Failed my TP test at BBDC :(

[kokseng_wong]

every station has a chance of getting demerit points. even when u are travelling from station to station. know where n when to check your blindspots also impt. imagine u are now only in the driving centre where all are learners drivers n riders. After u go out on public roads, things will be different. U will be on your own with no instructors. u only gain experiences over long periods of time with all sorts of drivers n riders. u don expect them to behave like learner riders n drivers in the centre. your alertness is doubled riding than driving. 

[nerllieeee]

7 minutes ago, kokseng_wong said:

every station has a chance of getting demerit points. even when u are travelling from station to station. know where n when to check your blindspots also impt. imagine u are now only in the driving centre where all are learners drivers n riders. After u go out on public roads, things will be different. U will be on your own with no instructors. u only gain experiences over long periods of time with all sorts of drivers n riders. u don expect them to behave like learner riders n drivers in the centre. your alertness is doubled riding than driving. 

Definitely. As much as the circuit is harder than road (for me), road needs extra alertness as we would meet different kinds of riders/drivers (not all of them are defensive).

COE now is just crazy, I think even after getting a license, I would most likely just rent first cause I am still saving up to get a 2nd hand bike.

However, I heard from some of my friends who are riders say that renting long term (like a month or 2) is not a great solution.

What do you think?

[nerllieeee]

7 hours ago, kokseng_wong said:

no need to have so many bikes in your mind. don confuse yourself. u can only ride one at a time. no hurry to buy bike after u passed. coe now is 9.5k.Very exp. ask around for opinion. total cost for brand new 2b bike nw at least 15k. coe +machine price + insurance + road tax + plus interest. different bike shops different policies n prices. u can do comparison. ask your frens if u have frens who ride bike.

 

COE now is just crazy, I think even after getting a license, I would most likely just rent first cause I am still saving up to get a 2nd hand bike.

However, I heard from some of my friends who are riders say that renting long term (like a month or 2) is not a great solution.

What do you think?

[Issac]

2 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

COE now is just crazy, I think even after getting a license, I would most likely just rent first cause I am still saving up to get a 2nd hand bike.

However, I heard from some of my friends who are riders say that renting long term (like a month or 2) is not a great solution.

What do you think?

Rental is a pure expense... most definitely not an ideal long term solution... don't really think 1-2 months is considered 'long term'.

Any form of motor vehicle in Singapore is a depreciating equipment, so your purchase price determines the depreciation that you will have to bear.

With COE prices so high, both new & 2nd hand bikes will be pricier than before. IMHO, if you can do without a bike for this period, may be worth watching from the sidelines as to how the COE develops over the next few bids.

[kokseng_wong]

3 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Definitely. As much as the circuit is harder than road (for me), road needs extra alertness as we would meet different kinds of riders/drivers (not all of them are defensive).

COE now is just crazy, I think even after getting a license, I would most likely just rent first cause I am still saving up to get a 2nd hand bike.

However, I heard from some of my friends who are riders say that renting long term (like a month or 2) is not a great solution.

What do you think?

my advise is do not hurry into buying bike after getting your licence. there's no necessary to rent a bike. Don waste dat money. some bike rental shop may not rent to u or rental may b exp cos u r new. buying 2nd bike bike involved risk of the condition of how the previous owner take care of the bike. u can check the age of the 2nd bike or its mileage. 

[鲁蛇不是鲁蛇]

On 9/2/2021 at 10:48 PM, nerllieeee said:

Hi! Good to know you passed! You definitely did great!

I struggled through every practical (at least 3 times) but I actually managed to go towards the end so that's a good start. My next TP is in 2 weeks too and I'm glad a fellow testee that took the TP with me managed to find me here hahahaha.

Thank you for the building my confidence!

don't worry, my practicals every lessons is 4 or 5 times. my tp test pass in one attempt. as long as right foot don't drop and every section don't veered off course, you will be able to pass de.

[鲁蛇不是鲁蛇]

On 9/4/2021 at 6:36 PM, nerllieeee said:

COE now is just crazy, I think even after getting a license, I would most likely just rent first cause I am still saving up to get a 2nd hand bike.

