BMW Motorcycles

[paithorn]

For the new Duck 1098 owners....more poison...

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....0entry3682457

[Guest chaochao]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@February 08, 2007 11:15 am

Speaking for myself, PML for technical, diagonistic and servicing. M-Tech for aftermarket and technical and quick jobs. All smiles so far

Hi SideWays,

 

Thank you for replying.

 

I think I've a problem with my shaft drive, hence, asking for where to service. I heard PML charges pretty pricey for servicing. Any feedback if their mechs are known to do good jobs? (Pardon me for this newbie questions)

 

Btw, in this thread - anyone riding "S" series?

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 12, 2007 04:30 am

Hi SideWays,

 

Thank you for replying.

 

I think I've a problem with my shaft drive, hence, asking for where to service. I heard PML charges pretty pricey for servicing. Any feedback if their mechs are known to do good jobs? (Pardon me for this newbie questions)

 

Btw, in this thread - anyone riding "S" series?

Pricey relative to whom and on what job? We have to be specific when making such determination here ya... They do charge for labour if thats what your're refering to, but so do lots of other establishment out there. There's a warrenty period for the work they do on your bike.

[SDR]

Originally posted by PL@February 10, 2007 02:55 pm

Any fans of this? spotted over the weekend in kl

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000005copy.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000006copy.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000007copy.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000008copy.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000009copy.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/pinglong/P1000010copy.jpg

Wow... looks very mint to me...

 

Yamaha... Royle Venture... nice too...

http://www.ycc-norway.com/bilder/kjop_salg/DSC_0020.JPG

[SDR]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 12, 2007 04:30 am

Hi SideWays,

 

Thank you for replying.

 

I think I've a problem with my shaft drive, hence, asking for where to service. I heard PML charges pretty pricey for servicing. Any feedback if their mechs are known to do good jobs? (Pardon me for this newbie questions)

 

Btw, in this thread - anyone riding "S" series?

Shaft problem... I had such experience too but mine is the R100R, changed mine about 2months ago, in usual case, BMW shaft can last "forever" as long as you ride is decently within the machine tolerance, you don't overload your bike and travel round the world - like our dear Micheal Fong and Sonia, (heard this man is still keeping his R100GS) and/or you mech fix it incorrectly...

 

Price of shaft for mine is about S$1164.00, bearings and nuts may adds up to another S$550.00, suggest to change all bearings and nuts as according to Haynes Manual. In fact, once it is dismentled, all nuts must be renewed... don't save on them...

 

Workmanship alone is not too expensive, guess you should expect S$500.00 to S$700.00 but I will suggest to go for 1 that is willingly warranty it. Did you get any quotation from PML? And don't jump to conclusion that shaft is damage, may be just a minor problem.

 

 

May I ask how you know that you shaft is damage?

[mao]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 12, 2007 04:30 am

Hi SideWays,

 

Thank you for replying.

 

I think I've a problem with my shaft drive, hence, asking for where to service. I heard PML charges pretty pricey for servicing. Any feedback if their mechs are known to do good jobs? (Pardon me for this newbie questions)

 

Btw, in this thread - anyone riding "S" series?

Hi there,

 

I completely agree with Cyclops. Price is defintive to different individuals. with exotics, you do pay relatively higher prices but they do also come with support and other perks.

 

But do rememeber BMW's are built like a tank and they run forever as long as you care for them like you are suppose to.

 

You can't get "Proton" pricing for a BMW if you know what I mean. No punt intended ya folks. Hope this helps.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by mao@February 12, 2007 05:52 pm

"When was the last time you did something for the first time?"

Great new sig line Bro, also use by Emirates in their ads.

 

I like this one : Do one thing everyday that scares you

 

Remember where it came from ?

 

Click here for answer

[VFRider]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@February 12, 2007 10:28 pm

Great new sig line Bro, also use by Emirates in their ads.

 

I like this one : Do one thing everyday that scares you

 

Remember where it came from ?

 

Click here for answer

How about this one?

Got it from a fellow forumer.

