Varadero 125

[sable81]

Originally posted by visual@Oct 17 2004, 01:01 PM

install at ghc yishun

1. simon

2. indy

3. visual

4.sable81

 

self installation

 

1.

 

 

i wont be selling my boxes or the brackets...

cos will need for studying...

thanks for the interest in it...

[sable81]

Originally posted by DaNiYaL@Oct 18 2004, 11:50 AM

I am fixing a fuel max on my bike...but i need to know where is the fuel line...the instructions was fixed on the colder one...yesterday, i try to figure out...i know where is the fuel line...but i do not know which is the supply line and the return line...

whats a fuel max...

is it the same as from superione...

[pingster]

Originally posted by Pro Dero@Oct 18 2004, 01:38 AM

hi varas again...

 

1. indy, simon, visual n those who wanna go fix up their crash bar or tag along, juz call me at 90223375, i usually go at ghc yishun on sat around 9am onwards.

 

2. pingster Abt the clutch thing ya gotta change it by 2 yrs if u nvr lubricate it n the stock one not very durable, i juz changed mine a thicker type cost me 15 bucks.

 

3. superione is a jap technology my mech recommanded me it powers up ya bike by 10%, well tops 120km/h, petrol can last 5 days but i am a dragster so really save for me but dun wanna spoil my dero more details check this out http://www.venturione.com n cost 50 bucks...

 

4. more pics of suzuki v strom 650 `05 version, btw the v stromers port at adam food corner, i had the most expensive chapati 2 pcs for 5 bucks juz now man..

 

 

enjoys mate..........!

tijan

u change ur clutch cable or clutch pad??

btw can check wif ur mechanics how much to change the clutch pad, gaskets, n the necessary things?

[daystar_70]

Originally posted by sable81@Oct 18 2004, 05:55 PM

whats a fuel max...

is it the same as from superione...

IT IS A PACK OF MAGNETS.

 

WORKING PRINCIPLE : MAGNETIZE THE FUEL IONS FOR BETTER BURNING......

 

I HAVE THOSE IN MY CAR.

[pingster]

indy,

 

juz changed my balancers, carbon fibre or dunno wat lah.

tink is tt time u mentioned 1. bought fr ah boy.

[pingster]

Originally posted by daystar_70@Oct 18 2004, 06:22 PM

IT IS A PACK OF MAGNETS.

 

WORKING PRINCIPLE : MAGNETIZE THE FUEL IONS FOR BETTER BURNING......

 

I HAVE THOSE IN MY CAR.

so izzit drop into the fuel tank or???

or have to do wat DaNiYaL is doing??

looking for dunno which fuel line..

[visual]

Originally posted by pingster@Oct 18 2004, 06:26 PM

so izzit drop into the fuel tank or???

or have to do wat DaNiYaL is doing??

looking for dunno which fuel line..

no lah the magnet canot drop into the fuel tank lah.. later u ride.. will scratch ur tank.. very noisy.. from what i know.. u place the magnet... at the fule line.. somewhere near the carb.. so i htink before it reaches the carbs...

 

but i got an email aout all this magnet claiming its all bulls|-|it..

 

check it out.. if your in the mood to read an 'essay'

Magnets round the fuel line or in the air flow

Devices of this type include: Ecoflow, FuelMAX, Prozone, MAXPower, FuelSaverPro

 

People have been claiming miraculous effects from magnets for hundreds of years. When considering these claims, bear in mind a simple physical fact: magnets only significantly affect things that conduct electricity. So magnets can affect metals, water and even the human body. But the only effect on a hydrocarbon fuel is the massively weaker "diamagnetic" influence. This would cause an extremely slight tendency of the fuel to move away from a magnet, but certainly would have no effect at the molecular level.

 

Some devices claim to "align the fuel molecules". But the molecules are vibrating at high speed all the time, just as in any liquid. So even if they were aligned in the magnetic field, they would "unalign" straight away when they passed the magnet, and so would be back to normal when they reached the engine. And where are the experimental results which show that the molecules are "aligned"? How can the makers claim their device works in a particular way, without any evidence to show that this is really happening?

 

Some magnet devices don't actually admit that they use magnets, because there has been so much negative evidence against them. But if a device clamps round the fuel line, doesn't have any electrical connection to anything, and claims to "align the fuel molecules" (or something along those lines), it is almost certainly a magnet. Devices made of neodymium, Samarium Cobalt or other "rare earth" materials are also almost certainly magnets.

 

 

But let's ignore the non-magnetism of fuel for a moment, and assume the magnet really does affect it. What is this claimed to do to the combustion?

 

A common claim is that it makes the fuel burn faster. Full details of the effect of burn rate on fuel consumption can be found on the turbulence page, but basically:

 

Faster burning does not, even in theory, improve fuel economy significantly on modern engines (the burn rate is pretty close to optimum anyway)

If the fuel really does burn faster, the ignition must be retarded to suit

Another claim is that the fuel in some way burns "better" or "more completely". But only about one or two percent of the injected fuel escapes unburnt from the engine (because it was trapped in the head gasket crevice, for example). The other 99% is totally broken down into smaller molecules, and then combined with oxygen to form water, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. Essentially all the chemical energy in the fuel is released as heat. How can the burning be any "better" than this?

