BBDC - Anyone Taking 2B There?

[kurarensu]

Originally posted by Lass@February 01, 2007 08:37 am

jiayu!!

thanks =)

[kurarensu]

wah.. y here so quiet now adays? wat happen?

[bbdcEr]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 03, 2007 01:20 am

wah.. y here so quiet now adays? wat happen?

U bought RS125?

 

why does u singnature have Japanese?

[iVy]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 03, 2007 01:20 am

wah.. y here so quiet now adays? wat happen?

it's friday night ...

i guessed most are out riding, rounding and having fun outside ...

[kurarensu]

Originally posted by bbdcEr@February 03, 2007 02:52 pm

U bought RS125?

 

why does u singnature have Japanese?

japanese is my name.. hah.. btw i suk man.. i got 1 IF and 24pts for my prac8..

[kurarensu]

anyone gt advice on hw 2 pass prac8??? fail 2x liao.. tml going 4 3rd time.. 1st time is 24+1 IF, 2nd time 26..

[singrider]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 05, 2007 04:22 pm

anyone gt advice on hw 2 pass prac8??? fail 2x liao.. tml going 4 3rd time.. 1st time is 24+1 IF, 2nd time 26..

Can share your 26 points checklists or is it a case of anxiety ? Yr instructor shud be able to advise u

 

Actually 26 pts not tt bad, I have seen pple getting double yr pts - instructor has to draw additional boxes and add demerit pts hee hee

 

Maybe u shud do more SP to gain confidence

[kitty23]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 05, 2007 04:22 pm

anyone gt advice on hw 2 pass prac8??? fail 2x liao.. tml going 4 3rd time.. 1st time is 24+1 IF, 2nd time 26..

ride very wayangly... check blind spot, don wobble... hee

[iVy]

Originally posted by kitty23@February 05, 2007 06:10 pm

ride very wayangly... check blind spot, don wobble... hee

how to ride wayangly ... ?

 

[zelot]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 05, 2007 04:22 pm

anyone gt advice on hw 2 pass prac8??? fail 2x liao.. tml going 4 3rd time.. 1st time is 24+1 IF, 2nd time 26..

maybe u can list the breakdown of items tat totalled up ur points to 26.

best if u can include ur prev of 1 IF and 24 points.

[kurarensu]

Originally posted by singrider@February 05, 2007 04:51 pm

Can share your 26 points checklists or is it a case of anxiety ? Yr instructor shud be able to advise u

 

Actually 26 pts not tt bad, I have seen pple getting double yr pts - instructor has to draw additional boxes and add demerit pts hee hee

 

Maybe u shud do more SP to gain confidence

for my today 26pts consist of:

- unnecessary stopping(the final traffic light b4 going back to circuit: green light we proceed ma.. pedestrian also can cross to the opposite, but then i reach there i notice the man is red instead of green but i already stop.. then kenna pts liao..) (2 pts)

- say i never check blindspot x2 (8 pts)

- ebrake say i incorrect posture, left leg too far back.. (eew.. -.-) (4 pts)

- never keep a safe following distance.. (say i too close.. nv kenna this b4) (6 pts)

- delay in moving off(dono where issit, maybe junction 19 in circuit bah the one we right turn to narrow plank) (2 pts)

- poor acceleration when going to crank course (2 pts)

- incorrect positioning when enter the gate n proceed back, form up two rows but everyone form up 1row.. wana cut over to the nxt row but too late so i stop.. (2 pts)

 

 

that time i take got 24pts + 1 IF:

- IF = ebrake over line(hais..)

- say i wobble when changing lane (2 pts)

- 2 wide turning (4 pts)

- fail 2 check blindspot (4 pts)

- fail 2 check traffic x2 (8 pts)

- incorrect positioning (2 pts)

- wobble when turning (4 pts)

[zelot]

hmm.. if tat's e case.

 

seem the most common ones are

1) blind spot

2) following distance

3) failing to check for traffic

 

IF for e-brake.. means u cross e red line liao. dun go too fast nor too slow. just nice can liao.

 

blindspot is costly, do ur checks obviously (u most prob can see ur blindspot when u turn a little. but e pt is the TP or instructor cannot see u check at times) wat i did was blind spot was always std 90deg turn check during test. i neber got deducted for blind spot during e tp.

 

following distance.. relax man. u go so near for?

theory book says tat 1 meter for every 10km/h or e 2 second rule. follow it.. when u pass liao how close u wana get is up to u liao.

[kurarensu]

Originally posted by zelot@February 05, 2007 10:27 pm

hmm.. if tat's e case.

 

seem the most common ones are

1) blind spot

2) following distance

3) failing to check for traffic

 

IF for e-brake.. means u cross e red line liao. dun go too fast nor too slow. just nice can liao.

