[cdc] 2b

[FTW.]

the bike do make some differences, i agree.

[FireGunz]

Of course well maintained bikes make a difference. And considering the amount paid per lesson you'd probably expect them to spend a little more on maintenance.

 

But many learners before you have said the same and nothing's changed. So might as well adapt.

 

True enough... totally agree... (no offence) even getting the new bike still need to get to adapt to the bike, not the bike get adapt to you. ... so blame on the bike (whatever it) can't really help much (if wanted to pass). So might as well just polish the skill (whichever that it weak) might able to help you pass (of course the luck too).

 

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[ttkoh123]

True enough... totally agree... (no offence) even getting the new bike still need to get to adapt to the bike, not the bike get adapt to you. ... so blame on the bike (whatever it) can't really help much (if wanted to pass). So might as well just polish the skill (whichever that it weak) might able to help you pass (of course the luck too).

 

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Guys, I actually passed my L8 with only 8 demerit points, 4 points from one wrong signal [which I still don't know where]. I considered that to be quite good but it was my 3rd attempt at L8 after closely reading RIJAC kongfu manual posted somewhere here. RIJAC contributed a lot here, humble pie always say he failed his TP. Guys, I just check if I can further explore the opportunity to choose the bike of choice only. I have tried many bikes as I have said, but still it would be advantageous to get the bike of choice, really. It would be best to focus my skill fully on the road, on the signs and on any perceived dangers, than to spend times compensating and adjusting for lousy bikes. But since the answer is cannot, then no choice lor! have got to stick with it and see the luck of the day. Peace be to all and have many nice days ahead.

[darkredmica]

Hi jbdoggy, thanks for sharing the passing rates during your time. We are all impressed. But if you read carefully, I said the recent last batch failed badly. Teaching and circumstances, these things are very dynamic in the real world. People changed. The purpose, to help them to improve by being critical. Yes, I appreciate your list of good bikes. Yes, you are real, some bike perform badly on plank.

 

For some others, I know, they like to profess their skills and relive their days of motorcycle glories, but they are of not much here, trying to impress with their skills and abilities to others. Frankly, I cannot understand their direction in life, motive or other intention. But looking at so many fellows learners at CDC frantically searching for Good Bikes, I say, get real, get a life, accept the fact that a Good maintained bikes makes a difference regardless of your skills. The question was simple, but it turns out into a self-advertisement opportunity for some.... hahahahahaha cheers!

The bikes are important, no doubt about that. No one is denying that fact. But nothing is going to change just because of your whines so get your act together, go through the motions (whether you like it or not), practice with the "lousy" bikes just like everyone else did and are doing (mind you the bikes are barely two years old), pass your TP with flying colors, and take your 2A and 2 elsewhere.

 

That's your solution, or you could always start over elsewhere (with better bikes.......)

 

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[FireGunz]

The bikes are important, no doubt about that. No one is denying that fact. But nothing is going to change just because of your whines so get your act together, go through the motions (whether you like it or not), practice with the "lousy" bikes just like everyone else did and are doing (mind you the bikes are barely two years old), pass your TP with flying colors, and take your 2A and 2 elsewhere.

 

That's your solution, or you could always start over elsewhere (with better bikes.......)

 

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Awesome. True enough...

Give you 1 like!

 

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[rijac]

I heard instructor said last batch of TP test failed badly. Out of 50, only 15 passed, mostly immediately failures. I think the quality of the bikes must be pretty bad. Tried a few of them, some, the handle is very light like floating, some wheels tend to pull you to the side, some really bad clutches, and one bike foot brake like E-brake. CDC boasted on high percentage of theory tests passes while they kept numb on TP test passing rate.

 

During the TP test warm up from 7.15 am to 8.15 am, can you select and book your bike for the test? Taking mine in Oct. Any advice on how to reserved the bike.?

If you bothered to read all the tips and guidance from those of us who took the time and effort to share our experience you will get your answers. In any case the bikes were replaced in end 2013.

[rijac]

During the TP test warm up from 7.15 am to 8.15 am, can you select and book your bike for the test? Taking mine in Oct. Any advice on how to reserved the bike.?

No. It's a test not a joy ride

[rijac]

Aiyo guys, we need to move on with a Positive attitude towards helping to IMPROVE the society we live in.... Instead of comparing with the bad, would you not compare with the good to compel an improvement. Anyway we cannot expect TP test passing rates to be so low, considering the amount of money we paid and learn so little. We need them to properly maintain the bikes leh... Who the "How Lian" say any bikes also can ride, tell me, I pin the bike for him to ride thru the obstacles and do TP marking for him. Some bikes like to pull one side, inherently a wobble king, deduct 2 by 2 by 2 by 2 points until you bonkers.

