Honda NSR150SP Riders

[FireGunz]

Hey bro firegunz,

 

Ya now confirmed, those people who did 190Km or more before reserve are those who commute a lot via xpressway daily. I did an experiment - top up full tank fri nite & went for long rides the next 2 days. At least 80% of the time on xpressways. I also hit 190+km just before reserve. Being a little less aggressive on the throttle when moving off also helps to an extent. Previously i wld tarik to 6-7k revs in 1st & 2nd gear, now jus tarik to 5k revs.

 

Being in constant stop-go traffic is the real killer for fuel consumption. Ron 95 or 98 is irrelevant to the milage. If you do a lot of xpressway riding, 98 wld give the better riding experience due to a bit more zip (if you enjoy that sort of thing), but if always riding in congested slow moving situations 95, will do.

 

@Heathx - thanks for sharing your 2t insights. Actually no diff betn premix & pump dosages. Only diff is premix is more accurate as 2t is measured amt. For pump the dosage governed by the pump cable tension, so getting it right is by trial & error to some degree. I had the mech reduce my dosage so now a lot less smoke, but i worry now if he set it for too lean a dosage. I think i will ask him to increase a bit more. But so far riding 6-7k revs on the xpressway still seems quite smooth.

Hi bro job doggy, thank for sharing the value info to me. 😀

 

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[sporeknight]

I noticed my sp heats up very easily. When I was queueing up at woodlands ciq waiting to chk passport, 10 mins of idling the temp needle already at 3/4 point. So i switched off engine & just used leg power to move. Same thing when I was slowly riding around changi airport carpark looking for a parking spot. needle also at abt 3/4 pt when i finally parked bike.

 

But once I get out from such situations & enjoy free riding, the needle will drop to abt a constant 1/4 point. Is all this normal?

 

My coolant level still ok, but colour now chnged from blue green (at workshop) to something reddish (now). Time to flush radiator?? Is this the reason why bike heats up so easily? or the main reason is still lack of air movement during those idle/slow moments?

Yup. 10min or more idling (aft bike has been on road for awhile ie already warm up) yr temp needle will b abt 3/4 and engine side will quite hot. Even I jus chg EO n coolant. I guess its normal ba?

 

I hav ever noticed once my coolant at the plastic coolant tank under the seat from green bcom pinkish red - I guess tat is rust. B4 tat I used concentrated coolant mix wif water myself. So I guess the ratio NT rite or I used norm water for mxing tats y rust. Aft tat I used car coolant n make it a point to chg every 2yr ( seldom ride). So far ok.

 

When chg coolant try flush it wif pressurized hose wif water so dirt or rust can b flush out effectively. From radiator side n coolant tank side. Drain point at the engine right side rubber hose wif metal clip.

[jbdoggy]

Thks sporeknight. Im sending my bike to planet motorcycles tomorrow for uncle chong to repair my very abrupt front brake. I can ask him to flush & clean radiator at the same time.

 

Just to update: my temperamental gearbox problems has improved a whole lot tho not perfect. Still a problem finding N when stationary but at least very very rarely jammed gears now. Uncle chong just reduced my clutch cable tension foc. He said my problem is bcos clutch plates stuck. So release cable tension a bit to help open them up. Im quite tempted to save some $$ & have the clutch plates replaced tho.

Edited June 28, 2015 by jbdoggy

[wait4me]

chnage the radiator, sure good to go.

but then use leg force and manual push lo , sp thankfully is light

[SP]

I always pillion my friend to checkpoint. Once the temp rise I ask the pillion to get down and push the bike and I just steer the handler bar. Dont need leg power.

[FireGunz]

Hi senior, does anyone using dual cam for the SP?

 

Also is there anyone change the pillion footrest before? Does the pillion footrest can use it from eBike & will the inspection can pass?

 

By the way, just to check that does anyone konw the size of SP handle bar...

 

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Edited June 30, 2015 by FireGunz

[wait4me]

I always pillion my friend to checkpoint. Once the temp rise I ask the pillion to get down and push the bike and I just steer the handler bar. Dont need leg power.

 

poor pillion and lousy rider

[Heathx]

Harro harro, sorry MIA for a while. Hahaha....

