[cdc] 2b

[keyxblade]

If things have not changed, you will have to get RTT before u start on your road lessons. It's not just for TP I believe - to even be allowed to ride on Singapore roads as a student, you will need a PDL, which you can only get after passing RTT.

 

now change le. after BTT can get PDL go on road. RTT must complete before TP, they change RTT to something like Advance theory for car.

[huihuis]

I'm quite confused with the system compared to before and now, So I have to complete all theory lesson then take RTT before I could start my prac or it can be concurrent with my theory lessons?

[rijac]

the person at cdc told me i couldnt book my rtt till i complete my drt lessons. -.-

nabei.

 

Sorry my mistake. U need to complete theory and drt before booking rtt. See below for the flow.

 

http://www.cdc.com.sg/images/c2b_courseoutline1.gif

 

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[ah_lionel]

Yes Sunday was damn hot luh. But I would rather it be that way than to rain I guess?? Or maybe drizzle. OR unless I have my own raincoat then I wouldn't mind if it rains slightly heavier. Haha.

 

I have sunburns from Sunday's lessons. On my arms. Only my elbow area is spared due to the elbow guards. Now I have uneven "tanned lines".

 

Haa.. still have not got your own raincoat?

 

You can consider this during normal sunny day - arm sleeves

LAB selling $5, Gmarket selling aso $5(take 2-3weeks to deliver)

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[rijac]

Gang. For finally cleared my plank this morning. Aiyo I nearly didn't make it. Actually I had a lesson yesterday but was sick so didn't go. Burn 24 bucks. But when I checked I found there was a slot at 8.30 this morning so I booked. Then I could not get a cab! I finally reach at 8.55. Rang the bell no one came. I was about to leave then I decided to try my luck and went to the bike park area. They said ok. Gear up. Phew! I was lucky only 1 other lesson 4 guy there. And my instructor was sharp. He watch me once. I went off the plank. He told me just use the handle bar left right to keep front wheel in center of plank, keep light pressure on rear brake. Second round cleared and he said next round apply more brake then he left and didn't see me do the third try. Fourth try was another guy at the station.

 

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[Metalskin]

When are you all taking lesson 2 again. Lol

[rijac]

When are you all taking lesson 2 again. Lol

 

U all quickly catch up la. I slow down so much liao than we can go road lesson together gether

 

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[lovewei]

Normally how many lessons 1 you guys took? the earliest booking date for me was 25 Jun.. so dam far away from now -_-

 

 

P.S Circuit training/ Orientation is a waste of time and money !

[rijac]

Normally how many lessons 1 you guys took? the earliest booking date for me was 25 Jun.. so dam far away from now -_-

 

 

P.S Circuit training/ Orientation is a waste of time and money !

 

Why so far? No slots or slot not suitable?

 

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[lovewei]

Ha i just got my PDL today... it was the earliest available booking in the afternoon

[rijac]

Ha i just got my PDL today... it was the earliest available booking in the afternoon

 

Keep checking more will open up as ppl start cancellation. There are ppl like me will book 2 or 3 sessions then cancel after passing

 

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[Metalskin]

I book 2 sessions in one go. Make sure it is 48hours between both slot.

And then pray for people to cancel their slot so that I can book.

I took two lesson to pass lesson one.

 

Rijac: I trying to take ASAP. But the schedule really CMI.

[rijac]

Did a circuit revision today. Just finish. Quite fun lah. You just go around on your own. Lots of slot available. In fact if u pass lesson 4 at 10am u can book in the afternoon of the same day. U all tell me your lesson schedule la. I book circuit revision same time can kpkb together. After this got theory 1 and 2.

 

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[rijac]

The stupid air con in CDC level 2 room 3 made sick last week and tonight again. First time taking panadol using water cooler...

 

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[lovewei]

The stupid air con in CDC level 2 room 3 made sick last week and tonight again. First time taking panadol using water cooler...

 

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Take care man haha hoping someone will cancel their slot this week so i can book.. if not gotta wait till nxt week.. damn

[rijac]

Take care man haha hoping someone will cancel their slot this week so i can book.. if not gotta wait till nxt week.. damn

 

Thanks. Tomorrow another 3 hours. Will bring jacket. The lessons quite boring but good nuggets of information. Like trick questions etc.

 

No car to use today... — now on bus.. — also cold!

 

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[Metalskin]

Thanks. Tomorrow another 3 hours. Will bring jacket. The lessons quite boring but good nuggets of information. Like trick questions etc.

 

No car to use today... — now on bus.. — also cold!

 

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Oh my theory lesson is whole of next week 20May to 23 May, i chiong all the lesson

[rijac]

dress for cold. terok lah the place.

[rijac]

ok guys. to share on Lesson 4 now that I have passed.