 

So we say loudly... CDC PASSING RATE VERY LOW.... until they malu. If no malu, we compel the in charge men to henta kaki...

You expect to be passed just because you spent money on lessons? Why don't you just pay for the licence. No need to take test

[karedi]

You expect to be passed just because you spent money on lessons? Why don't you just pay for the licence. No need to take test

 

 

 

Ride on

[FireGunz]

You expect to be passed just because you spent money on lessons? Why don't you just pay for the licence. No need to take test

Me too... give you 1 like.

 

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[darkredmica]

Awesome. True enough...

Give you 1 like!

 

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Some people really can blame the heaven and earth for everything gone wrong (and right).

 

It's never their fault.

 

It's the bike, the instructors, the testers, the weather and everything but him or herself.

 

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[karedi]

Some people really can blame the heaven and earth for everything gone wrong (and right).

 

It's never their fault.

 

It's the bike, the instructors, the testers, the weather and everything but him or herself.

 

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Hahaha. And then they take the same mentality to the road. Everyone else is riding or driving badly. And they are the most perfect on the road.

 

 

Ride on

[ttkoh123]

You expect to be passed just because you spent money on lessons? Why don't you just pay for the licence. No need to take test

 

You got lobang or not. I don't mind paying. hahahahaha. I think you don't have... cause you failed your TP, remember.!

[ttkoh123]

Some people really can blame the heaven and earth for everything gone wrong (and right).

 

It's never their fault.

 

It's the bike, the instructors, the testers, the weather and everything but him or herself.

 

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She must be an instructor inside CDC, confirmed! wahlo lucky not under her....otherwise SI har!

[di_andrei]

She's right, quit your whining and practice on as many bikes as possible - you can't have everyone pick their ideal bike, and you can't have 60 identical bikes, that's just not possible. Yes, the bike can make a small difference, but overall rider skill is the determining factor. If there is something significantly wrong with your bike, after your warm-up you can ask the mechanic to have a look and have the bike changed. Brakes, biting point, clutch levers, tires - all these things will be variable.

[ttkoh123]

She's right, quit your whining and practice on as many bikes as possible - you can't have everyone pick their ideal bike, and you can't have 60 identical bikes, that's just not possible. Yes, the bike can make a small difference, but overall rider skill is the determining factor. If there is something significantly wrong with your bike, after your warm-up you can ask the mechanic to have a look and have the bike changed. Brakes, biting point, clutch levers, tires - all these things will be variable.

 

15 out of 50 passes is just not acceptable, tantamount to wasting Government license to operate as riding/driving school, better give it to the Japanese to operate the school, as least all the bikes will meet minimum standard before the test. Wonder whether the TP there has any quality standard imposed on CDC to maintain the acceptable standard to qualify to operate as a driving school. Let's malu and disturb the TP dept also after 11 Sep and make more whining to the ministries also. Cannot win them, but sure we can kajiao them mah.

Heard that CDC lease going to expire leh...

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[rijac]

You got lobang or not. I don't mind paying. hahahahaha. I think you don't have... cause you failed your TP, remember.!

In Malaysia can. I knew exactly why I failed on both occasions. Just sucked it up rebook and YMCA. didn't blame the tp or the bike or the rain.

[darkredmica]

15 out of 50 passes is just not acceptable, tantamount to wasting Government license to operate as diving school, better give it to the Japanese to operate the school, as least all the bikes will meet minimum standard before the test. Wonder whether the TP there has any quality standard imposed on CDC to maintain the acceptable standard to qualify to operate as a driving school. Let's malu and disturb the TP dept also after 11 Sep and make more whining to the ministries also. Cannot win them, but sure we can kajiao them mah.

Heard that CDC lease going to expire leh...

Yes it is not acceptable! How can there be only 15 out of 50 passes!?!?!?! How absurd!

 

Wonder what were the testees doing? Probably blaming the heaven and the earth as well instead of focusing their time and mentality on doing the test right.

 

Tp slots already so limited. This is tantamount to wasting precious slots which could have been given to testees with the right mentality towards riding, attitude towards learning and those who devote their time to revisions instead of grumblimg and blaming everything and everyone.

 

 

 

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[BabyBlade]

This thread is filled with so much previous tips from seniors like @rijac and @timewalker84 who painstakingly crafted each lesson flow for the better of future learners. I am grateful to have met these wonderful people in real life. Without them I may have given up from the start.

 

If you are here to seek advice, help and tips, many here are willing to share and will spend time explaining and clearly your doubts about a lesson. But if you have nothing to offer save for your blames and complaints, please take your blame and hate game elsewhere.