 

Mileage, of course expressway will be better than start stop traffic. But when moving off, please dun reduce to 5k rpm. Because SP the RC Valve, must open every now and then, otherwise will have issue, because it's mechanical part and it needs to be moved every now and then... Since Singapore cannot go above 90kmph legally, take the chance when moving off to play your SP and hoot to 7-8k rpm before change gears... Trust me, after you hoot enough, you will feel your throttle is lighter and your bike is more smooth.

 

Petrol, at the least, use 95. Don't use 92 if you can. 92 burns easier, and at high temperatures, may have premature ignition. Meaning the petrol ignite again before your piston fully return to ignition position, thus damaging the engine. It doesn't happen often, but it can happen, especially when some people use those iridium spark plugs (normal plugs is enough already, dun need iridium). Iridium plugs can actually burn a hole into your piston. (google hole in piston 2 stroke for more reading)

 

Temperature, 10mins in stalled traffic, very normal for temp to go up to 3/4... When moving, it's usually around 1/5 - 1/4... This one, cannot complain liao, SP is actually very cooling bike, i realised after i upgrade to CBR600RR. Cls 2 bike no 100degrees no talk one, i can only wonder how my minions down there survive the constant sauna conditions.

 

Coolant, the white container behind your battery is the coolant overflow tank. Meaning whatever excess coolant that is not in your radiator is stored in that container. It should be at half full. Coolant wise, usually i just use the Maxima Cool-aid. Engine ice is not better imo, it just has a lower freezing point, but since Singapore has no winter, *shrug*. Coolant flush and change once a year is fine. Remember top up water if you see your reservoir level falling low...

 

Ah Chong is power!

 

Camera, i did not use the dual cam. I got myself a GoPro which i mount on my helmet like a teletubby. Reason cos i can point it left and right by turning my head, can bao doh idiots talking on phone or beo zharbor...

 

Pillion footrest i never change before, but i don't see why it cannot pass inspection. They are more interested in the rider's footrest. You can even remove pillion footrest and they won't care. Handlebar size i assume you're talking about the grips? Grips is more or less universal, except motocross bikes. Motocross grips different size.

[FireGunz]

Harro harro, sorry MIA for a while. Hahaha....

 

Mileage, of course expressway will be better than start stop traffic. But when moving off, please dun reduce to 5k rpm. Because SP the RC Valve, must open every now and then, otherwise will have issue, because it's mechanical part and it needs to be moved every now and then... Since Singapore cannot go above 90kmph legally, take the chance when moving off to play your SP and hoot to 7-8k rpm before change gears... Trust me, after you hoot enough, you will feel your throttle is lighter and your bike is more smooth.

 

Petrol, at the least, use 95. Don't use 92 if you can. 92 burns easier, and at high temperatures, may have premature ignition. Meaning the petrol ignite again before your piston fully return to ignition position, thus damaging the engine. It doesn't happen often, but it can happen, especially when some people use those iridium spark plugs (normal plugs is enough already, dun need iridium). Iridium plugs can actually burn a hole into your piston. (google hole in piston 2 stroke for more reading)

 

Temperature, 10mins in stalled traffic, very normal for temp to go up to 3/4... When moving, it's usually around 1/5 - 1/4... This one, cannot complain liao, SP is actually very cooling bike, i realised after i upgrade to CBR600RR. Cls 2 bike no 100degrees no talk one, i can only wonder how my minions down there survive the constant sauna conditions.

 

Coolant, the white container behind your battery is the coolant overflow tank. Meaning whatever excess coolant that is not in your radiator is stored in that container. It should be at half full. Coolant wise, usually i just use the Maxima Cool-aid. Engine ice is not better imo, it just has a lower freezing point, but since Singapore has no winter, *shrug*. Coolant flush and change once a year is fine. Remember top up water if you see your reservoir level falling low...

 

Ah Chong is power!

 

Camera, i did not use the dual cam. I got myself a GoPro which i mount on my helmet like a teletubby. Reason cos i can point it left and right by turning my head, can bao doh idiots talking on phone or beo zharbor...

 

Pillion footrest i never change before, but i don't see why it cannot pass inspection. They are more interested in the rider's footrest. You can even remove pillion footrest and they won't care. Handlebar size i assume you're talking about the grips? Grips is more or less universal, except motocross bikes. Motocross grips different size.

Hi Heathx, thank for the info.

 

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[wait4me]

Harro harro, sorry MIA for a while. Hahaha....