 

命运就像被强奸,你反抗不了就去学会享受。

工作就像被轮奸,你不行的话别人就上了喔。

学习就像是嫖妓,因为又要花钱还需要出力。

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by VFRider@February 13, 2007 12:32 am

How about this one?

Got it from a fellow forumer.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/snork.gif

[mao]

"Do one thing everyday that scares you"

 

Thats a good one bro. I like it!!

[Guest chaochao]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@February 12, 2007 06:49 am

Pricey relative to whom and on what job? We have to be specific when making such determination here ya... They do charge for labour if thats what your're refering to, but so do lots of other establishment out there. There's a warrenty period for the work they do on your bike.

quote from Mao:

Hi there,

 

I completely agree with Cyclops. Price is defintive to different individuals. with exotics, you do pay relatively higher prices but they do also come with support and other perks.

 

But do rememeber BMW's are built like a tank and they run forever as long as you care for them like you are suppose to.

 

You can't get "Proton" pricing for a BMW if you know what I mean. No punt intended ya folks. Hope this helps.

 

Quote from SDR:

Shaft problem... I had such experience too but mine is the R100R, changed mine about 2months ago, in usual case, BMW shaft can last "forever" as long as you ride is decently within the machine tolerance, you don't overload your bike and travel round the world - like our dear Micheal Fong and Sonia, (heard this man is still keeping his R100GS) and/or you mech fix it incorrectly...

 

Price of shaft for mine is about S$1164.00, bearings and nuts may adds up to another S$550.00, suggest to change all bearings and nuts as according to Haynes Manual. In fact, once it is dismentled, all nuts must be renewed... don't save on them...

 

Workmanship alone is not too expensive, guess you should expect S$500.00 to S$700.00 but I will suggest to go for 1 that is willingly warranty it. Did you get any quotation from PML? And don't jump to conclusion that shaft is damage, may be just a minor problem.

 

 

May I ask how you know that you shaft is damage?

 

 

Hi Cyclops, Mao, SDR

 

Thank you all for your valuable input.

 

I cleaned and polished my sports beemer for the first time and it looked just great. Took it to PML on Monday since the other shops were busy with lots of pre-CNY jobs. Paid a >$100 for workmanship and another $100 for parts.

It was not a shaft problem (phew!) - but a wear-tear on needle bearing and pivot pin.

Collected it today and rode of a satisfied customer. My first visit to PML. Found their service pretty good and after the job is completed there isn't a single "oily-finger-prints" on my beemer!

 

Still a doubtful owner of this 7-yr-old beemer, I hope the problem does not recur again. Unfortunately previous owners bring this bike all over the place for servicing and repairs and I've no records of jobs done.

 

One of the unfav points of this beemer is that it does not go well with a top box. W/o top-box i've to lug my helmets and lappy everywhere I go. Side-panniers are too bulky to squeeze traffic during peak hours. I render there's no-way out of this huh.

 

Well - will post more over here as I discover more of my R1100S.

[mao]

Interesting reading material lads..

 

Kevin Ash rides tow of the London bike show's stars. Can the red-blooded Ducati 1098 put the Italian company back on top?

 

Last month we ran our report from the press launch of Ducati's great red hope, the 1098 superbike on which the Bologna factory is pinning its future and a turnaround in its flagging fortunes.

 

Latin lesson: it's fast, looks great, sounds superb, handles like a dream, but...

 

We found the handling sublime, yet it's also a major change for Ducati as it offers vastly improved agility compared with its predecessor, the 999, while barely compromising its benchmark stability. What we couldn't tell you about was the extensively revamped, liquid-cooled V-twin motor, since the presentation took place at Kyalami in South Africa, a circuit notorious for the debilitating effect on engines of its 6,000ft altitude. Indeed, the 1098 felt slower than the 999, despite a supposed 20bhp advantage.

 

Now we've ridden the 1098 again, in the UK, at the much more reasonable altitude of 397 feet above sea level. A shame the temperature was 20 degrees lower than South Africa, but that's what Hein Gericke is for… With its full complement of horses, the 1098's engine is absolutely breathtaking.

