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Hi guys! chanced upon this forum through google search vjf125...do u guys find it very hard to keep up during outing with frenzs with bigger bikes like super 4 etc etc

 

Welcome, meticulous

 

I've been joining makan trips to Johor with kakis riding Busa, Fazer 1000, BMW 1100S, Super4s and etc and I can keep up with them. This applies to riding in city traffic conditions and moving off from traffic lights as well as riding on the NS highway. Of course when the bigger bikes decide to play and ride beyond the "reasonable speed limits" of 120km/h, you will get left behind.

 

For a big sized bike with only 125cc engine, the RWr is adequately powered. It all boils down to whether your bike engine is well taken care of and whether you know how to use the bike's power curve.

Be wary of the source of information for your bike's maintenance. Some FAQs are compiled by people who lack the technical know how. :angel:

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Alrites I will read thru...Its the move off stage I find the bike i find the bike kind of sluggish....all the other bikes in the front liao...1st gear hit max arnd 30kmph

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Alrites I will read thru...Its the move off stage I find the bike i find the bike kind of sluggish....all the other bikes in the front liao...1st gear hit max arnd 30kmph

 

1st gear and 2nd gear can't go too fast. If really need to push, 1st gear change at 7500-8000rpm, 2nd gear at 9000rpm. 3rd gear can take you to 90km/h by 8500rpm already. You would be ahead of most cars and taxis already. At that rate, should be able to keep up with Super4s, provided they don't open throttle too much.

Be wary of the source of information for your bike's maintenance. Some FAQs are compiled by people who lack the technical know how. :angel:

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1st gear and 2nd gear can't go too fast. If really need to push, 1st gear change at 7500-8000rpm, 2nd gear at 9000rpm. 3rd gear can take you to 90km/h by 8500rpm already. You would be ahead of most cars and taxis already. At that rate, should be able to keep up with Super4s, provided they don't open throttle too much.

 

 

hmm...bro your bike all stock parts? I alwayz up gear after 8 - 9 rpm (the engine like crying liao haha)...3rd gear I have never hit 90 before(70+++)...my parts all stock de

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count down to? payday and RWR?

Very clever and optimistic view of you. *thumbs up*

 

hmm...bro your bike all stock parts? I alwayz up gear after 8 - 9 rpm (the engine like crying liao haha)...3rd gear I have never hit 90 before(70+++)...my parts all stock de

GOSH! SOS! Cannot be! Any bike given that style of riding would hit 90 atleast.

RWR is powerful at gear 2.

3 onwards would be torque and 5 (is there a 6?).. the last gear is for cruising, not much of a diff if wanna rev.

Technically speaking, I suspect you prob have a issue with your torque, sprocket, engine might got damage somehow or your bike kana accident before.

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i realize when my bike go up slope.. it will drop speed like mad sia.. from 70 can drop til 40.. but i see all the other bikes still can go very fast on slope sia..

 

is it my bike engine problem or cos still running in thats why no power now?

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Honda CB400 Vtec 3 2014 - Now

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i realize when my bike go up slope.. it will drop speed like mad sia.. from 70 can drop til 40.. but i see all the other bikes still can go very fast on slope sia..

 

is it my bike engine problem or cos still running in thats why no power now?

 

how steep is the slope? even for me, i will lose speed de...

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hmm...bro your bike all stock parts? I alwayz up gear after 8 - 9 rpm (the engine like crying liao haha)...3rd gear I have never hit 90 before(70+++)...my parts all stock de

 

 

Everything stock except K&N air filter + 42teeth rear sprocket. Even when I was running stock 45teeth rear sprocket, the speed was only slightly faster.

 

The not-so-secret weapon I always use is Shell V-Power :thumb: :cool:

Be wary of the source of information for your bike's maintenance. Some FAQs are compiled by people who lack the technical know how. :angel:

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i realize when my bike go up slope.. it will drop speed like mad sia.. from 70 can drop til 40.. but i see all the other bikes still can go very fast on slope sia..

 

is it my bike engine problem or cos still running in thats why no power now?

 

Bike dropping speed on up slope is normal. Just down gear and go.

As you are still running in the bike, just relax lah. Shift gear down but don't over-rev engine to go upslope. Doesn't matter what other bikes are doing at this stage, bro.

Be wary of the source of information for your bike's maintenance. Some FAQs are compiled by people who lack the technical know how. :angel:

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I will ask roy on my next visit....thx to all for clearing my doubts =D

 

BTW...ytd i accidentally beat red light...i saw amber liao...but behind me got lorry...i dunno whether safe to stop...so decided to juz cross...and i saw a very bright flash...i immediately stop and turn to my left...to my horror there was a camera there!

will i kena summon since i stop and never cross over the other side???(i somewhere cross center of T junction liao...stop at left most..nv block traffic)

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I will ask roy on my next visit....thx to all for clearing my doubts =D

 

BTW...ytd i accidentally beat red light...i saw amber liao...but behind me got lorry...i dunno whether safe to stop...so decided to juz cross...and i saw a very bright flash...i immediately stop and turn to my left...to my horror there was a camera there!

will i kena summon since i stop and never cross over the other side???(i somewhere cross center of T junction liao...stop at left most..nv block traffic)

 

did the lorry beat the red light too? if not you tio liao.

