Honda wave

[nite_fire]

Originally posted by Pauche@Mar 18 2004, 09:04 AM

wave got NO oil filter.

maybe u ask him show u where it is next time if he insist got.

end up he sure point to u the air filter and say he pronounced air and oil filter wrongly!!!

hmmm... by the way where is the air filter huh? i ask the mech they said my KRISS doesn't have air filter... i think should have rite? cos i feel that no matter how hardworking i do servicing, it still like something doesn't go well.... my plug always quite dirty even just run for a while... think the combustion not complete... anybody can help me? how to tune huh? thanks in advance...

[enow]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 18 2004, 10:55 PM

sounds quite alright to me

except the tyre inner tube....

tink costs ard $6 per tube in spore or smth...

let me know the effect of the rear shock raiser after u go it k? thks!

now when i use my main stand the rear wheel will touch the ground, so not much use for main stand anymore.

in terms of riding, could bend lower in corners, might be the profile of the new tyres???

[nite_fire]

Originally posted by mysterio@Mar 18 2004, 09:06 PM

Hi,

 

thnx! I change the oil i oso forgot wat type liao ... but i think its the cheaper one cos it cost RM14 only. the drum pad they quote me is original honda one they claim. I oso feel that there is a tendency for them to chop Spore bikes if u are not regular there.

 

I may want to change Air filter and chain liao, u noe the price of these 2 items? Thnx in advance!

so far i didn't know anything about air filter, cos i was told that my kriss got no air filter... i don't know i should believe it or not, ahah.. anyway for chain should be below RM20, for this price should can get quite good one already. last time i change my spocket and chain together cost me RM38 inclusive of workmanship.. by the way they can anyhow say that the parts are original for honda, how they verify? by the way last time i change my drum brake, i was told that the original brake pad is better, what it means by "Original"? funny sia, my kriss original brake pad is a Suzuki RGV brake pad! some more last time when i change my oil filter, the boss said if you want good one is RM10, normal one is RM6, what's the difference? i think when the filter go in, end up still soak with the oil? only the price difference bah! sometimes they will quote you with 2 prices, say if you want good one pay for higher price, but actually maybe they will take out the same thing from their store and sell you with the higher price AS YOUR REQUEST!

[nite_fire]

Originally posted by enow@Mar 18 2004, 09:58 PM

some item price info from JB Boy inclusive installation.

 

All prices in RM

 

Coloured rims + coloured spokes : $200

Michelin pilt sporty (MIT) : $120

New tube : $20

Exhaust cover (coloured) : $40

Rear shock raiser : $30

Rear brake bracket??? : $15

Spray paint for rim center Hub??? : $20

Chain guard : $20

 

he charge me total $450

 

are the prices reasonable?

new tube? you mean the inner tyre tube? last time i changed once for a good one which is from korea, that one long long time only need to pump air once leh. cost me RM11 each only. don't get chopped hehehe....

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 18 2004, 10:35 PM

hrmmz?

thot i read in the other thread that sikolene or something also uses the ester technology as well?

havent tried fuchs before...so far only did 2 oil change to my bike

1. castrol activ-x (w/ syn particles)

2. idemitsu (mineral oil)

 

currently in queue...

1. castrol r4 (fully syn)

2. motul5100 (supposed to be fully syn)

Only 2 companies so far use ESTER for their 4Ts. MOTUL and FUCHS SILKOLENE. Should try SILKOLENE. I heard it's better than motul.

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by ooniq@Mar 18 2004, 05:54 AM

wah don^, so long quiet suddenly come up with so many posts

:faint:

 

RxzDelux, u never sleep one ah? always saw u post till early2 in the morning

Yah I never sleep! HaHaHa. Become DraCula already. Heheheheh

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by ooniq@Mar 18 2004, 04:12 PM

hehehe ... i guess the whole tong finished up when ppl saw the thread

what's the $8 one?

Not quite sure abt THAT but me not interested so don't bother to ask anymore! If u like to know call them la.

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 18 2004, 10:35 PM

hrmmz?

thot i read in the other thread that sikolene or something also uses the ester technology as well?

havent tried fuchs before...so far only did 2 oil change to my bike

1. castrol activ-x (w/ syn particles)

2. idemitsu (mineral oil)

 

currently in queue...