 

Ducati is going to have to start working on what its bikes smell like, because the other senses are starting to become swamped. The visage looks rather generic, but judge the machine by the number of ricked necks it causes when out and about and it's hard to argue that the 1098 hasn't got what it takes visually. What the engine brings is a glorious combination of feel and sound, a sensory overload that makes others' attempts at great exhaust notes or aggressive intake snarls appear mere tinkering. The bike bellows with quite astonishing volume considering it meets the latest noise regulations, distinctive even from older Ducatis with its richer, deeper tone. At the same time, the whole machine shudders and shakes animatedly as the twistgrip is turned, like some adrenalin-pumped charging steed.

 

It's not quicker than a Suzuki GSX-R1000 in a straight line, but it is pretty damn close, so much so you'll need a stopwatch to split the difference. Which means a 172mph top speed, lifting the front wheel on demand in second gear and acceleration so fierce that you seriously start to wonder if you can hang on much longer.

 

Yet… Ducati seems to be reverting to type, judging by my experiences with the 1098 and our long-term test Multistrada, which has not only baffled with a range of electrical issues, but it's already stranded me and I've only had it a week. The 1098's mirrors, for example, are criminally bad - they're tucked in tight and they wobble, vibrate and won't adjust properly. Inexcusable.

 

There's physical pain when your fingers get trapped between the bars and the fairing at low speeds, and on my example the trip meter kept zeroing itself. One magazine had a 1098's badly machined cambelt tensioner fail. I'm assured my example's absurd 22mpg was due to some as yet undiagnosed problem (calls to various magazines confirmed they'd got much better) but even so, at best the 3.5-gallon capacity means looking for fuel stations by 90 miles. That's hopeless if the 1098 is to be anything more than a trinket.

 

Price/availability: £13,995, on sale now. Contact 0845 1222996 (http://www.ducatiuk.com)

 

Engine/transmission: 1,099cc, V-twin four-stroke with eight valves; 158bhp at 9,750rpm, 90lb ft of torque at 8,000rpm. Six-speed gearbox, chain final drive.

 

Performance: top speed 172mph, economy n/a.

 

We like: Engine, looks, handling, feel, sound.

 

We don't like: Mirrors, squashed fingers, fuel range, quality control.

[mao]

Kevin Ash rides two of the London bike show's stars and reports the BMW K1200R Sport has it all

 

The BMW K1200R Sport: interior and exterior shots

 

You get the feeling BMW has created the new K1200R Sport as much because it can as for any compelling marketing reasons or customer demand.

 

Good vibe: the half-faired Sport is greater than the sum of its parts

 

The bike, after all, amounts to little more than the naked K1200R with a half-fairing added. Or, if you prefer, a fully faired K1200S with the fairing, er, halved. Even BMW isn't exactly clear about who will buy it: the R is a naked street-fighter with attitude, the S a very high-performance machine with strong sports leanings, while the Sport is somewhere in between. There isn't really much else out there it's up against, either.

 

The description as an R with extra bodywork is the more accurate as the R Sport features the same state of engine tune, differing from the S in having a slightly wider torque spread and a touch less peak horsepower at 161bhp. It also shares the R's more upright riding position, although almost everything else is common to all three bikes.

 

It's ironic then that rather than losing out to its more clearly focused stablemates, the R Sport does the job of both very well, bringing versatility with little compromise. It helps that BMW has finally sorted the fuelling of the immensely powerful transverse four. Twist the throttle and the motor responds as you want and expect, which means a fast-growing wave of torque blending into a blast of high rev horsepower that will see you to 160mph or so. On an autobahn, obviously. No more holes, just a creamy delivery and, as with the R, the R Sport rewards with a pleasing intake snarl muffled on the S by its bodywork.

 

The motor can still vibrate harshly, however. It's fine below 6,000rpm, where for the sake of your licence you spend most of the time anyway, but beyond that it buzzes nastily, and in this respect it is a generation at least behind Japanese fours.