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Bike dropping speed on up slope is normal. Just down gear and go.

As you are still running in the bike, just relax lah. Shift gear down but don't over-rev engine to go upslope. Doesn't matter what other bikes are doing at this stage, bro.

 

oh.. for bike is normal de ar? i thot not normal sia.. i see the cars all can go so fast.. other bikers oso faster..

i'm just afraid of hogging the road only.. i dun wanna hog the road nor see cars tailgate me.. lols.. very scary de..

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Daelim Roadwin R125 2011 - Now

Honda CB400 Vtec 3 2014 - Now

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oh.. for bike is normal de ar? i thot not normal sia.. i see the cars all can go so fast.. other bikers oso faster..

i'm just afraid of hogging the road only.. i dun wanna hog the road nor see cars tailgate me.. lols.. very scary de..

 

gravity, any moving object going up a slope will eventually lose speed, unless you inc the force/power moving it.

 

LOLS =P

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gravity, any moving object going up a slope will eventually lose speed, unless you inc the force/power moving it.

 

LOLS =P

 

ya lo i did that leh.. i go full throttle as in turn until cannot turn the throttle but my speed nvr increase.. still drop.. plus the slope is not steep leh..

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Daelim Roadwin R125 2011 - Now

Honda CB400 Vtec 3 2014 - Now

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Engine under-powered? Cannot be right? Cause I know another bike with displacement 124.9 CC, weighing 165kg manage to go up slope fast.

Not like as if what you guys said la.. 60 - 75 range

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oh.. for bike is normal de ar? i thot not normal sia.. i see the cars all can go so fast.. other bikers oso faster..

i'm just afraid of hogging the road only.. i dun wanna hog the road nor see cars tailgate me.. lols.. very scary de..

 

hmm... you sound like one particular RWr ex-rider who used to complain about "bike no power..." + "don't like car-taxi-whatever tailgate me" etc. etc.

It is not so much that "cars all can go fast or other bikers also faster. It is more because YOU have yet to learn how to go fast.

 

Give yourself some time and like I said before, you are running in your bike, so relax with your ride.

 

ya lo i did that leh.. i go full throttle as in turn until cannot turn the throttle but my speed nvr increase.. still drop.. plus the slope is not steep leh..

 

 

do u know anything about torque curve or power band? if not, pls google and do some research so you understand how a combustion engine behaves under load. why do they build bikes with gears? why not just use one gear?

 

when your bike slows down while going up slope, did you drop a gear before twisting the throttle? those bikes that are of the same capacity as yours but going faster than you are are doing just that. most cars on SG roads are auto cars as well. that means when the car is going up slope and driver maintains throttle position, car will automatically downshift. that is why the cars are going faster.

Be wary of the source of information for your bike's maintenance. Some FAQs are compiled by people who lack the technical know how. :angel:

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oh.. for bike is normal de ar? i thot not normal sia.. i see the cars all can go so fast.. other bikers oso faster..

i'm just afraid of hogging the road only.. i dun wanna hog the road nor see cars tailgate me.. lols.. very scary de..

 

ice... don worry.. relax.. like wad others say.. juz shift one gear down n continue moving.. maybe one day u free tis week.. i will meet up with u to talkk bout it lor!!!

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Passed 2B - 18thMar09'

Phantom TA200 - FUxxxxK 24thMar09' to 18thJun11'

RoadWin R125 - FBC****M 23rdJun11'

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like this lor, im kinda fine with it...

 

finally ur ride is out.. so i will be waiting for a outing veryvery soon huh???

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Passed 2B - 18thMar09'

Phantom TA200 - FUxxxxK 24thMar09' to 18thJun11'

RoadWin R125 - FBC****M 23rdJun11'

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ice... don worry.. relax.. like wad others say.. juz shift one gear down n continue moving.. maybe one day u free tis week.. i will meet up with u to talkk bout it lor!!!

 

ok let's meet... haha i'm waiting for your text..

 

hmm... you sound like one particular RWr ex-rider who used to complain about "bike no power..." + "don't like car-taxi-whatever tailgate me" etc. etc.

It is not so much that "cars all can go fast or other bikers also faster. It is more because YOU have yet to learn how to go fast.

 

Give yourself some time and like I said before, you are running in your bike, so relax with your ride.

 

hmm.. ok ba.. i guess i havent really understand about the bike yet.. thanks for the explanation.. this is my first bike so i very kuku de.. forgive my noobness..

 

do u know anything about torque curve or power band? if not, pls google and do some research so you understand how a combustion engine behaves under load. why do they build bikes with gears? why not just use one gear?

 

when your bike slows down while going up slope, did you drop a gear before twisting the throttle? those bikes that are of the same capacity as yours but going faster than you are are doing just that. most cars on SG roads are auto cars as well. that means when the car is going up slope and driver maintains throttle position, car will automatically downshift. that is why the cars are going faster.

 

yea i get wat u mean.. quite a few time i forgot to drop gear.. must be my problem already..

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Honda CB400 Vtec 3 2014 - Now

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