1. castrol r4 (fully syn)

2. motul5100 (supposed to be fully syn)

I prefer the no.2 motul5100 then the no.1 Castrol R4. Well it's individual preference really!

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by Bunta@Mar 18 2004, 10:55 PM

guys, why don't we start a consolidated price list guide? remember to state the place and the price of the item? remember, it must be the things u actually bought or ask, NOT heard from ppl or something else.. feel free to add in or edit if u have some suggestions..

 

1) Tyres, Wheels & Brak Pads

Coloured rims + coloured spokes : $200 ( JB Ah boy )

Michelin pilot sport : $120 ( JB Ah boy )

New tyre tube : $20 ( JB Ah boy )

Honda Thai original brake pads for Wave : $18 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

 

2) Engine Oil & Spark Plugs

Motul Semi Syn : $9 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

Motul Full Syn 5100 : $20 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

 

3) Helmet Boxes

Givi simply E460 : $250 ( LAB )

 

 

4) Chain & Sprockets

Rxz original 520 chain : $40 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

5) Misc Accessories

Exhaust cover coloured : $40 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear shock raiser : $30 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear brake bracket : $15 ( JB Ah boy )

Spray paint for rim centre hub : $20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard : $20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard DIY : $10 ( LAB )

Motul Semi Syn : $9 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

Bunta Which motul is this??? IS it the 3000+?

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 18 2004, 10:55 PM

sounds quite alright to me

except the tyre inner tube....

tink costs ard $6 per tube in spore or smth...

let me know the effect of the rear shock raiser after u go it k? thks!

Inner TUBE $6? Where u BUY??

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by RxzDelux@Mar 19 2004, 12:55 AM

Not quite sure abt THAT but me not interested so don't bother to ask anymore! If u like to know call them la.

Because me now using $5.15 mineral engine oil.

[RxzDelux]

Brief explanation on ester base engine oil.

 

In the simplest terms, esters can be defined as the reaction products of acids and alcohols. Thousands of different kinds of esters are commercially produced for a broad range of applications. Within the realm of synthetic lubrication, a relatively small but still substantial family of esters have been found to be very useful in severe environment applications. This paper shall provide a general overview of the more common esters used in synthetic lubricants and discuss their important benefits and utilities.

 

Esters have been used successfully in lubrication for more than 50 years and are the preferred stock in many severe applications where their benefits solve problems or bring value. For example, esters have been used exclusively in jet engine lubricants worldwide for over 40 years due to their unique combination of low temperature flowability with clean high temperature operation. Esters are also the preferred stock in the new synthetic refrigeration lubricants used with CFC replacement refrigerants. Here the combination of branching and polarity make the esters miscible with the HFC refrigerants and improves both low and high temperature performance characteristics. In automotive applications, the first qualified synthetic crankcase motor oils were based entirely on esters and these products were quite successful when properly formulated. Esters have given way to PAOs in this application due to PAOs lower cost and their formulating similarities to mineral oil. Nevertheless, esters are nearly always used in combination with PAOs in full synthetic motor oils in order to balance the effect on seals, solubilize additives, reduce volatility, and improve energy efficiency through higher lubricity. The percentage of ester used in motor oils can vary anywhere from 5 to 25% depending upon the desired properties and the type of ester employed.

 

The new frontier for esters is the industrial marketplace where the number of products, applications, and operating conditions is enormous. In many cases, the very same equipment which operates satisfactorily on mineral oil in one plant could benefit greatly from the use of an ester lubricant in another plant where the equipment is operated under more severe conditions. This is a marketplace where old problems or new challenges can arise at any time or any location. The high performance properties and custom design versatility of esters is ideally suited to solve these problems. Ester lubricants have already captured certain niches in the industrial market such as reciprocating air compressors and high temperature industrial oven chain lubricants. When one focuses on high temperature extremes and their telltale signs such as smoking, wear, and deposits, the potential applications for the problem solving ester lubricants are virtually endless.