 

It shows them up in fuel consumption, however, which can exceed 45mpg with little effort - not bad considering the performance on tap. The tank capacity is 4.2 gallons, giving a range of up to 190 miles. The fairing is OK for touring, too, cleaving the air without buffeting the rider with turbulence, although the wind pressure hits taller riders quite low. Even so, all-day motorway cruising is not a problem. KA For me the R Sport is also the best looking of the three, the R looking too deliberately industrial while the S's bodywork obscures the interesting engine and chassis, with its Duolever double wishbone front suspension and single-sided swingarm/shaft drive combination rear end. These keep the bike supremely stable under heavy braking, but the payback is poor ride quality for a bike in this class. Stability, though, is excellent, and the R Sport steers a little quicker than the S, presumably due to reduced weight on the front,.

 

Sort those vibes out, BMW, and you'll have an outstanding bike, regardless of who might buy it.

 

Price/availability: from £9,695, on sale now. Contact 0800 777 155 (http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk).

 

Engine/transmission: 1,157cc, transverse four-cylinder four-stroke with 16 valves; 161bhp at 10,250rpm, 96lb ft of torque at 8,250rpm. Six-speed gearbox, shaft final drive.

 

Performance: top speed 160mph (est), average fuel consumption 43mpg.

 

We like Power, stability under braking, riding position.

 

We don't like Vibration, ride quality.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 14, 2007 01:35 am

.....Side-panniers are too bulky to squeeze traffic during peak hours. I render there's no-way out of this huh......

There's always a way out.

 

Have you considered the city system case lids for your panniers ? They offer a slimmer profile for your panniers at the expense of capacity, but hey, nothin's for free ya....

 

http://maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/DiagramsMid/B0002160.png

Model: R1100S Diagram #46_0385

 

No Part Number Description Qty Each

01 46542316913 left storing partition insert BUY 1 $31.00

01 46542316914 right storing partition insert BUY 1 $31.00

02 46542337019 left city system case lid (BLACK) BUY 1 $105.00

02 46542337020 right city system case lid (BLACK) BUY 1 $105.00

02 71602337049 left city system case lid (WHITE) BUY 1 $269.00

02 71602337050 right city system case lid (WHITE) BUY 1 $269.00

04 46542337018 bolts f city system suitcase lid BUY 2 $17.00

 

Price in USD, so use it as an estimate ya...

[mao]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 14, 2007 01:35 am

One of the unfav points of this beemer is that it does not go well with a top box. W/o top-box i've to lug my helmets and lappy everywhere I go. Side-panniers are too bulky to squeeze traffic during peak hours. I render there's no-way out of this huh.

 

Well - will post more over here as I discover more of my R1100S. [/color]

I am glad that the problem has been solved. I would suggest you have the neccessary parts, in respect to your current mileage regardless of its current state, repalced. This will ensure the squeak problem free running. You can check with PML what is needed to be done at your mileage.

 

Do not wait till it develops a problem.

 

As for the boxes, most lads prefer the side boxes. Much wider but you will get use to it and you will not notice that there are even there.

[Guest koma]

welcome to the club chaochao~~

hmm...wonder who bought the ducks...hor one eye

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by koma@February 14, 2007 03:13 am

hmm...wonder who bought the ducks...

http://mandrake.liquidblade.com/images/duck.jpg

 

or

 

http://www.freewebs.com/tristanhorswell/Roast%20duck.JPG

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 14, 2007 01:35 am

quote from Mao:

 

Quote from SDR:

 

 

 

Hi Cyclops, Mao, SDR

 

Thank you all for your valuable input.

 

I cleaned and polished my sports beemer for the first time and it looked just great. Took it to PML on Monday since the other shops were busy with lots of pre-CNY jobs. Paid a >$100 for workmanship and another $100 for parts.

It was not a shaft problem (phew!) - but a wear-tear on needle bearing and pivot pin.

Collected it today and rode of a satisfied customer. My first visit to PML. Found their service pretty good and after the job is completed there isn't a single "oily-finger-prints" on my beemer!

 

Still a doubtful owner of this 7-yr-old beemer, I hope the problem does not recur again. Unfortunately previous owners bring this bike all over the place for servicing and repairs and I've no records of jobs done.

