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<Archive> Silverwing 400cc / 600cc Tech Corner


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Hi all,

 

I need to start this thread because the system does not allow specify search for particular info.

I think you can understand what I mean.

 

Anyway, here are the rules of this thread, so that every Silverwing riders can benefit:

1) No talking c.o.c.k

2) Do not ask questions here, ask them in the main thread.

 

Format of report:

1) Must specify model and class as header, if appplicable

2) If in doubt, pls follow my style.

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Silverwing 600cc US 2004 model (FSC600D)

 

Silverwing Service Parts Manual

 

Might be applicable to JDM 600cc as well. Some parts are standard with 400cc/600cc JDM.

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Silverwing 400cc JDM/Euro model

 

Q: "differiante a euro model and a japan model, pls explain, how to c if a bike is a euro or jap"

 

A:

a. JDM got power valve at exhuast, EURO dont.

b. JDM got PARK/HAZARD light at right throttle casing, EURO dont.

c. EURO got RIDING/PILOT light (just above the headlight), JDM dont.

d. JDM and EURO FI map is different.

e. JDM and EURO rollers weights are different.

f. EURO main parking stand is located more to the rear, making main stand parking easier. JDM is a pig.

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Silverwing 400cc / 600cc JDM model

 

KENJI (MOTOWORLD) checked with his friends in JAPAN.

The front fork springs and rear shock of the 400cc and 600cc silverwing JDM are the same part numbers.

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Silverwing all model - Rear Suspension (price for 1 pair)

 

FOURNALES AIR TWIN (parts only)

EURO 482 + EURO 63 (freight cost) = EURO 545 = S$1100

 

HYPERPRO (from MOTOWORLD)

S$1200 inclusive of installation.

 

BITUBO BI-H0111-WGE02 (?)

 

I asked PENSKE yesterday, they can customise ANY bike suspension.

Each is S$1300 basic model, we need 2, so S$2600 but got discount.

I heard shd be S$1000 each from PENSKE users.

Highly recommended becos any mechanic can rebuild them, using 1 spanner only.

But the initial cost is a killer.

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Silverwing all model

 

How to calculate Fuel Comsumption (FC)

 

 

dont bother when it start to blink.

Mine now blink at 160km, use to be 200km.

 

Go by a test method you can follow.

You can start anytime.

 

1) Put bike on main stand.

2) Insert fuel nozzle all the way. (Any fuel grade will do)

3) Press the fuel pump to pump (use the middle level so the flow of fuel is slower) until the nozzle automatically stop by itself. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REFUEL.

4) Set your A TRIP to "0km" before moving off.

5) Ride as per normal.

6) Make sure you hit about 200km before your next refuel.

(The longer the distance, the lesser is the error)

7) Put bike on main stand.

8) Before refuelling, take note of A TRIP. eg. "180.2km"

9) Insert fuel nozzle all the way.

10) Press the fuel pump to pump (use the middle level so the flow of fuel is slower) until the nozzle automatically stop by itself. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REFUEL.

11) Take note of pump volume. eg. 8.65L

 

Distance travelled/Fuel volume = Fuel Comsumption.

 

In this case, eg. 180.2/8.65 = 20.8 km/L or 21km/L

 

Do this method for at lest 3 times. This is to minimise errors again in the test methodolgy.

 

(FC1+FC2+FC3)/3= Ave FC

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Silverwing all model

 

General FAQ

 

Q: wat is the power difference between the 600 n 400 sw?

A: If you would have downloaded the manual or been to the website of HONDA, you would have know it is about 36[49]/7,000 and 28[38]/7,500 (kw[PS]/rpm).

 

Q: wats the price for a 2rd hand 400/600 avg?

A: Ask the bike shops/ seller . 2nd bike bikes depends on body/bike condition and supply/demand, too many factors to name.

 

Q:is there a lot of vibration when criusing ard 100km/h?rpm range?

A: which bike doesnt? Anyway, any vibration is very minor. In fact, for silverwing, it is a very smooth bike at all speed.

 

Q: which shops recommended to get 2rd hand for 600 /400?

A: Any shops have that them in the 1st place.

 

Q: what r the problems to look out for 4 a 2rd hand?

A: Ask the bike shops or owners. Else, you need to open up the scoot and inspect.

SW is generally a very reliable bike.

 

Q: having a hard time tinking either a 400 or 600 cuz i and my partner are heavy weighted.

A: Maximun laden weight of SW is 180kg.

 

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1. is there any special features for e lastest model compare to e previous? i heard theres a switch to turn on power to overtake...

Lately i saw the new version 06' model (Euro), there is 2 pilot light beside the head light. But no more 'Turbo' switch which i think is not neccessary as the bike got 'power' liao, and also they don't come with hazard light which i think it is useful when needed.

 

2. how much for a 1st hand if my age is 26yrs old?

12.6k on the road with 3rd party fire & thife.pls note: Price will varies

 

3. how much is e normal maintainance n full servicing (change belt etc..)?

look at bro lokeks signature, consider low maintainances, belt price is almost on par or slightly higher than piaggio but last longer, 24K km change but riders hv tried even longer distance covered.

 

4. are e spare parts readily available? where to get?

Where else? FJT, ever success or chong aik. Now i think sparts parts should be no problem compare 1 yr ago.

 

5. wats e downside for tis bike?

Suspension so so onli, wind screen abit shaky during high speed, no hazard light, no wire mash to protect radiactor, petrol hungry, heavy in weight.