 

 

The mechanism by which magnetic devices often claim to work is by converting long-chain fuel molecules to short-chain ones. It is of course true that petrol and diesel consist of many different molecules, ranging from large ones such as octane (C8H18) to small ones such as butane (C4H10). Longer molecules can in theory be broken down into shorter ones, though this process normally requires heat and pressure, as well as the presence of a catalyst. But even if the fuel "saving" device does break the molecules down, this does not imply improved fuel consumption or emissions.

 

Firstly, the precise blend of components of modern petrol (and indeed diesel) is quite carefully "tuned" to match the requirements of the engine. This even involves selling different petrol in summer and winter to compensate for differing temperatures! The proportion of the fuel that evaporates at different temperatures (the "boiling curve") is determined by the blend of high boiling point (long-chain) components and low boiling point (short-chain) components. If the proportions are altered, then the boiling characteristics of the fuel will change. The likely effects are either poor cold starting or poor hot starting, with increased emissions in each case.

 

Secondly, short-chain molecules do not generally produce significantly more energy when burnt. The calorific values of most hydrocarbon fuels are around 44 - 46 MJ/kg, with small molecules providing only slightly more energy than larger ones. Claims that smaller molecules burn "better", "more completely", or "more energetically" are not supported by experimental data (consider, for example, the fuel economy of LPG vehicles).

 

 

One of the best-known examples of a magnetic fuel "saving" device is the Ecoflow. In 2002 the Advertising Standards Authority ruled against Ecoflow, saying:

 

The Authority took expert advice on the Warren Spring [DTI] report. It understood that the testing procedure was flawed and therefore the results did not prove the efficacy of the Ecoflow fuel economiser. It considered that the letters, testimonials and articles sent by the advertisers to support their claims for the fuel economiser did not constitute rigorous scientific evidence.

 

The vehicle tested, a non-catalyst equipped carburetted engine car, was not typical of current vehicles, which are fitted with catalysts and fuel injected systems. The Authority noted the vehicle tested was too old and too variable in its exhaust emissions for the test programme used. The Authority concluded that the reference to the Warren Spring report was misleading because the testing procedure was flawed and the test vehicle no longer representative. It told the advertisers to delete the reference to the Warren Spring report

 

The ASA does not regulate Internet advertising, so this test data is still widely used by the sellers of magnetic devices ("tested by the DTI!"), but the authoritative remarks above should demonstrate the need for caution in accepting these claims.

 

Ecoflow also said that their magnetic device was "the subject of a continuing product specific trial funded by an independent charity" but "the results would not be available for some time". This was said over two years ago - readers may draw their own conclusions as to the results of this trial, from the fact that they have apparently not been published.

 

 

Interestingly, certain makers of both magnet and catalyst-based fuel "saving" devices claim that they were used by the RAF during World War 2. Amazing that the British armed forces should have found not one, but two, miraculous fuel-saving devices; even more amazing that they have apparently now "lost" both of them. (Since getting fuel to the front line is a major logistical problem, the armed forces are more interested in fuel consumption than you might think.) A sceptic might wonder how much truth there is in either claim.

[DaNiYaL]

Originally posted by sable81@Oct 18 2004, 05:55 PM

whats a fuel max...

is it the same as from superione...

I think it works juz the same...only the product size not the same...i guess...i bought 2 years ago..cost me $120...thought of fixing on my dad's car....BUT it need 8 fuel max to be fixed on 1.8litre engine....

 

but u can get it cheaper....my fren juz bought $36....i can find out for u guyz if u want...coz my camp has contact with the dealer...but diy...

 

whether it works or not, i do not know...juz wanna try...bought it for $120 kena ketuk man....

 

so when r we going to GHC yishun...got to ask tijan mechanics about my bike rev problem...

[DaNiYaL]

Visual..i realise something...i find that u are very resourceful...its like u haf all the infomation that i need...me, personally, i dun know about the rest...u really haf time surf the net and find all those info?..correct me if i am wrong...

 

KUDOS!... my compliments...

[visual]

[DaNiYaL] dont say i got alot of time lah.. .. im suppose to be doing my project (due on sat) but .. cent seem to find the mood lah.. bro..

[DaNiYaL]

i see!....ehehheheh....

[sable81]

Originally posted by pingster@Oct 18 2004, 06:23 PM

indy,

 

juz changed my balancers, carbon fibre or dunno wat lah.

tink is tt time u mentioned 1. bought fr ah boy.

i would be interested to add on a balancer to my bike...

btw, how much does it cost...

indy, inform me if you are going to get it...

thanks

[DaNiYaL]

whats a balancer?

[Pro Dero]

hey dudes,

 

1. abt all the theory nonsense juz confuse us more, so solution is better than reasoning, either u try ya self or wait till u get class 2 to get the real power from bikes without all these craps....no offence to anyone but u can try on my bike den u know wat i mean anytime dude.