 

For Lesson 4 they will break into 2 parts. Plank + Slalom together and e-brake. different instructor do it differently, but in general, they will break up the class into 2 groups - first timer and repeat. Repeat people just go straight to the stations and practice first. First timer will be taken around and given detailed briefing on plank and slalom first (this might take up 10 to 20 minutes of your lesson time). After that you will get to try plank and slalom a few rounds (the number of times depends on traffic and queing time). Once you have done this for half of the lesson time, they will ask you stop go to the ebrake area and get another 10 to 15 minute briefing. then you will have to do all 3 courses over and over. but in reality probably get to do 3 or 4 times only due to queing. note that you will be sharing the stations with course revision as well as 2a and 2 people hor.

 

Now on to the details.

 

For Plank, you have to ride over to the station, signal left and filter into the side lane. up to the start line of the plank there should only be 2 bikes in line. then behind the first two bikes form up into two lines. when the first bike moves off, the second bike move up and one of the 2 bikes in the que moves up to become the second bike, as per lesson 2, communicate with each other on who goes first (first come first serve usually la)

 

remember to turn off signal once you come to a stop. to do the plank, the technique which worked for me after 4 lessons!!! is like this. i move of with half clutch and keep my foot on the brake pedal lightly. once i reach the plank i concentrate on looking forward but down at the center of the plank (some ppl say look far but that wasn't working for me). grip the tank with knees and use the handble bar to steer the front tyre so it is always in the center of the plank. my mistake was using my body to counter act the movement of the bike like as if riding normally. so i keep this thought in my mind now when i do plank - front wheel keep in center of plank, half clutch the whole way and press foot brake to control speed. i realised if i press the foot brake so hard that the bike stops moving but i continue to rev the throttle slightly and maintain half clutch the bike stays upright, if i keep turning the handlebar left and right.

 

after clearing the plank (must stay one minimum 6 seconds), stop before the white line. Check back to the right then move off immediately to do the slalom. Start on the right of the first cone. for slalom, there are different ways to do it and i'm still trying to decide what works best for me. i'm ok with it in general and have not knocked any cone down in all of my 4 lesson 4. Shift up to gear 2 as quickly as possible, before reaching the first cone. stay a bit wide of the cones to avoid knocking them - if you think about clearing your handlebar width, you won't knock the cones with your crash bar coz they are about the same width. don't look down, look forward. the way i do the cone is throttle up in second gear, foot on the brake pedal to control speed. after clearing the last cone - no need to stop unless you knocked one over. then stop and go put it back!

 

For ebrake, you ride up to the start line. if you are going there straight from slalom, no need to filter onto the road, just stay in the lane and go straight (unless there is a L car in the lane - there usually is for some reason - then signal right, filter out, overtake car, signal left, filter in).

 

From the start line check back to the right. Accelerate fast shift to gear 2 accelerate fast shift to gear 3 and from the bottom of your eyes see if the yellow light in the middle of the handle bar comes on (this indicates you crossed 30kmh) then maintain speed. as you approach the end you will see a lamp post on the left just before the braking area (which will be wet). as you pass the post, close throttle (don't clutch in, don't change gear, don't brake). a split second later as you pass a cone on your left, brake with your front and rear brakes together (more pressure on front, but don't jam)... as the bike starts to slow, squeeze harder on the front brake and just before you come to a stop before the line, clutch in. left foot down.

 

do not change gear down while braking (this is different from all other stopping that you have learned so far). that means when you stop you will be in 3rd gear and you will have the clutch in, your left foot on the ground, your hear pumping 1000 beats a minute... NEXT

 

check back to the RIGHT. put RIGHT foot down. change gear to 1st gear - often the gear will be stuck, release clutch halfway then you will feel the pedal give way then continue to change gear down. after changing gear to first gear, Check back to the LEFT, put LEFT foot down. Right foot on brakes, signal right, check back to the RIGHT, move off as usual. do not need to go over the bumpy course. at the end of the exit lane, be careful, there is a double white line on the right... then a bit further is the filter line. filter in by checking blind spot to the right. keep signal right as you need to turn right, as you cross the arrow on the road, check blind spot to the right (TP will watch you from the time you finish your brake to this point of the turn).

 

Like that lah. In my next post i will outline the whole circuit route procedures. That one you will be briefied when you go for circuit revision.

[keyxblade]

ok guys. to share on Lesson 4 now that I have passed.

 

For Lesson 4 they will break into 2 parts. Plank + Slalom together and e-brake. different instructor do it differently, but in general, they will break up the class into 2 groups - first timer and repeat. Repeat people just go straight to the stations and practice first. First timer will be taken around and given detailed briefing on plank and slalom first (this might take up 10 to 20 minutes of your lesson time). After that you will get to try plank and slalom a few rounds (the number of times depends on traffic and queing time). Once you have done this for half of the lesson time, they will ask you stop go to the ebrake area and get another 10 to 15 minute briefing. then you will have to do all 3 courses over and over. but in reality probably get to do 3 or 4 times only due to queing. note that you will be sharing the stations with course revision as well as 2a and 2 people hor.

 

Now on to the details.