 

It's always easy to blame. You can spend your entire life blaming the world, but your successes and failures are entirely your own.

 

So please for the benefit of everyone here, focus on riding and quit your blame game.

 

Btw, I am @darkredmica.

[JrCherish]

If could use $$ for license. Might create more moron otr. When more moron, more chaos, more havoc, more jam.. and last but not least RTA. If more rta, more insurance claim involved. Bike mode insurance price increase. So, scold the moron who had buy it license or blame on rta.

 

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[Papabike]

This thread is filled with so much previous tips from seniors like @rijac and @timewalker84 who painstakingly crafted each lesson flow for the better of future learners. I am grateful to have met these wonderful people in real life. Without them I may have given up from the start.

 

If you are here to seek advice, help and tips, many here are willing to share and will spend time explaining and clearly your doubts about a lesson. But if you have nothing to offer save for your blames and complaints, please take your blame and hate game elsewhere.

 

It's always easy to blame. You can spend your entire life blaming the world, but your successes and failures are entirely your own.

 

So please for the benefit of everyone here, focus on riding and quit your blame game.

 

Btw, I am @darkredmica.

Sorry. Just a newbie question, are tips from rijac and timewalk84 all over the threads or at specific pages. So far, I read backwards till May 2015 only.

 

Thank you

 

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[darkredmica]

Sorry. Just a newbie question, are tips from rijac and timewalk84 all over the threads or at specific pages. So far, I read backwards till May 2015 only.

 

Thank you

 

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Right from the first post actually. 2013. Slowly read through them.

 

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[timewalker84]

Hi jbdoggy, thanks for sharing the passing rates during your time. We are all impressed. But if you read carefully, I said the recent last batch failed badly. Teaching and circumstances, these things are very dynamic in the real world. People changed. The purpose, to help them to improve by being critical. Yes, I appreciate your list of good bikes. Yes, you are real, some bike perform badly on plank.

 

For some others, I know, they like to profess their skills and relive their days of motorcycle glories, but they are of not much here, trying to impress with their skills and abilities to others. Frankly, I cannot understand their direction in life, motive or other intention. But looking at so many fellows learners at CDC frantically searching for Good Bikes, I say, get real, get a life, accept the fact that a Good maintained bikes makes a difference regardless of your skills. The question was simple, but it turns out into a self-advertisement opportunity for some.... hahahahahaha cheers!

 

TP testing is all about three factors: Luck, skill and the machine. If you've got more of one factor, you can compensate for the deficiencies in the others. Since you can't be absolutely certain that you'll get a good machine, or that you'll be blessed with favourable traffic or weather conditions, you should be doing the one thing you CAN do - hone your skills in order to reduce the unsystematic and uncontrollable risks posed by the other two. By going for more lessons and becoming a competent rider, you can ultimately become a competent rider with the skill needed to compensate for the worst luck, the worst conditions and the most nitpicky testers. You shouldn't be banking on getting a good machine in the hope that it will help you pass. If you do, each TP you go for will be a nerve-wracking gamble.

 

I told @darkredmica many years ago when she was a class 2B student not to go for the good bikes, and not to go only during good weather. I told her to select the crappiest possible bikes with ridiculously far biting points and suspicious alignment, and to go for practice in the thick of the rainy season. If you can thrive even in the worst conditions, you know you'll be one of the 15 out of 50 to attain that elusive pass. Now you can throw her out in a typhoon and give her the crappiest 2B bike, and she'll still be able to pass each station with one eye closed. That's the sort of competence you should aim for - to be able to take any rickety old bike out onto the circuit in a downpour and show a miserly, bitter group of old men that you deserve your license.

 

And the harshness of the TP test is well-justified. When riders finally get their 2B license, they often go for 10-year-old machines such as Vespas, SPs, KRRs and Kups. They take those unfamiliar, rickety machines out on the road, riding on slippery treacherous roads for half the year. When the strong crosswinds hit the island in the early part of the year, they rely only on their skills and instincts to keep them safe on their swaying 110kg 2B bikes. The raw dangers of riding make it imperative that only riders who have demonstrated the ability to overcome adverse conditions are given that elusive license. If you can't pass on any bike the school throws at you, or if a nitpicky TP decides that you don't deserve to pass, you probably don't.

 

So stop feeling bitter, take up your EZLink card for the commute to riding school and persevere on until you pass. Cheers and good luck!

[JrCherish]

Good questions. Find 2013 !!

 

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[JrCherish]

Crosswind.. dam fun when you are exiting highway with no traffic behind.

 

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