However, I heard from some of my friends who are riders say that renting long term (like a month or 2) is not a great solution.

What do you think?

I pass my 2b n 2a, still I haven't owned a bike.  just wait after your p-plate over and rent from tribecar.

I only rent once for a 2hr joy ride. 

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by 鲁蛇不是鲁蛇

[nerllieeee]

18 hours ago, 鲁蛇不是鲁蛇 said:

I pass my 2b n 2a, still I haven't owned a bike.  just wait after your p-plate over and rent from tribecar.

I only rent once for a 2hr joy ride. 

 

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

[鲁蛇不是鲁蛇]

3 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

rusty not really. ride inside carpark for 10minutes ok liao le. just don't lane split can't le. always be alert your 360 surronding.

[kokseng_wong]

5 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

 

5 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

actually the testers want to see your confident, safety & skills. U can show them these 3 components, u are there.

[Issac]

18 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

I certainly do! When I went back to class after the initial CB period... I had completely forgotten the 'feel' of riding a bike! Not surprisingly, failed that lesson miserably! In preparation of the test, was lucky to get revision lesson the day prior.

After getting my bike, it was all WFH... so made it a point to go out in the early morning or at night for rides around the neighbourhood to familiarise myself with the new ride and also not get 'rusty'!

[apogeeXX]

On 9/6/2021 at 3:56 PM, nerllieeee said:

Do you not feel rusty after not riding after a while? I tend to feel stiff after not riding for 2 weeks hahahaha

If you just passed your 2B, and you don't ride for a long time, chances are you will feel "rusty"; your body haven't really "remember" the feel yet.

if you have been riding for several years then stopped riding for a while, chances are your body still remembers what to do and how to move subconsciously

my own opinion, it's good enough to rent now and then for a few days in a row to enjoy a weekend ride, if you can afford it ...

renting long term maybe kind of costly and not worth it; save that money to buy a bike proper when the opportunity comes

also you can stay low until you level up to 24 points during this time

 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by apogeeXX

[Yen29]

Hey, do not give up. Yes easy said than done. Was from CDC… took me 3x to clear my prac 5 (circuit evaluation). Revision was all ok but IF twice. Realised i was being nervous that cause me to not perform.

During final evaluation, was raining heavily and thinking i would failed as i had never rode in the rain. I just tell myself go and try. Guess what i clear. 
 

Come TP day, i pray for rain so i wont expect too much of myself. And rain it did. And i cleared my TP. But because i took 3x to clear prac 5, i went for revision until i almost fill up my book. Instructor even asked if i have a room in CDC, kept seeing me in CDC for revision. 
 

Take a break of abt 2 weeks or so and restart revision again. All the best! 

[Issac]

1 hour ago, Yen29 said:

During final evaluation, was raining heavily and thinking i would failed as i had never rode in the rain. I just tell myself go and try.

The best time to experience riding in the rain is during lessons coz under the guidance and supervision of the instructors. When you experience it on the road for real, will be more prepared.

[kokseng_wong]

17 hours ago, Yen29 said:

Hey, do not give up. Yes easy said than done. Was from CDC… took me 3x to clear my prac 5 (circuit evaluation). Revision was all ok but IF twice. Realised i was being nervous that cause me to not perform.

During final evaluation, was raining heavily and thinking i would failed as i had never rode in the rain. I just tell myself go and try. Guess what i clear. 
 

Come TP day, i pray for rain so i wont expect too much of myself. And rain it did. And i cleared my TP. But because i took 3x to clear prac 5, i went for revision until i almost fill up my book. Instructor even asked if i have a room in CDC, kept seeing me in CDC for revision. 
 

Take a break of abt 2 weeks or so and restart revision again. All the best! 

if u have questions, note down on paper. before start of pract, ask the instructor in charge of your lesson.  or ask any available instructor.

[Pisces44]

On 9/2/2021 at 10:12 PM, Jeebberish said:

Hi nerllieeee,

I understand how u felt (or are still feeling).

I also took the TP test the same day as u at BBDC. We were fellow testees.

I failed my first TP 2 weeks ago that day. And I managed to pass. However, the feelings that hit me when I failed were exactly how u described: utter disappointment and despair. And I was not able to function fully for a while.