 

Mileage, of course expressway will be better than start stop traffic. But when moving off, please dun reduce to 5k rpm. Because SP the RC Valve, must open every now and then, otherwise will have issue, because it's mechanical part and it needs to be moved every now and then... Since Singapore cannot go above 90kmph legally, take the chance when moving off to play your SP and hoot to 7-8k rpm before change gears... Trust me, after you hoot enough, you will feel your throttle is lighter and your bike is more smooth.

 

Petrol, at the least, use 95. Don't use 92 if you can. 92 burns easier, and at high temperatures, may have premature ignition. Meaning the petrol ignite again before your piston fully return to ignition position, thus damaging the engine. It doesn't happen often, but it can happen, especially when some people use those iridium spark plugs (normal plugs is enough already, dun need iridium). Iridium plugs can actually burn a hole into your piston. (google hole in piston 2 stroke for more reading)

 

Temperature, 10mins in stalled traffic, very normal for temp to go up to 3/4... When moving, it's usually around 1/5 - 1/4... This one, cannot complain liao, SP is actually very cooling bike, i realised after i upgrade to CBR600RR. Cls 2 bike no 100degrees no talk one, i can only wonder how my minions down there survive the constant sauna conditions.

 

 

 

 

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my sides of my groin burnt when riding like 50km/h back from NSHW due to very very very bad jam , that day was the onli time i wish i riding sp ..

but those 2 marks that faded at my groin , when i shower always remind me of that fateful ....

 

 

 

DEAR FRIEND

 

i still miss you very much

[Sethyeo]

Hi, new rider here, my front suspension seem to be jammed, anyone know where to go to get it fixed and how much it cost:( when riding freaking scary cause the front end bouncing up and down.

[jbdoggy]

Hey bro heathx

 

Thanks for sharing. Ya i tried tarik 7-8k revs in 1st & 2nd gear when moving off & it was exhilarating!

 

Yes I also noticed the engine & throttle also becomes smoother after a fairly long expressway ride, maybe after abt 70km. Maybe its cos the higher speed exhaust gases blew out loose debris & carbon out of the exhaust pipe, idk.

[jbdoggy]

Hi, new rider here, my front suspension seem to be jammed, anyone know where to go to get it fixed and how much it cost:( when riding freaking scary cause the front end bouncing up and down.

 

I had a problem with my exhaust manifold joint & front forks leaking oil. I sent it to Planet motors at Ubi Road 1 & let Uncle Chong look into it. Damage done was $138. He changed all the exhaust & fork gaskets/liners + new fork oil. He also took the initiative to change my almost gone front brake pads (never realised it was so worn out). Was pleasantly surprised to find that he also tinkered around with my ignition key slot. Now I can turn the key smoothly w/o relying on all kinds of little tricks, like the way when i 1st bought it.

 

Down side is you either have to wait long a long time (big queue), or your bike needs to spend a day there, like in my case.

 

One thing puzzles me tho.... When i sent it there I still had abt half tank fuel. When I went to collect, fuel needle just touching red line. What happened to my fuel? Im wondering if all the fuel kena burnt cos mech keep revving the engine to test the manifold joint for leaks?? Or some of the workers went joy riding before working on my bike??

[Sethyeo]

I had a problem with my exhaust manifold joint & front forks leaking oil. I sent it to Planet motors at Ubi Road 1 & let Uncle Chong look into it. Damage done was $138. He changed all the exhaust & fork gaskets/liners + new fork oil. He also took the initiative to change my almost gone front brake pads (never realised it was so worn out). Was pleasantly surprised to find that he also tinkered around with my ignition key slot. Now I can turn the key smoothly w/o relying on all kinds of little tricks, like the way when i 1st bought it.

 

Down side is you either have to wait long a long time (big queue), or your bike needs to spend a day there, like in my case.

 

One thing puzzles me tho.... When i sent it there I still had abt half tank fuel. When I went to collect, fuel needle just touching red line. What happened to my fuel? Im wondering if all the fuel kena burnt cos mech keep revving the engine to test the manifold joint for leaks?? Or some of the workers went joy riding before working on my bike??

 

I see, cause I just got this bike, I didn't realize the fork didn't have suspension movement at all, thought sp like that one since it sits so low. I thinking of getting it there this evening to get it repaired.