 

blindspot is costly, do ur checks obviously (u most prob can see ur blindspot when u turn a little. but e pt is the TP or instructor cannot see u check at times) wat i did was blind spot was always std 90deg turn check during test. i neber got deducted for blind spot during e tp.

 

following distance.. relax man. u go so near for?

theory book says tat 1 meter for every 10km/h or e 2 second rule. follow it.. when u pass liao how close u wana get is up to u liao.

i nv kenna mark for following too close before.. this was my first time.. always the same distance.. blindspot i really got check.. but again.. say i didnt.. as usual.. if turn so much just to SHOW THEM that we really got check it's not called blindspot checking liao.. infact more of a SHOW to them.. haiz nvm.. i shall try my best again

[Enotsol]

Originally posted by zelot@February 05, 2007 10:27 pm

hmm.. if tat's e case.

 

seem the most common ones are

1) blind spot

2) following distance

3) failing to check for traffic

 

IF for e-brake.. means u cross e red line liao. dun go too fast nor too slow. just nice can liao.

 

blindspot is costly, do ur checks obviously (u most prob can see ur blindspot when u turn a little. but e pt is the TP or instructor cannot see u check at times) wat i did was blind spot was always std 90deg turn check during test. i neber got deducted for blind spot during e tp.

 

following distance.. relax man. u go so near for?

theory book says tat 1 meter for every 10km/h or e 2 second rule. follow it.. when u pass liao how close u wana get is up to u liao.

It's one car length per 10km/h, not one metre. But anyway it's not an iron rule.

[BlurLing]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 06, 2007 02:08 am

i nv kenna mark for following too close before.. this was my first time.. always the same distance.. blindspot i really got check.. but again.. say i didnt.. as usual.. if turn so much just to SHOW THEM that we really got check it's not called blindspot checking liao.. infact more of a SHOW to them.. haiz nvm.. i shall try my best again

well, its always de case. no point about arguing got check or neck check. what de instructor they really wan is that you can A C T infront of them to let them see. thats wad my instructors said when i 1st attended my pract 1.01.

 

no matter how u dislike it, doing big actions helps you alot. all these was jus an act in BBDC itself. when you get your licence, how many ppl really check? so well yah, inside BBDC, you've to do all these things.

 

check by doing big actions, so they cant penalize you with de blind spot thingy. nv check of blind spot is 4 pts. imagine kanna 3 only, you can YMCA le;.

[singrider]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 05, 2007 08:49 pm

- say i never check blindspot x2 (8 pts)

- ebrake say i incorrect posture, left leg too far back.. (eew.. -.-) (4 pts)

- never keep a safe following distance.. (say i too close.. nv kenna this b4) (6 pts)

- delay in moving off(dono where issit, maybe junction 19 in circuit bah the one we right turn to narrow plank) (2 pts)

- poor acceleration when going to crank course (2 pts)

- incorrect positioning when enter the gate n proceed back, form up two rows but everyone form up 1row.. wana cut over to the nxt row but too late so i stop.. (2 pts)

 

 

that time i take got 24pts + 1 IF:

- IF = ebrake over line(hais..)

- say i wobble when changing lane (2 pts)

- 2 wide turning (4 pts)

- fail 2 check blindspot (4 pts)

- fail 2 check traffic x2 (8 pts)

- incorrect positioning (2 pts)

- wobble when turning (4 pts)

I will start with ebrake first. Try this unofficial method.

a. After crossing line look ahead n not down.

b. hold firmly on the handle n brace body (don't slouch) from start to finish

c. Try this - once cross line..count in yr head 1, 2, 3 AND 4. "1, 2, 3 "is the time u apply front brake, squeezing them harder till u reach count of 3. Rear brake less pressure (30%). 'AND 4' is the time you clutch in- follow by yr left leg coming down.

 

Fail 2 check traffic - when approaching T junctions - slow down a bit and turn yr head n check for outcoming traffic. When moving off from traffic lights look right n left and check blind spot b4 move off

 

Wobbling and poor acceleration - just hold firmly but not tightly to handle bar, dont look down when moving off and apply more throttle - confidence is the key here.

 

Wide turning - either cause by too much speed during turn, u clutching in when turning or eyeline incorrect. When turning always look up, grip yr tank with tighs and focus yr eye ahead of the turn - jus like in figure 8. Tap on foot brake to slow down and half clutch in if you find bike start to protest at gear 2

 

Incorrect positioning - this one you must learn the circuit arrows, turns n plan ahead. More RC /SP

 

Blind spots - dont anyhow turn your head or it wil fall off yr neck. Practice in yr head

the sequence of head turning at LEFT and RIGHT turns. Example RIGHT TURN from minor to major - TURN head LEFT and look for outer lane and opposite traffic (especially those L cars coming out of parking). When clear TURN HEAD RIGHT to check for right traffic. If clear - check right blnd spot and off you go. Do the opposite when doing ur LEFT turn

 

Some keywords to remember in yr head.

