[Group] Super Four Bol'dor Riders

[Ones_Co]

Originally posted by tt6389@March 19, 2007 09:28 am

thot go taman U shopping plus big lake hunting on 7th april. You off that day?

So comfirm on the 7 april going for the lake ??

 

Go for the Noodle at kulai first before going to the lake....

 

i think on the way back than go taman U

 

so it will be as follow

 

1) kulai

2) Lake

3) taman U

4) GP for dinner...

 

wat u guys think of this plan ???

 

or any other plan u guys have ??

[tt6389]

Originally posted by Ones_Co@March 19, 2007 10:14 am

So comfirm on the 7 april going for the lake ??

 

Go for the Noodle at kulai first before going to the lake....

 

i think on the way back than go taman U

 

so it will be as follow

 

1) kulai

2) Lake

3) taman U

4) GP for dinner...

 

wat u guys think of this plan ???

 

or any other plan u guys have ??

I thinking 10am departs for Taman U. At 12pm departs for kulai noodle lunch, then go Lake. After lake return to GP to wash bike (bike wash close at 7pm) . Then dinner at GP.

 

[UnIoNbIkEz]

Wow! long time didnt post here... Tis thread has become Bold'Orians road-trip thread huh UpZ

[UnIoNbIkEz]

Originally posted by daydream@March 19, 2007 03:44 am

any1 using bt 020 tiremine is ab 1 mth old but its grip is not tt good leh...will kind so skit when corner and i even skit a fall @ cre8tive carpark slope i find it kindda lousyleh

 

so wanna see hows the rest bt020 doing ??

 

and m1 & m3 reali worth tt price??

BT020 is a hard compound tyres, gd for long trip coz its long lasting..... but if u prefer cornering grips, i suggest tat u try a Michelin Pilot Power although i'm using Metzeler Sportec M3 coz previously using M1 & trusted Metzeler

[FOXY]

if 7 th is a sat i dont mind lor

haha

slow and steady wins the race

[FOXY]

anyway can you see my state it is only p plate lor u class 2 le

[Smyles]

Originally posted by daydream@March 18, 2007 07:25 pm

290 km wif a box and everythingstock

Consumption would depend a lot on whether you do a highway versus city riding - constant speed on major roads much better consumption naturally ....

[Smyles]

Originally posted by Lass@March 18, 2007 08:49 pm

woah equivalent to machine price of a 600 sports bike!

 

so when u move bk, wat bike u planning to get?

Lass,

 

The Hornet is pretty much a naked sports bike. It has a sports bike engine from the CBR, but is tuned to be more manageable and with a wider gear box.

 

The handling is fantastic, very similar to a sports bike.

 

Not sure what I would buy in England - England isn't really good for regular riding cus of the whether. Can ride from April to September unless prepared for cold, then wet, then icy roads - yuck!! So in England need a car plus a bike - will buy crappy car and good bike I guess ;-)

[Lass]

Originally posted by Smyles@March 19, 2007 07:16 pm

Lass,

 

The Hornet is pretty much a naked sports bike. It has a sports bike engine from the CBR, but is tuned to be more manageable and with a wider gear box.

 

The handling is fantastic, very similar to a sports bike.

 

Not sure what I would buy in England - England isn't really good for regular riding cus of the whether. Can ride from April to September unless prepared for cold, then wet, then icy roads - yuck!! So in England need a car plus a bike - will buy crappy car and good bike I guess ;-)

dun hv to convince me, i like e hornet alrite hehe

 

hmm guess when u hv e cold weather, u can wear fanciful riding jackets and look pretty smart in it. over here, am only w a mesh jacket and am already in a pool of perspiration when i arrive at destination.

 

good bike & crappy car? boy! am i not surprised!

[pktan]

Originally posted by Smyles@March 19, 2007 07:16 pm

Lass,

 

The Hornet is pretty much a naked sports bike. It has a sports bike engine from the CBR, but is tuned to be more manageable and with a wider gear box.

 

The handling is fantastic, very similar to a sports bike.

 

Not sure what I would buy in England - England isn't really good for regular riding cus of the whether. Can ride from April to September unless prepared for cold, then wet, then icy roads - yuck!! So in England need a car plus a bike - will buy crappy car and good bike I guess ;-)

Come On, bike & car over there are much much cheaper... only problem is to buy petrol. Guess that's why some people is using vege cooking oil there.

[FOXY]

Originally posted by Ones_Co@March 19, 2007 10:14 am

So comfirm on the 7 april going for the lake ??

 

Go for the Noodle at kulai first before going to the lake....

 

i think on the way back than go taman U

 

so it will be as follow

 

1) kulai

2) Lake

3) taman U

4) GP for dinner...

 

wat u guys think of this plan ???