 

One of the unfav points of this beemer is that it does not go well with a top box. W/o top-box i've to lug my helmets and lappy everywhere I go. Side-panniers are too bulky to squeeze traffic during peak hours. I render there's no-way out of this huh.

 

Well - will post more over here as I discover more of my R1100S.

Hi ChaoChao,

 

Happy to hear your new ride is tip top again after your Pivot Bearing change at PML.

 

Mine was also changed at PML 1 year ago. Rest assure that it is wear and tear and it should last you for a while.

 

 

Feel free to meet up with us in our next kopimania session... =)

[Guest chaochao]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@February 14, 2007 02:32 am

There's always a way out.

 

Have you considered the city system case lids for your panniers ? They offer a slimmer profile for your panniers at the expense of capacity, but hey, nothin's for free ya....

 

http://maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/DiagramsMid/B0002160.png

Model: R1100S Diagram #46_0385

 

No Part Number Description Qty Each

01 46542316913 left storing partition insert BUY 1 $31.00

01 46542316914 right storing partition insert BUY 1 $31.00

02 46542337019 left city system case lid (BLACK) BUY 1 $105.00

02 46542337020 right city system case lid (BLACK) BUY 1 $105.00

02 71602337049 left city system case lid (WHITE) BUY 1 $269.00

02 71602337050 right city system case lid (WHITE) BUY 1 $269.00

04 46542337018 bolts f city system suitcase lid BUY 2 $17.00

 

Price in USD, so use it as an estimate ya...

Hey - that's new! - Thanks Cyclops - will go find out more.

Basically - I need a top-box to fit two helmets. I think side-panniers can't do it unless its bulky enought. I know that ST11's side hard-luggage can fit helmets yet the overall width is not as wide as beemers with side panniers.

 

Saw me a ST11 this morning squeezing through heavy traffic. I tailed it and found that so long its mirror are cleared, there's enough clearance for its panniers to squeeze thru.

[Guest chaochao]

Originally posted by GSGabes@February 14, 2007 10:49 am

Hi ChaoChao,

 

Happy to hear your new ride is tip top again after your Pivot Bearing change at PML.

 

Mine was also changed at PML 1 year ago. Rest assure that it is wear and tear and it should last you for a while.

 

 

Feel free to meet up with us in our next kopimania session... =)

Thanks Gabes; I'll keep a look out of your kopi sessions.

 

I also have my own riding kakis - most of us are riding S4. A few of us upgraded but we hang out often as well.

 

[Guest chaochao]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@February 14, 2007 10:16 am

http://mandrake.liquidblade.com/images/duck.jpg

 

or

 

http://www.freewebs.com/tristanhorswell/Roast%20duck.JPG

[SDR]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 15, 2007 01:45 pm

Hey - that's new! - Thanks Cyclops - will go find out more.

Basically - I need a top-box to fit two helmets. I think side-panniers can't do it unless its bulky enought. I know that ST11's side hard-luggage can fit helmets yet the overall width is not as wide as beemers with side panniers.

 

Saw me a ST11 this morning squeezing through heavy traffic. I tailed it and found that so long its mirror are cleared, there's enough clearance for its panniers to squeeze thru.

Yr S is more difficult to guage, cos the panniers are wider than your mirrors, handlebar and engine covers, so not so easy but it is just a matter of getting used to... don't worry, you can survive thru, between, your bike don't come with panniers? may be you can get a pair of used panniers for trial and later opt for a set of brand new if you are a particular owner...

[paithorn]

Originally posted by chaochao@February 14, 2007 01:35 am

 

 

 

Well - will post more over here as I discover more of my R1100S.

So soon "discovered" and selling?

[Guest koma]

A Happy N Prosperous CNY to all my khakis here~~

also wishin those who have bought their "ducks" will enjoy

them in the followin months

[servoprax]

Hi guys,

 

I have a friend who is looking for a gs1150 non-dual spark version below 20k where possible. gabes has sold his i think so if u guys have any recommendations, pls pm me. reloan is an issue for now it seems for some shops. best if you know of a gs sold in some shops so paper work will be easier.... thanks