I don’t know what I can say or do to motivate you. Just this: never give up, and believe in yourself.
 

U must know this: to be able to go for a TP test means that you are of a certain standard already. So believe in yourself, book your next TP, and before that, practise as much as you can, be it RC or RR. And you will eventually make it.

FYI, I’m 47, and was the oldest guy for that test (I was no.1!). I was not proficient during the practicals (failed 3.01 plank 5 times!), but I kept practicing… and eventually I conquered the plank till it became a non-issue to me during the test.

Don’t ever give up. Keep going. Keep practicing. And you’ll get there. You definitely will!

hi Jeebberish .....we sama sam ... i passed my 2B (TP 1 try) last yr @ 45.

I went for lesson 2 (which include planks) 7 times !!!

[Jeebberish]

7 hours ago, Pisces44 said:

hi Jeebberish .....we sama sam ... i passed my 2B (TP 1 try) last yr @ 45.

I went for lesson 2 (which include planks) 7 times !!!

Hi Pisces44!

Good to hear from a fellow 40+ rider. And great job clearing on your first attempt!

The plank was my archilles' heel and there was a moment when I felt I will never ever clear it. Then I dug in and kept practising it, went for many RCs to try and master it, so it won't become a mental issue during the test. Eventually, it became my strongest circuit segment!

I must say the basics of clutch and throttle control and going slow is for me, the most fundamental aspect of riding. It governs general riding and overall stability. I could go fast and I didn't have much problems with the S course, pylon slalom etc, but slow speed control I didn't always have full control, resulting in sloppiness and wobbliness everywhere. Trying to master the plank helped me in general riding stability and really improved me! Now I love the plank to bits! I would ask all beginner riders to master their clutch control from the beginning, or at least pay lots of attention to it!

Anyway, long story short, it's been an interesting learning journey at BBDC, especially for a (relatively) older first-timer like me. Many people ask me if i revoked/kan-tong hahahahah!


 

[WILBOTGEEK-BIKE]

Edited September 12, 2021 by WILBOTGEEK-BIKE
First post

[Issac]

10 hours ago, WILBOTGEEK-BIKE said:

 good sharing... when I was preparing for my test, had to drive around the route a few times to make sure I don't screw up by taking the wrong route!

[coldbrew]

11 hours ago, WILBOTGEEK-BIKE said:

damn, bbdc's route looks so long and confusing!

58 minutes ago, Issac said:

 good sharing... when I was preparing for my test, had to drive around the route a few times to make sure I don't screw up by taking the wrong route!

i believe this is the first 2b bbdc test route video that's put up on youtube right? I remember searching for all 3 schools but i could never find bbdc's 

[nerllieeee]

2 minutes ago, coldbrew said:

damn, bbdc's route looks so long and confusing!

i believe this is the first 2b bbdc test route video that's put up on youtube right? I remember searching for all 3 schools but i could never find bbdc's 

Yup,this is the first out of nothing hahaha. The route can get confusing and it feels like you're going in a loop

[Jeebberish]

3 hours ago, coldbrew said:

damn, bbdc's route looks so long and confusing!

i believe this is the first 2b bbdc test route video that's put up on youtube right? I remember searching for all 3 schools but i could never find bbdc's 

 

3 hours ago, nerllieeee said:

Yup,this is the first out of nothing hahaha. The route can get confusing and it feels like you're going in a loop

 

Yeah the route was confusing for me too haha. 

Hard to remember landmarks also, as sometimes we have to focus on the bike controls as well as checks etc.

So I remembered it with this simple flow: all the road turns are LEFT, except for one RIGHT turn (junction towards the U-turn).

[nerllieeee]

I passed my TP today! Thank you everyone for the motivating words and advices!

Now, time to think about what to do next HAHAHA

[Issac]

2 minutes ago, nerllieeee said:

I passed my TP today! Thank you everyone for the motivating words and advices!

Now, time to think about what to do next HAHAHA

CONGRATULATIONS!!! 

[Jeebberish]

Woohoo! Congrats!!! You must be over the moon today!!! Well done!

Edited September 14, 2021 by Jeebberish