 

By the way does planet do full servicing(correct me if I am wrong, only know people do this once a year so I don't know what it's called.) on sp? Want to do it to be on the safe side since previous owner never ride for months already, anyway,what the package includes and what price? Thanks.

[wait4me]

I had a problem with my exhaust manifold joint & front forks leaking oil. I sent it to Planet motors at Ubi Road 1 & let Uncle Chong look into it. Damage done was $138. He changed all the exhaust & fork gaskets/liners + new fork oil. He also took the initiative to change my almost gone front brake pads (never realised it was so worn out). Was pleasantly surprised to find that he also tinkered around with my ignition key slot. Now I can turn the key smoothly w/o relying on all kinds of little tricks, like the way when i 1st bought it.

 

Down side is you either have to wait long a long time (big queue), or your bike needs to spend a day there, like in my case.

 

One thing puzzles me tho.... When i sent it there I still had abt half tank fuel. When I went to collect, fuel needle just touching red line. What happened to my fuel? Im wondering if all the fuel kena burnt cos mech keep revving the engine to test the manifold joint for leaks?? Or some of the workers went joy riding before working on my bike??

aiya i took some so can reach home ma

[Heathx]

I see, cause I just got this bike, I didn't realize the fork didn't have suspension movement at all, thought sp like that one since it sits so low. I thinking of getting it there this evening to get it repaired.

 

By the way does planet do full servicing(correct me if I am wrong, only know people do this once a year so I don't know what it's called.) on sp? Want to do it to be on the safe side since previous owner never ride for months already, anyway,what the package includes and what price? Thanks.

 

When i first got my SP from one of the biggest motordiams in Singapore, i thought it was alright, but end up, my fork, when braking, naturally will go down, but stuck down and won't come up, until i accelerate and move off. Got many other issues slowly pop up over the first week also. Brought to my friend's mech, then found out the fork was dented and bent and they put many many washers to hold the wheel in place. Damn power... Had to replace my forks. You should really send to a reputable shop to have it checked. Don't play play, suspension, brakes and tyres cannot risk one.. Put at Ah Chong there may take a couple of days to rectify, but he does a good job and it's worth waiting. At least you will be at ease while riding. I'm not trying to promote Ah Chong, cos i actually go to another mech that opens at night cos Ah Chong usually closes by the time i go there after work. I usually go Ah Chong to change tyres or if i need something done on a Saturday morning.

 

The so-called full servicing is usually change of transmission oil, polishing of piston and block,flush coolant, check your RC valves, price range from $80-$150 depending on what is actually done. Depends on what you want to be done on your bike really. Different shop have different full service packages, you should ask them to spell it out fully for you. Some shop full service is just change transmission oil only, no joke. I hear liao i dunno whether to laugh or cry.

 

Hey bro heathx

 

Thanks for sharing. Ya i tried tarik 7-8k revs in 1st & 2nd gear when moving off & it was exhilarating!

 

Yes I also noticed the engine & throttle also becomes smoother after a fairly long expressway ride, maybe after abt 70km. Maybe its cos the higher speed exhaust gases blew out loose debris & carbon out of the exhaust pipe, idk.

 

Yup, that 7-8k rev thing is called 'blowing'. You can even go up to 10k rpm if you confident enough in your engine condition. The trick is not to hold it there constantly, but to do short bursts at that rpm, hence the "blow" term. There are 2 methods that people use mainly. Both methods also can, but personally i prefer method a, cos it's less noise pollution (road vs carpark) and some people say it's more effective when the engine is actually doing work by moving and carrying your weight as opposed to reving in neutral without load on it.

 

a) To illustrate this, will be on expressway, when not much cars around, drop to gear 3 or 4, then go until 80-90kmph, your rpm should be able to hit 7-8k, then release throttle a bit, let rpm drop to 6k, then rev again 7-8k hold for 5 seconds, then release let rpm drop to 6k, then rev again 7-8k 5 seconds, rinse and repeat. You don't need 70km distance, just 2km can feel the same way. After that you can just ride normal cruising mode.

 

b)

go to the 45 second mark

 

And you are right about the blowing out carbon part. If you feel your bike really no power, one area to check is the end can and the exhaust belly.