 

or any other plan u guys have ??

ok whose going ?

if sat i dont mind lor

[FOXY]

this sat got coffee session ?

[FOXY]

Ones_Co

 

u got contact jerry , alfred and eric for the lake trip ?

[khookahkiat]

Originally posted by ^FOXY^@March 19, 2007 04:03 am

k3 faster get cl2 we go see big lake together ok ?

hahaha... steady onnnzzz!

 

on a happy note, just cleared lesson 1 today on my first attempt. lesson 2's on fri...

[Lass]

Originally posted by pktan@March 20, 2007 12:48 am

Come On, bike & car over there are much much cheaper... only problem is to buy petrol. Guess that's why some people is using vege cooking oil there.

haha vege cooking oil not bad eh? might as well run on solar power lagi no need spend money keke

[FOXY]

Originally posted by pktan@March 19, 2007 09:22 am

wah bro, dun like tat ler, i still using 2a bike oh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol. pulling ur leg okay? he he

nv say like that he will slack like me lor i take 10 months to clear my class 2.

[h_LoNg]

Originally posted by Lass@March 18, 2007 10:52 am

andextan & ah long : personally i think, e FC shd not be a major concern, unless it's a major differentiation from e norm. how much ur FC is due to alot of factors and different ppl hv diff riding styles and speed. just sharing my personal tots.

For mi, fuel comsumption is a factor to consider but not a major one.

 

Its the suitability of the bike that matters most.

 

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K3, how much are u looking for? also, wat accessories, aftermarket parts u have on ur s4?

[Ones_Co]

Originally posted by ^FOXY^@March 20, 2007 01:31 am

Ones_Co

 

u got contact jerry , alfred and eric for the lake trip ?

i had told them but have not comfirm with them on the time and date.

 

so when u see them u tell them...

[Ones_Co]

Originally posted by tt6389@March 19, 2007 12:09 pm

I thinking 10am departs for Taman U. At 12pm departs for kulai noodle lunch, then go Lake. After lake return to GP to wash bike (bike wash close at 7pm) . Then dinner at GP.

 

ok than ....

 

anyone else got anything to add ???

[khookahkiat]

Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 20, 2007 11:09 am

For mi, fuel comsumption is a factor to consider but not a major one.

 

Its the suitability of the bike that matters most.

 

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K3, how much are u looking for? also, wat accessories, aftermarket parts u have on ur s4?

Errm... lemme see...

 

1) Rear hugger

2) Belly pan

3) Mugen decals + plastic plated parts (cosmetics)

 

There you have it... thats about all... everything else in stock condition...

 

With regards to price, I got my bike first hand last year. Total payable amount (everything add in): S$14,800++

 

Right now I'm still paying installments of S$317.90/month, left 29 more months = S$317.90 X 29 = S$9,219.10

 

If I sell back bike shop, I confirm won't get anything back, maybe still have to pay penalty. So I'm looking for a private seller, hopefully I get a certain sum back. Sell back to bike shop very the "lugi" as you can see. Almost lose S$5,000 in just one year...

 

Anyways, if you're interested to get a new spec III, go ask around various bike shops. Once you have a comparison of the quotations given by them, come back to me if you're interested to do a deal (if you dun mind used bike). No obligation lah. We can try to work something out cos' my bike only clocked 6000+km so far, as good as new lah really.

 

And I did my sums already. Unless I can find a private seller and get some money back, chances are, I won't give up this bike, however much I like the VFR...

 

Hope this answers you!

[Smyles]

Originally posted by pktan@March 20, 2007 12:48 am

Come On, bike & car over there are much much cheaper... only problem is to buy petrol. Guess that's why some people is using vege cooking oil there.

Cars are much cheaper in England, bikes only slightly cheaper cus of no COE. Bike insurance a bit higher in England I think tho not sure, petrol more expensive in England.

 

Can only ride 6 months a year but the roads are better bike roads - long winding main roads and varied across the country ....

[kennethy]

Originally posted by floppy@March 17, 2007 12:23 pm

yes, i'm riding one.

 

however, a word of caution. don't expect too much from this bike as it does have some weaknesses. on the whole, its strengths should outweigh its weaknesses though. no need to hurry if you haven't gotten your class2. cb400sf is more than good enough for local riding condition. besides, if you are not riding much, getting a bigger bike is like holding on to a depreciating asset, not entirely worth it.

 

kennethy: you back in sgp?

actually i agree absolutely with you...

 

there is no such thing as the perfect bike... all bikes will have certain limitations and compromises...

 

i was very happy with my S4 on SG road... but when it comes to touring... it has some downsides such as windblast, handling, power, fuel consumption (with VTEC always on, it really drinks petrol) etc...

 

as i was setting my mind to clock more touring mileage... VFR and 06FZ-1 were my top 2 considerations... but eventually gotten a FZ since it was a new revamp and shop was making a very irresistable offer.. kekeke..