 

2. whoever wants to join me to ghc yishun juz sms me, rendezvous point will be at khatib prata shop 10am sharp;

 

1. simon

2. indy

3. visual

4.sable81

 

 

3. daystars 70, it only takes 15mins to fix up, i can check with my mech how many he have in stock asap n whoever wants it, tell me in adavnce.

 

4. btw sable 81 fuel max n superione r two different technology.

 

5. pingster i abt ya clutch thing i suggest come with me n let the pro do his magic on ya bike at ghc yishun den i will ask for discount cuz i know him very long oredi.

 

6. daniyal cya at ghc on sat can? btw balancer is like fork holder to prevent ya bike form shaking while corner at high speed, can ask my mech ah wah abt it he knows better...cheers mate!

[Guest simone]

Date 22 Oct 2004

Place East Coast Hawker Centre -> coastal route to changi village

Time 7? TBA

 

 

Interested

Simone

[Chow]

Hi guys,

Have been reading these pages for a while.

Any of you like to sell you beloved Vara ?

 

Thinking of whether to buy new or 2nd hand. Advise ?

[daystar_70]

Originally posted by Chow@Oct 19 2004, 11:37 AM

Hi guys,

Have been reading these pages for a while.

Any of you like to sell you beloved Vara ?

 

Thinking of whether to buy new or 2nd hand. Advise ?

and

 

why not go down to GHC @ serangoon and take a look?

 

may not be many who want to sell here.....

[Niti]

when r u guys going down to ghc yishun?

[LTC]

Date 22 Oct 2004

Place East Coast Hawker Centre -> coastal route to changi village

Time 7? TBA

 

 

Interested

1. Simone

2. LTC (91076856)

[pingster]

Originally posted by sable81@Oct 18 2004, 11:20 PM

i would be interested to add on a balancer to my bike...

btw, how much does it cost...

indy, inform me if you are going to get it...

thanks

coz tt time stil got buy other things so juz bargain wif ah boy

i got my tink less den than $10, ah boy selling $12

[pingster]

Originally posted by Pro Dero@Oct 19 2004, 12:33 AM

hey dudes,

 

1. abt all the theory nonsense juz confuse us more, so solution is better than reasoning, either u try ya self or wait till u get class 2 to get the real power from bikes without all these craps....no offence to anyone but u can try on my bike den u know wat i mean anytime dude.

 

2. whoever wants to join me to ghc yishun juz sms me, rendezvous point will be at khatib prata shop 10am sharp;

 

1. simon

2. indy

3. visual

4.sable81

 

 

3. daystars 70, it only takes 15mins to fix up, i can check with my mech how many he have in stock asap n whoever wants it, tell me in adavnce.

 

4. btw sable 81 fuel max n superione r two different technology.

 

5. pingster i abt ya clutch thing i suggest come with me n let the pro do his magic on ya bike at ghc yishun den i will ask for discount cuz i know him very long oredi.

 

6. daniyal cya at ghc on sat can? btw balancer is like fork holder to prevent ya bike form shaking while corner at high speed, can ask my mech ah wah abt it he knows better...cheers mate!

tijan,

 

i juz wanna know roughly how much to change the clutch things......

coz now quite broke liao...

[DaNiYaL]

hey dudes,

 

1. abt all the theory nonsense juz confuse us more, so solution is better than reasoning, either u try ya self or wait till u get class 2 to get the real power from bikes without all these craps....no offence to anyone but u can try on my bike den u know wat i mean anytime dude.

 

2. whoever wants to join me to ghc yishun juz sms me, rendezvous point will be at khatib prata shop 10am sharp;

 

1. simon

2. indy

3. visual

4.sable81

5. Daniyal

 

 

3. daystars 70, it only takes 15mins to fix up, i can check with my mech how many he have in stock asap n whoever wants it, tell me in adavnce.

 

4. btw sable 81 fuel max n superione r two different technology.

 

5. pingster i abt ya clutch thing i suggest come with me n let the pro do his magic on ya bike at ghc yishun den i will ask for discount cuz i know him very long oredi.

 

6. daniyal cya at ghc on sat can? btw balancer is like fork holder to prevent ya bike form shaking while corner at high speed, can ask my mech ah wah abt it he knows better...cheers mate!

[DaNiYaL]

Yo my brothers of varadero!

 

Juz want to share my thoughts....all along my aim was to get class 2 and ride bmw gs...but then, in my opinion....1000cc not worth it...might as well buy a car...then there is talk about suzuki v-strom...

 

Tell u wat..MAN! IT IS A BOMB!....maybe might get a suzuki v-strom in 2 years time...yellow colour...DAMN!

 

[visual]

2 yrs time.. Vstrom 2nd hand will be available at a good price..

i too wanna get Vstrom.. seems like a nice transition from vara125...

it sure does have the same styling as vara125...

 

DO hope that dream will come true.....

 

BMW GS.. *yeah lah.. cool bike.. sounds like a car* but heard the maintanence can kill you.....* if you can afford a bmw bike.. means u can actually afford a vios lah....

[Niti]

GHC Yishun, khatib prata shop 10am sharp;

 

1. simon

2. indy

3. visual

4.sable81

5. Daniyal

6. Niti