 

6. wats e upside?

reliable machine for light touring, 1 of the best scooter to me in 400cc range.

 

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1)can the wing use a 160 tire instead of a 150 ?(width)

 

2)can the rider butt rest be removed?

 

3)how many belts r there?in the bike?

 

4)even the 600 use single disc brake for the front?

 

5)it use 2 litre engine oil and some trnsmission oil?

 

6)the rear pillion grip and also mount the box?

 

7)any news newer models coming?

 

8)can e 600 hit 300km on a full tank including reserve?

 

9)can e underseat carry two full face helments?

 

1. yes

2. yes

3. 1

4. yes

5. no

6. dunno wad u asking

7. no

8. no

9. depends

 

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1) Can a SW cruise at 90-120 without must prob?

 

Ans:Yes,a silverwing can curise at 120km/hr without any problem,in fact its consider a touring scooter.SO 120km/hr or more for this scooter is definitely not a problem to this powerful scooter.

 

2) How is the fuel consumption like?

 

Ans:Fuel consumption is like 18-20km for per liter of petrol use subject to the riders' riding pattern and road conditions.

 

3) Maintenance wise? (how many spark plug, engine oil, belt, others)?

 

Ans:Silverwing only uses two(2) spark plugs(not to worries about the changing of plugs cause the changing of plugs only occur after 20,000km of usage).Engine change is only 2 liters for non oil filter change and 2.2 liters for oil filter change.Normally i change my engine oil after every 2500km interval.Belt changing is superb.one single change of belt can goes up to 50,000km.Again,The changing of belt is subject to riders' riding pattern as well.(i suggest you don't drag your scooter duirng start-up.Accelerate and increase the RPM smoothly to achieve higher mileage belt change.

 

4) Price? 1 hand or 2nd hand (ard 2yr old)

 

Ans:Price for 1st hand inclusive of insurance should cost from $12,500 to $13,500 depending on your age.2nd hand should cost not more than $9000 at the age of 2 years old.

 

5) Insurance?

 

Ans:Insurance denpends on your age.Mine insurance for 2nd party only cost me $295 after 10% No-Claim Discount.Check it outta the insurance from the motorshop for more accurate pricing.We cannot tell you from here.

 

6) Wher can i go to see the real thing or rather to find out more info?

 

Ans:ASPoon at changi and Loois' motor at kaki bukit are the most reputable shop to enquire.Check them outta.

 

7) Given another chance to choose, will u choose SW again?

 

Ans:Once start to ride this bike,i dont even think of trading or selling it away.The riding comfort is great compare to any other scooters around in the market.Believe me,you will fall in love with the scooter once you own it.

 

Hopes it helps much.i urge you to consider getting this scooter cause the reliablity and comfort is great!Spare parts are easy to find as well.Needs any help on spare part,enquire from us,we are delight to help:)

 

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Silverwing Euro SW400 '06 model

 

EFI mapping

 

rpm 4.5k --> 80 to 84 km/h

rpm 5k --> 90 to 94 km/h

rpm 5.4k --> 100km/h

rpm 5.8 to 5.9k --> 110km/h

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Silverwing all models

 

Transmission Replacement

 

jap version (JDM) uses the same roller and belt.

jap (JDM) and euro roller weight different

 

all belt the same

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just to clarify,

I believe BOON SIEW only had JDM SW600, not JDM SW400.

Their (Boon Siew) SW400 shd be all EURO version, becos they only bring in this year after April I believe.

So, all SW400 (in Sg) after april this year shd be Euro version.

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Silverwing SW400/600 EURO model

 

HISS

 

For those guys riding the Euro version Wing, dun be alarmed when you see your HISS light not blinking. It is still working fine but it is set default not to blink when you turn off your switch. But you can set it on if you want. Need to set it after every time when you off your bike if you want it to blink. If not, just leave it without blinking but it is still working fine.

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Silverwing all models

 

what applicator should i use to repel rain on SW wind screen

 

Q: what applicator should i use to repel rain on SW wind screen?

 

A: absolutely nothing, its plastic, it repels rain.

just use water, car shampoo and yr hand to wash.

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Silverwing all model

 

Resetting V (Belt) light

 

Press the 'M' button which is the mode button till you got the desire reading and then press and hold the reset button and the reading will be reset.

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Silverwing all model

 

Roller weights difference

 

The roller weight of Japanese and EURO version are different.

Japanese=36g(dont know which year model)

EURO = 28g

Multivar 2000 = 21g and 24g ( mix and match)

 

That is why the euro version have better pickup.

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Silverwing all model

 

Muffler

 

Muffler:

 

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...ler%2findex.htm

 

JDM model ... please be aware ... 2004 model and above, cannot change full system , only slipon is allow. Here's why:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...%2funtitled.htm

 

Side visor:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...%2funtitled.htm

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http://www.mcvdo.honda-eu.com/Images/245/60364.jpg

 

Leg deflector set

- black-tinted side-mounted shields

- deflects the wind and cold away from the rider's feet and legs

 

08R82 MCT 800

 

 

http://www.mcvdo.honda-eu.com/Images/245/60363.jpg

 

High windscreen

- specially engineered for Silver Wing

- 630mm high (70mm higher than factory standard)

- constructed from LEXANâ„¢ to resist chipping and cracking

- complies with European homologation (Whole Vehicle Type Approval)

 

08R80 MCT 800

 

 

http://www.mc.honda-eu.com/uk/en/mc/scoote...ccessory_04.jsp

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