 

within first 2 months of ownership, i already clocked more than 10,000km really love touring with that bike...

 

but now, for months it will be in workshop collecting dust... although my wife did not verbally complain, I know she was not too happy to get a new bike and leave it there for depreciation...

 

will be back on 30 Mar, but already planned for cameron trip on 31 morning... i long to burn some rubber... you know lah... tyres get harden... so have to burn off the harden outer layer mah...

[kennethy]

Originally posted by tt6389@March 17, 2007 10:22 pm

Hope those who intend to go coolant flushing can learn something below. Those who do not have temp gauge may have to be extra vigilant with their reservoir level after reading the below:-

 

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today while at motoworld to change my bike battery, i checked my coolant reservoir level. It was empty! A few days ago, i also topped up the coolant level by at least a quarter of the reservoir. It was a total of 2 top ups after my second reflush. That means quite a substantial amount of topping up after the last flushed.

 

How to explain this? Leakage somewhere? My radiator cap not working? The coolant additives which are supposed to raise the boiling point thus preventing excessive boiling is insufficient? (I did tried to buy a bottle of the Maxima concentrates)

 

Or maybe S4 's coolant system is naturally designed like this, there 's a lot of air pockets trapped inside the radiator system, which can't be rid off during the coolant topping up process no matter how good the workmanship. On a hind note here, motorworld & Racewerkz 's workmanship are supposedly reputable, especially Racewerkz as seen in the SBF threads. I am personally impressed with the Racewerkz 's boss technical knowledge too.

 

In another words , it needs to undergo the hot & cold cycles to purge out the trapped pockets. What i mean is when engine is running, the trapped air will be pushed out from the radiator cap 's side opening into the reservoir - due to increased temp & pressure. When engine stops & radiator cools, a vacuum formation at the radiator will sucks the coolant back from the reservoir to top up the radiator system - thus replacing the voids formerly occupied by the trapped air. Thus the reservoir level will drops naturally as well. This cycle got to repeat for many days or 1-2 weeks before the system level stabilised.

 

But I noticed one thing also that the mechanic in Motorworld & Racewerkz did not do something for Ones_co & me respectively. It's written in the S4 manual for coolant flushing , which says the last step is to use a handpump with build-in pressure gauge & radiator cap attachment to pressure up the system & hold for a few minutes to see if pressure can maintains. This will confirms if any hoses or drain nuts are not fully tightened etc. Today I noticed that Motorworld got that special handpump, but I wonder why they never used it on Ones_co 's R1 when he flushed his coolant that day?

 

But visually, there was no leakage for my bike at all.

 

Anyway today i replaced my radiator cap too at motorworld to eliminate this possibility of my cap malfunction. As you know, the radiator cap acts like a pressure regulator , operates & maintains the radiator system at 1.1bar when the engine is running, thus raising the boiling point of water to about 120 + degC. (higher system press=higher boiling pt). So a faulty radiator cap can results in lower boiling pt , excessive boiling & lost of coolant.

 

Hopefully the reservoir level will maintain from now on. Perhaps all air pockets are cleared by now. Furthermore got new radiator cap.

 

On a positive note, temperature wise, its definitely lower than my previous stock coolant which is having 50% glycol. Glycol do raise the boiling point of the system if used in sufficient volume, but its heat carrying capacity (specific heat capacity or latent heat) is many times less than water. Thats why I avoided using Motul & Engine Ice & the original honda stock coolant which are using 50% glycols. This explains for my bike very slow rising of temp at traffic light & lower temp during cruising (compared to my previous stock coolant)

 

thats really some points to ponder over...

 

so far, my coolant level has only drop when the process is not properly carried out...

 

whenever it was done nicely... the level does not drop (or at least not noticable, i dun generally care all long as it is within the max and min marking).

 

and the most interesting point is it only happened when you change your coolant, stock coolant level does not drop...

 

do continue to share when you have more findings...

 

[Lass]

Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 20, 2007 11:09 am

For mi, fuel comsumption is a factor to consider but not a major one.

 

Its the suitability of the bike that matters most.

 

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K3, how much are u looking for? also, wat accessories, aftermarket parts u have on ur s4?

yup s4 is a nice bike to ride in sg and can take u all e way to thailand too hehe

 

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Smyles : oh ya so i heard. when i was living in europe a few yrs back, it's either moped or big bikes, nothing in btw otherwise it's mostly cars on e rd, dun see anyone lane straddling as well and hardly anyone tooting horns. perhaps i stayed in a small town.

[pktan]

Originally posted by Lass@March 20, 2007 08:37 am

haha vege cooking oil not bad eh? might as well run on solar power lagi no need spend money keke

Actually that happened some where near London...