5. Best to book a revision right before your L5. Eg L5 is at 8.40pm, book a revision slot at 6.50pm. This way you'll be able to chop your bike for the L5 and muscle memory will be at its best for your L5. Pick a bike that you like during your revison, practice on it, after parking back the bike when revision time ends, leave your helmet on the bike to "reserve" it for your L5.

 

During my 2B days it was a lot about getting a good bike that we're used to and all that. And it really helps to do a test with a bike that you are alr familiar with.

 

Of course after you clear your L8, and book your TP, stop the habit of choosing the best bikes and get used to the good as well as the bad bikes as you may not have the privilege of having many bikes to choose from for TP.

 

But for early days like now, getting a good bike to work with definitely helps to get through each lesson faster.

Follow your heart even if sometimes it means losing your mind.

 

Honda NSR150SP - 2013 ~ 2015

Honda CBR400RRR - 2014 ~ Current

Honda MSX125 - 2015 ~ 2016

Ducati 899 Panigale - 2016 ~ 2017

Yamaha T135 Spark - 2016 ~ 2019

Kawasaki ZX10R - 2017 ~ Current

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Camp on the website. You'll be able to get earlier slots for sure.

 

Been doing that. Manage to get one on 23 oct.

 

What r the things to look out for lesson 6?

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Been doing that. Manage to get one on 23 oct.

 

What r the things to look out for lesson 6?

Lesson 6 is road hmmmm.

 

Basically, go out and enjoy. Don't be afraid when you're out there on the road. I believe @rijac should have alr made a note of Lesson 6 back then in 2013. Go find it.

 

Another just a brief reminder... From what I recall (if my memory never fail me), Lesson 6 is all about applying what you have learnt in the circuit for normal road conditions. Meaning you gotta do your check backs (rule of thumb - always check away from the curb), blindspot checks, forming up (single arrow form up two rows, two or more arrow form up single file), MUST STOP for stopline (there is one route with a pretty invisible stop line that's fading - but it's still a stop line so be observant and stop!), always make sure the road is safe before you proceed to turn out, don't be afraid to speed up, be confident when executing a lane change (don't hesitate). Take note of positioning when coming to a stop (right turn queue up right left, left turn queue up left right), left turns and right turns - treat the amber lights as red lights. Instructors were pretty anal back then about chiong amber lights. If you haven't pass the stopline, and it hits amber, stop and wait for the next green light. Do not chiong. So, approaching the junction slow down and try to anticipate the lights. Take note of bike position for right turns (number of bikes to be in the turning pocket/yellow box, and if your vision is being blocked by a bus, or car, wait. Wait till the green arrow to come on if you must - don't proceed unless you are sure there is no traffic coming at you), filter lane dos and don'ts (form up single file if you have to come to a stop inside the filter lane).

 

It is possible to pass in a single attempt as long as you do everything correctly and follow instructions. It may seems like there's quite a lot to digest during the briefing at the start of the lesson but once you get it, it will come like second nature. I can't guide you in detail what to do but from my memory, these are mainly the stuff to look out for and of cos, your riding confidence. If you are confident enough and you show that you are capable of handling the bike out there on the road, you will pass. It took me two attempts to do L6 though. Kept chioning the amber lights. Lol. All the best!

Follow your heart even if sometimes it means losing your mind.

 

Honda NSR150SP - 2013 ~ 2015

Honda CBR400RRR - 2014 ~ Current

Honda MSX125 - 2015 ~ 2016

Ducati 899 Panigale - 2016 ~ 2017

Yamaha T135 Spark - 2016 ~ 2019

Kawasaki ZX10R - 2017 ~ Current

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Lesson 6. Enjoy the higher speeds. And look out for the faded stop line inside the industrial estate.

 

Key things to remember. Forming up. Know when to be one row and when to be 2 rows

A Journey of a Thousand Revs Begins with the First Gear Change...

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Crank course. First gear into the course and change up to second gear before you get to the right turn. U must release your clutch fully inside the crank course once in gear 2. Or you will get demerit for improper posture. Anywhere actually once you leave first gear you cannot have your hand on the clutch apart for changing gear.

 

Slope. Half clutch in first gear when moving up hill from standstill once you cross the top and go down slope you must release clutch fully to demonstrate engine braking down the slope

 

Thanks for this clarification.

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1. You can book as many revisions as you want.

2. You can do any courses at any given time.

3. You can choose to focus on one course for as long as you want but if you know that there are students doing L3 on the F8/Crank etc, move on to the other courses to use up your revision time more efficiently.

4. Practice on the weak courses first, and after you're smooth, go through the entire test route repeatedly. This would prepare you for the actual evaluation as you would only have one shot at each course and you wanna get used to the flow of the test route.

5. Best to book a revision right before your L5. Eg L5 is at 8.40pm, book a revision slot at 6.50pm. This way you'll be able to chop your bike for the L5 and muscle memory will be at its best for your L5. Pick a bike that you like during your revison, practice on it, after parking back the bike when revision time ends, leave your helmet on the bike to "reserve" it for your L5.

 

During my 2B days it was a lot about getting a good bike that we're used to and all that. And it really helps to do a test with a bike that you are alr familiar with.

 

Of course after you clear your L8, and book your TP, stop the habit of choosing the best bikes and get used to the good as well as the bad bikes as you may not have the privilege of having many bikes to choose from for TP.

 

But for early days like now, getting a good bike to work with definitely helps to get through each lesson faster.

 

Thanks mica. I'll firm up what the rev strategy wld be like after passing L4.

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

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Lesson 6. Enjoy the higher speeds. And look out for the faded stop line inside the industrial estate.

 

Key things to remember. Forming up. Know when to be one row and when to be 2 rows

 

The instructors will tell you this during L2 & expect you to remember it but So far no instructor explained why so to me. Being someone who remembers things better by 1st knowing/understanding the logic behind it, i think i got it after some thought:

 

Single arrow lanes - these are single direction only. Can form up in pairs as whatever vehicle behind you will also be moving in that direction. Being in pairs will not obstruct vehicle behind you.

 

Double arrow lanes - 2 different directions are permitted. Single file. Being in pairs will cause an obstruction to the vehicle behind if that vehicle intends to go in another direction from the one you want.

 

Hope this helps in remembering what to do.

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

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The exception being filter lanes. You do not encounter them until lesson 6. Filter lanes are always single row

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