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by nite_fire@Mar 18 2004, 07:32 AM

ya i hate that....sometimes i didn't see then i think they have eat up my remaining oil... then suddenly got one day i purposely see the mech he poured the oil then i think still got about 2/3 of the oil remain. then i asked him why didn't finish it. then he said i didn't change my oil filter inside there still got another about 200 to 300ml of old oil. pls don't be cheated by this kind of things! last time i was happened just changed the oil filter but didn't change the engine oil cos i just changed it few days ago, that was another shop, only few drops of oil came out only! that means inside there actually not much old oil remain there. then end up i request to take the bottle and i go home and poured it by myself. i really hate those mech who act like very expert actually they know nothing still want to cheat us.

 

What he said is partly true. This applies mostly to 4-stroke bike such as bigger 400CC bikes where there is still engine oil in the filter. Don't get it wrong. For wave im not sure if there is oil filter, but if there is, then what he says is true. Pouring the whole bottle in might cause an overflow of engine oil. This happens to rxz which is 600cc of engine oil. If a full 1 litre is poured in, engine oil will overflow and would be visible near the exhaust header. I have no experience with wave to confirm anything.

[ooniq]

motul 5100 is semi syn cost SGD12

motul 300 is fully syn cost SGD20

[ooniq]

Originally posted by d0n^@Mar 18 2004, 10:48 PM

hahaa

went for 3day 2 night chalet at pasir ris mah

clocked quite some mileage there roaming ard the streets of changi to look at bapoks and liak gao

so how's the bapoks at changi?? wanna go eat nasi lemak

[ooniq]

Originally posted by nite_fire@Mar 19 2004, 12:06 AM

so far i didn't know anything about air filter, cos i was told that my kriss got no air filter... i don't know i should believe it or not, ahah.. anyway for chain should be below RM20, for this price should can get quite good one already. last time i change my spocket and chain together cost me RM38 inclusive of workmanship.. by the way they can anyhow say that the parts are original for honda, how they verify? by the way last time i change my drum brake, i was told that the original brake pad is better, what it means by "Original"? funny sia, my kriss original brake pad is a Suzuki RGV brake pad! some more last time when i change my oil filter, the boss said if you want good one is RM10, normal one is RM6, what's the difference? i think when the filter go in, end up still soak with the oil? only the price difference bah! sometimes they will quote you with 2 prices, say if you want good one pay for higher price, but actually maybe they will take out the same thing from their store and sell you with the higher price AS YOUR REQUEST!

air filter sure to have right? if not dirty air will go in ur carb

[ooniq]

1) Tyres, Wheels & Brak Pads

Coloured rims + coloured spokes : RM200 ( JB Ah boy )

Sport rims(3 spoke)- RM430 (JB lab)

Michelin pilot sport / Dunlop TT900 : RM120 ( JB Ah boy )

New tyre tube : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Honda Thai original brake pads for Wave : $18 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

front brake pad = RM20+ (JB lab)

rear brake pad = RM30+ (JB lab)

Posh wave disc brake : RM180

Front steel braided line (Rxz) : RM40

Rear steel braided line : RM15

 

 

2) Engine Oil & Spark Plugs

Motul Semi Syn : $9 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

Motul 300 Full Syn : $20 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

FUCH SEMI 20-50 = $ 5 (Pleasure Motorsports)

oil and plug = RM26 (JB lab)

 

 

3) Helmet Boxes

Givi simply E460 : $250 ( LAB )

 

 

4) Chain & Sprockets

Rxz original 520 chain : $40 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

5) Misc Accessories

Exhaust cover coloured : RM40 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear shock raiser : RM30 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear brake bracket : RM15 ( JB Ah boy )

Spray paint for rim centre hub (free with purchase of rims) : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard DIY : $10 ( LAB )

Basket webbing : $3 (LAB)

Rear shock : $50 (Eunos superbike), RM70, 75, 100, 160 (JB lab)

[ooniq]

anybody changed his air filter? got any different? must rejet cos of different air/fuel mixture right?