 

There was a time when i was using Maxima Castor 927 2T. It's a damn good 2T, but if you don't go high rev, it's quite problematic, cos the residue and carbon build up very fast. Anyway, for that period, i was recovering from fractures on my left hand, so didnt ride fast. The residue build up over the few months until my NSR150SP become C70... rpm stuck at 6.5k, cannot go higher, speed was capped at 110... I brought to my mech, thinking that servo motor spoil. He think for a while, then open up the endcan then he look inside, pass to me with his comical blank face. The moment i looked in, i laughed. It was so choked up with carbon that the exhaust air couldn't flow out properly, which caused the power loss... No choice, have to change a new end can. After change already, my SP macam can fly, the power difference is huge.

 

As for your fuel missing, it's normal. Mechanics need to test the bike to find the fault sometimes. The more they rev, the more your petrol burn... I doubt they have the time to go joyride on your bike. Hahaha... Sometimes can be the gauge inaccurate also. Cos there are times normal riding, when i move off, gauge show half tank. When i parked at my destination, gauge still show half tank. But later after my thing, i go start bike, gauge shows a bit more than 1/4 tank only.

 

Okie lunch break over... back to work.... >_

Edited July 9, 2015 by Heathx

[Sethyeo]

Yeah sia. should really put my bike at reputable to have it throughly checked, this 2 days I ride, my front end jumping siol. Yesterday called ah Chong, he say busy, some more I now only can go workshop at night.

[Heathx]

Yeah sia. should really put my bike at reputable to have it throughly checked, this 2 days I ride, my front end jumping siol. Yesterday called ah Chong, he say busy, some more I now only can go workshop at night.

 

I pmed you my mech's address, he open night time only, so you can check it out.

[jbdoggy]

I pmed you my mech's address, he open night time only, so you can check it out.

 

Yeah, pm me too the address. Good to hv backup just in case. Thanks

 

Thanks too for your earlier sharing. Wah! Mick Doohans NSR500. The NSR500 was a very dominant machine since 1985 during those 500cc GP days. It was the success of that machine which always made me want an NSR of whatever cc. Next target an NSR250 if i can find 1. If not, just continue with my sp until pass cl 2 & get meself a CBR600rr.

Edited July 10, 2015 by jbdoggy

[newbie rider here]

Hi everybody , im quite intrested in getting a honda sp (coe ends 2016 april (non renewable)). Problem is that the bike doesnt have fairing on it . i would like to ask anybody here have any lobang for honda sp fairing or any shop i can go to? Is the servicing , maintainance ex for SP? What are the things to lookout for when getting a second hand SP? would be great if someone could help.

[Heathx]

Hi everybody , im quite intrested in getting a honda sp (coe ends 2016 april (non renewable)). Problem is that the bike doesnt have fairing on it . i would like to ask anybody here have any lobang for honda sp fairing or any shop i can go to? Is the servicing , maintainance ex for SP? What are the things to lookout for when getting a second hand SP? would be great if someone could help.

 

To be frank, if the SP only have less than 1 yr to go, don't bother buying the fairing unless you plan to dekit and sell at loss when time to scrap. If you have to buy fairing, just get 2nd hand ones, but condition can be quite bad. If you really dun mind spending about $300-400 on brand new full set fairings, then check out Everfit and FJT. Servicing and maintenance for SP is not expensive, provided your bike condition was well taken care of. If not, then it can be quite chor to replace many spoiled parts. Things to look out for, or rather, hear for, will be the engine sound. If got weird clanging or weird sound that doesn't sound like normal engine, beware. Other than that, check brake pads, disc, forks, suspension, tyres, lights, cracks, etc.

[FireGunz]

I pmed you my mech's address, he open night time only, so you can check it out.

Can i had the address too. Thank.

 

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Edited July 11, 2015 by FireGunz

[Heathx]

Can i had the address too. Thank.

 

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PMed. I think next time i go i better buy drinks and supper for him, LOL! He one man show nia, later too busy to take a break.

[FireGunz]

PMed. I think next time i go i better buy drinks and supper for him, LOL! He one man show nia, later too busy to take a break.

My mech is Ah Heng, at Ang Mo Kio Autopoint level 5, shop name Inspire21. He only open after 7pm till midnight.

Thank bro, now even after 7pm I don't had worry about "where to find the shop" as most of the shop after 6pm. By the way, it the operation hours is Daily or Monday to ???.

 

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