[cdc] 2b

[lesterq]

So I am now at my Lesson 8.

 

Booked 2 lesson 8 this saturday after a road revision ytd night after my lesson 7 on monday night.

 

And saying i am excited is an understatement.

 

 

Lesson 1-4 = 2 times

Lesson 5 = 3 times

Lesson 6 = 5 times

Lesson 7 = 4 times

[dineze]

Both lesson 8s on the same day? A bit wasted if you pass the first one, one lesson is around $50 if I remember correctly.

 

circuit revision more impt imo

[simeone82]

Hi all.

After taking about 2 weeks break, today my 6th attempt on the lesson 3.. finally pass it today...

Finally timing got 10s or less.. actual timing dunno as instructor just said ok good..

Going to lesson 4 for e brake , plank and pylon next week.

Thanks you all for the tips and videos.. it helps!

[lesterq]

Both lesson 8s on the same day? A bit wasted if you pass the first one, one lesson is around $50 if I remember correctly.

 

circuit revision more impt imo

 

My circuit top notch already. I don't drop plank, figure 8 sweeswee and e brake swee swee.

I did like 7? circuit revisions.

 

Hi all.

After taking about 2 weeks break, today my 6th attempt on the lesson 3.. finally pass it today...

Finally timing got 10s or less.. actual timing dunno as instructor just said ok good..

Going to lesson 4 for e brake , plank and pylon next week.

Thanks you all for the tips and videos.. it helps!

 

Congratulations

[Engel666]

Haha wah liaoz.... Taking pract 3 later, reading all the comments bout it makes me nervous now...

[lesterq]

Haha wah liaoz.... Taking pract 3 later, reading all the comments bout it makes me nervous now...

 

Slope. Rev high, Release brake slowly while releasing to biting point.

 

Figure 8 / Crank course. Most important is your eyeline. Where you look your bike "follow".

 

Good luck!

[FTW.]

After seeing some posts, wah, I feel SSDC really so much better in terms of faster progression sia...

[simeone82]

Hi riders!

Today pass my 1st lesson 4. Lucky never rain in the evening.

Slightly late today due to work. Chose a bike that rear brake and hit 30 km front lights faulty...but lucky to clear.

Finally can book circuit revision... Intend to go for 3 rounds of cr before pract 5. Thanks to all the tips in earlier posts!

[hushpuppy]

Pass practice 4 in one attempt, you are good man!

 

Hi riders!

Today pass my 1st lesson 4. Lucky never rain in the evening.

Slightly late today due to work. Chose a bike that rear brake and hit 30 km front lights faulty...but lucky to clear.

Finally can book circuit revision... Intend to go for 3 rounds of cr before pract 5. Thanks to all the tips in earlier posts!

[simeone82]

Any riders can help on the below for my pract 5. Went revision yeah is fun to practice but got the below situations. Haven really ask instructor be is eager to go practice.

 

When exiting bike nursery to left turn, slope down and turn left, entering fig 8, after fig 8 junction turn left if stationary during traffic light , do you check back right and left for blind spot like crank or Check back right and move then quickly check left blinsspot before left turn? Because I see many just check back right and vroom oofff..

 

Do you inch out at the stop line only for right turn as you can't see traffic from left? I see people turning left also inch out is that correct?

 

If you are the first bike behind a car that suddenly stop, or junction, or zebra crossing do you try to keep left and let behind form up two rows or is one row?

 

Lastly the bend near plank, if there are a row of cars queuing all the way from start bend till right where you can't see, do you keep right early to turn right later into the slope junction or keep left all the way after bend and pray the learner give way to you to turn right later to the slope?

[dineze]

1. If you are at the stop line, check back and left immediately. If you are the second bike, move forward then check left.

 

2. Inch out only when something is blocking your view. In the circuit inch out at the junction just outside the bike area only.

 

3. For road going straight, stop in 2 rows.

 

4. Keep left and go into the right lane after the bend. If the car signal right to go into their circuit, overtake. If they are going straight let them pass then change lane.

 

Hard to understand what you are saying since your wording is really confusing. Hopefully I got it right.

[simeone82]

 

2. Inch out only when something is blocking your view. In the circuit inch out at the junction just outside the bike area only.

3. For road going straight, stop in 2 rows.

4. Keep left and go into the right lane after the bend. If the car signal right to go into their circuit, overtake. If they are going straight let them pass then change lane.

Hard to understand what you are saying since your wording is really confusing. Hopefully I got it right.