[fhsook]

Originally posted by ooniq@Mar 19 2004, 09:25 AM

1) Tyres, Wheels & Brak Pads

Coloured rims + coloured spokes : RM200 ( JB Ah boy )

Sport rims(3 spoke)- RM430 (JB lab)

Michelin pilot sport / Dunlop TT900 : RM120 ( JB Ah boy )

New tyre tube : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Honda Thai original brake pads for Wave : $18 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

front brake pad = RM20+ (JB lab)

rear brake pad = RM30+ (JB lab)

Posh wave disc brake : RM180

Front steel braided line (Rxz) : RM40

Rear steel braided line : RM15

 

 

2) Engine Oil & Spark Plugs

Motul Semi Syn : $9 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

Motul 300 Full Syn : $20 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

FUCH SEMI 20-50 = $ 5 (Pleasure Motorsports)

oil and plug = RM26 (JB lab)

 

 

3) Helmet Boxes

Givi simply E460 : $250 ( LAB )

 

 

4) Chain & Sprockets

Rxz original 520 chain : $40 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

5) Misc Accessories

Exhaust cover coloured : RM40 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear shock raiser : RM30 ( JB Ah boy )

Rear brake bracket : RM15 ( JB Ah boy )

Spray paint for rim centre hub (free with purchase of rims) : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard : RM20 ( JB Ah boy )

Chain Guard DIY : $10 ( LAB )

Basket webbing : $3 (LAB)

Rear shock : $50 (Eunos superbike), RM70, 75, 100, 160 (JB lab)

After seeing the price list u all put, i m hapi that i change the pilot sporty and rear brake pad @ Bukit Batok, SG paying the same price as Guo Hui (after conversion). Save my trouble of goin in JB juz to change 1 thing or 2. :cheer:

 

Team 500 Blue

[ooniq]

that's wat the list for so we can compare and save... :thumb:

[Xiaozhu]

Originally posted by ooniq@Mar 19 2004, 09:27 AM

anybody changed his air filter? got any different? must rejet cos of different air/fuel mixture right?

You want? I sell u mine at half price.

[Bunta]

1) Tyres, Wheels & Brake Pads

Coloured rims + coloured spokes = RM200 ( JB LAB )

Sport rims(3 spoke) = RM430 ( JB LAB )

Michelin pilot sport / Dunlop TT900 = RM120 ( JB LAB )

New tyre tube = RM20 ( JB LAB )

Honda Thai original brake pads for Wave = $18 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

front brake pad = RM20+ ( JB LAB )

rear brake pad = RM30+ ( JB LAB )

Posh wave disc brake = RM180

Front steel braided line (Rxz) = RM40

Rear steel braided line = RM15

 

 

2) Engine Oil & Spark Plugs

Motul 3000 Semi Syn = $9 (Mah motors Jln Besar)

Motul 5100 Full Syn = $20 (Mah motors Jln Besar)

FUCH SEMI 20-50 = $ 5 (Pleasure Motorsports) ( OUT OF STOCK )

Oil and plug = RM26 (JB LAB)

 

 

3) Helmet Boxes

Givi simply E460 = $250 ( LAB )

 

 

4) Chain & Sprockets

Rxz original 520 chain = $40 ( Mah motors Jln Besar )

 

 

5) Misc Accessories

Exhaust cover coloured = RM40 ( JB LAB )

Rear shock raiser = RM30 ( JB LAB )

Rear brake bracket = RM15 ( JB LAB )

Spray paint for rim centre hub (free with purchase of rims) : RM20 ( JB LAB )

Chain Guard : RM20 ( JB LAB )

Chain Guard DIY : $10 ( LAB )

Basket webbing : $3 (LAB)

Rear shock : $50 (Eunos superbike), RM70, 75, 100, 160 (JB LAB)

 

Ok, edited with some changes..

[RxzDelux]

FUCH SEMI 20-50 = $ 5 (Pleasure Motorsports)

:weep:

[d0n]

Originally posted by nite_fire@Mar 18 2004, 11:47 PM

yeah i change my plug and oil by myself... just that day i was in a hurry... then i don't have the screw driver to take out my oil filter cos maybe im gonna change to singapore bike soon, so i don't really bother to buy one. then when i wanna change my oil filter then only let them change loh. i also add the battery water by myself.

hrmz

talking abt battery water

heard dat wave125 come w/ drycell by default instead of wet cell

is that true??

too lazy to go take a peek at the battery myself

[d0n]

Originally posted by enow@Mar 19 2004, 12:00 AM

now when i use my main stand the rear wheel will touch the ground, so not much use for main stand anymore.

in terms of riding, could bend lower in corners, might be the profile of the new tyres???

wah.....

so it has the effect of pushing the tail down instead of lifting it up?