 

Don't slouch, sit up straight

Grip tank with yr tighs especially during turns

Look ahead not down

Confidence posture

Relax, Take deep breath when u are flustered

More practice

[zelot]

Originally posted by Enotsol@February 06, 2007 02:14 am

It's one car length per 10km/h, not one metre. But anyway it's not an iron rule.

paiseh~ mis-info there.

shld be 1 car length per 10km/h. :X

[zelot]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 06, 2007 02:08 am

i nv kenna mark for following too close before.. this was my first time.. always the same distance.. blindspot i really got check.. but again.. say i didnt.. as usual.. if turn so much just to SHOW THEM that we really got check it's not called blindspot checking liao.. infact more of a SHOW to them.. haiz nvm.. i shall try my best again

hmm.. then i nt too sure how e instructor see and guage why u are following too closely.

 

hmm.. they may not be near you. so even if u tilt ur head a little.. to them from afar.. they cant see ur head turn. likewise for tp.. on the road only got 5 at certain points. they arent riding ard. so how they judge? by seeing ur helmet turned obviously.

 

i think u rather u turn very obviously then having 1 TP tag to 1 rider. then tat would pull down e passing rate alot liao.

[gabriel06]

Originally posted by zelot@February 06, 2007 09:11 am

hmm.. then i nt too sure how e instructor see and guage why u are following too closely.

 

hmm.. they may not be near you. so even if u tilt ur head a little.. to them from afar.. they cant see ur head turn. likewise for tp.. on the road only got 5 at certain points. they arent riding ard. so how they judge? by seeing ur helmet turned obviously.

 

i think u rather u turn very obviously then having 1 TP tag to 1 rider. then tat would pull down e passing rate alot liao.

if one tp per rider.. each test u take is going to cost u say $100?

[gabriel06]

Originally posted by kurarensu@February 06, 2007 02:08 am

i nv kenna mark for following too close before.. this was my first time.. always the same distance.. blindspot i really got check.. but again.. say i didnt.. as usual.. if turn so much just to SHOW THEM that we really got check it's not called blindspot checking liao.. infact more of a SHOW to them.. haiz nvm.. i shall try my best again

sit up straight and close ur legs, hugging the tank and try to look alert.. even though inside u damm sleepy or wat..

good luck !

[singrider]

Ever wonder why Fail to Check Blindspot gets u 2 pts while Fail to Check Traffic gets u 4 pts

 

The latter is one of the main causes of accident fatalities at traffic junctions and vehicles emerging from side T junctions. Hence it deserves higher weightage.

 

Oso when checking blindspots or checking traffic, don't flip-flop your head from one side to the other in 0.001 sec - do it gently and firmly and don't dipped your eyeline

[bbdcEr]

Originally posted by singrider@February 06, 2007 10:00 am

Ever wonder why Fail to Check Blindspot gets u 2 pts while Fail to Check Traffic gets u 4 pts

 

The latter is one of the main causes of accident fatalities at traffic junctions and vehicles emerging from side T junctions. Hence it deserves higher weightage.

 

Oso when checking blindspots or checking traffic, don't flip-flop your head from one side to the other in 0.001 sec - do it gently and firmly and don't dipped your eyeline

Failing to check blind spots costs 4 POINTS.

Improper check costs 2 points.

I remember in the video, the most common three reasons to cause accidents:

Speeding, Drunk driving, and Failing to check blind spot.

[singrider]

Originally posted by bbdcEr@February 06, 2007 10:48 am

Failing to check blind spots costs 4 POINTS.

Improper check costs 2 points.

I remember in the video, the most common three reasons to cause accidents:

Speeding, Drunk driving, and Failing to check blind spot.

Solly..u r right... blindspot costs 4 pts

 

On wobbling - happen mostly when you r changing gear, checking your blindspots, looking down, or slouching. Tip- hold firmly on yr handlebar (especially when u turn yr head there's a tendency to turn yr shoulder as well, n then correcting it again when you look ahead and which gives the appearance of wobbling), sit up straight, grip tank, and chng gear in one quick firm action.

[zelot]

Originally posted by gabriel06@February 06, 2007 09:51 am

if one tp per rider.. each test u take is going to cost u say $100?

i trying to depict in the situation where "why does one have to make check blindspot so obvious" as mentione prev.

 

would one prefer doing that or to have 1 tp rider following 1 tp test taker.

 

am not referring on cost but the viable method.

[kurarensu]

Originally posted by bbdcEr@February 06, 2007 10:48 am

Failing to check blind spots costs 4 POINTS.

Improper check costs 2 points.

I remember in the video, the most common three reasons to cause accidents:

Speeding, Drunk driving, and Failing to check blind spot.

i find tat we bikers check more blindspot than those drivers do.. most drivers dun even check blindspot when wana change lane.. and just bang into other bikers which are in their blindspot..