 

For Plank, you have to ride over to the station, signal left and filter into the side lane. up to the start line of the plank there should only be 2 bikes in line. then behind the first two bikes form up into two lines. when the first bike moves off, the second bike move up and one of the 2 bikes in the que moves up to become the second bike, as per lesson 2, communicate with each other on who goes first (first come first serve usually la)

 

remember to turn off signal once you come to a stop. to do the plank, the technique which worked for me after 4 lessons!!! is like this. i move of with half clutch and keep my foot on the brake pedal lightly. once i reach the plank i concentrate on looking forward but down at the center of the plank (some ppl say look far but that wasn't working for me). grip the tank with knees and use the handble bar to steer the front tyre so it is always in the center of the plank. my mistake was using my body to counter act the movement of the bike like as if riding normally. so i keep this thought in my mind now when i do plank - front wheel keep in center of plank, half clutch the whole way and press foot brake to control speed. i realised if i press the foot brake so hard that the bike stops moving but i continue to rev the throttle slightly and maintain half clutch the bike stays upright, if i keep turning the handlebar left and right.

 

after clearing the plank (must stay one minimum 6 seconds), stop before the white line. Check back to the right then move off immediately to do the slalom. Start on the right of the first cone. for slalom, there are different ways to do it and i'm still trying to decide what works best for me. i'm ok with it in general and have not knocked any cone down in all of my 4 lesson 4. Shift up to gear 2 as quickly as possible, before reaching the first cone. stay a bit wide of the cones to avoid knocking them - if you think about clearing your handlebar width, you won't knock the cones with your crash bar coz they are about the same width. don't look down, look forward. the way i do the cone is throttle up in second gear, foot on the brake pedal to control speed. after clearing the last cone - no need to stop unless you knocked one over. then stop and go put it back!

 

For ebrake, you ride up to the start line. if you are going there straight from slalom, no need to filter onto the road, just stay in the lane and go straight (unless there is a L car in the lane - there usually is for some reason - then signal right, filter out, overtake car, signal left, filter in).

 

From the start line check back to the right. Accelerate fast shift to gear 2 accelerate fast shift to gear 3 and from the bottom of your eyes see if the yellow light in the middle of the handle bar comes on (this indicates you crossed 30kmh) then maintain speed. as you approach the end you will see a lamp post on the left just before the braking area (which will be wet). as you pass the post, close throttle (don't clutch in, don't change gear, don't brake). a split second later as you pass a cone on your left, brake with your front and rear brakes together (more pressure on front, but don't jam)... as the bike starts to slow, squeeze harder on the front brake and just before you come to a stop before the line, clutch in. left foot down.

 

do not change gear down while braking (this is different from all other stopping that you have learned so far). that means when you stop you will be in 3rd gear and you will have the clutch in, your left foot on the ground, your hear pumping 1000 beats a minute... NEXT

 

check back to the RIGHT. put RIGHT foot down. change gear to 1st gear - often the gear will be stuck, release clutch halfway then you will feel the pedal give way then continue to change gear down. after changing gear to first gear, Check back to the LEFT, put LEFT foot down. Right foot on brakes, signal right, check back to the RIGHT, move off as usual. do not need to go over the bumpy course. at the end of the exit lane, be careful, there is a double white line on the right... then a bit further is the filter line. filter in by checking blind spot to the right. keep signal right as you need to turn right, as you cross the arrow on the road, check blind spot to the right (TP will watch you from the time you finish your brake to this point of the turn).

 

Like that lah. In my next post i will outline the whole circuit route procedures. That one you will be briefied when you go for circuit revision.

 

Thanks!! nice information. i use the same technique for plank i dont look far like most ppl do. but dont need to press brake until going to stop, 6 sec can just go slow, it is not like class 2 10sec. Do you have any tips on lesson 3? my friend is stuck at lesson 3

[rijac]

Ur friend stuck at slope or figure 8?

 

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[keyxblade]

Ur friend stuck at slope or figure 8?

 

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stuck at figure 8, slope still okay, forgot to signal

[rijac]

oh. figure 8 i use the same technique as slalom - knee grip tank, gear 2, constant throttle and use rear brake to control speed. must lean the bike to take the curves otherwise will be too slow. and look ahead to the center part of the figure 8 where the lanes cross - basically look where you want to go and you will be better balanced. if you look down you won't be able to anticipate when to change direction or adjust speed. its ok if you hear the brake squeeking or groaning.

[fat-lip]

Normally when you guys go for Practical, do you guys bring just the Training Record Book, along with Helmet and pads? As in, just the Training Record Book is enough, right? Don't need to bring the Motorcycle Rider Handbook?

[keyxblade]

oh. figure 8 i use the same technique as slalom - knee grip tank, gear 2, constant throttle and use rear brake to control speed. must lean the bike to take the curves otherwise will be too slow. and look ahead to the center part of the figure 8 where the lanes cross - basically look where you want to go and you will be better balanced. if you look down you won't be able to anticipate when to change direction or

adjust speed. its ok if you hear the brake squeeking or groaning.

 

Thanks for the info