 

Hi thanks for your advice.

sometimes some instructor say this then some say others..

for 2.)all along my lesson I inch out stop line before turning to left or right. but during my slope lesson when down slope to turn left, I inch out as I can't see the blind wall if there is traffic,

instructor say cannot inch out when I am turning left, just right traffic clear and I can turn left..

for 3.) ok so that means when behind slow cars go straight or zebra crossing go straight, if I happen to stop as the first bike then I should keep a little left for back bike to join 2 rows? What happens if say front bike stop in centre as car stop then me as 2nd bike I just form left side behind him?

for 4.) I actually encounter before rows of cars from start of bend to end of bend. Not sure if ok to stop the bike after bend if fail to keep right to turn right. Because one particular practice for lesson 3, I keep left from bend to end of bend, try to keep right but some learner car just go straight fast and behind a lot of traffic (cars)

Going to clear these questions with instructor tomorrow..

[dineze]

2. no need to inch out if nothing is blocking your view, you will probly encounter this outside in prac 6. Just listen to that instructor.

 

3. Stop to the left behind the first bike.

 

4. This one I don't know. Won't have so much traffic for tp or assessments so nothing to worry

[simeone82]

Dear Riders,

Good Evening!

I just failed my lesson 5 (1st time). Sian so sway sway the instructor I had argument before one is taking the test today.

Warm up round seems ok. Then test, Everything seems ok but when I exiting fig 8 and stopping and despite kicking many times down.

I am still engaging in neutral...So while stopped, i put right leg down to change to gear 1 and I thought I IF already...

Ride finish wait half an hour for result..

 

Slalom take 6.18s and it 4 points..and the above costs 4 points for fail to change to appropriate gear before turning/stopping..Thought I pass but sadly no.. I got 2 points for incorrect positioning becos never form 2 rows to go straight...

 

Then 4+4 points for the below...

Got this scenario, after finish shalom about maybe 1 and half bike length away, there are many bikes parked there, then my blind spot (next lane) got 1 biker want to come in. I stop my bike wait for biker in, then turn out...instructor say I change lane abruptly and wobble when changing lane...He told me he could have give me 8 points for cause other vehicle to slow down or take evasive action...

[di_andrei]

There will sometimes be debatable situations where you may disagree with the instructor. Best advice is to ignore it and move on, it's good practice for the TP test where you definitely cannot argue with the TP. On a more serious note, do try to avoid these "marginal" situations wherever possible. For slalom, before you move off - be aware of what is happening in the lane on your right. If someone is coming, give them a few seconds to bypass you. If you do move off and are parallel to them, I think your decision was right - you cannot just change lane, you should give way first. During the TP test this will not be an issue, as the lane you are in will be empty - no parked bikes or long queue, so you can just stay in your lane until the right lane is clear.

[simeone82]

Normally after each lesson, roughly you will know whether you pass or fail one.. earlier on I seriously thought I failed becos stopped after fig 8

before crank course, the gear is neutral despite my kicking down many times..Other than that all my other circuit is ok.. But when he told me no immediate failure but tell me my mistakes especially the above, I just keep quiet and he hand my training booklet and say try again..

[jbdoggy]

when I exiting fig 8 and stopping and despite kicking many times down.

I am still engaging in neutral...So while stopped, i put right leg down to change to gear 1 and I thought I IF already...

 

Right foot down 1st when coming to a stop is an IF, this thing tends to happen when you stop too abruptly. Usually caused by a bit too much front brake.

 

But in your situation its not cos you stopped left foot down 1st, the way it should always be.

 

Anytime you encounter a situation like you described above, follow the entire ebrake safety check procedure... But if at the start of the crank there, you must also add chk left blindspot before moving off. I got penalised before for no safety check (chk bk right) when I put right foot down when trying to kick 1st gear at the blindwall junction there. (got stuck in neutral when coming to a stop)

 

Pumping the clutch helps in loosening the gears.

[Stealth123]

Do you know if we will get points just from the fact that we stop on Neutral?

 

 

Right foot down 1st when coming to a stop is an IF, this thing tends to happen when you stop too abruptly. Usually caused by a bit too much front brake.

 

But in your situation its not cos you stopped left foot down 1st, the way it should always be.

 

Anytime you encounter a situation like you described above, follow the entire ebrake safety check procedure... But if at the start of the crank there, you must also add chk left blindspot before moving off. I got penalised before for no safety check (chk bk right) when I put right foot down when trying to kick 1st gear at the blindwall junction there. (got stuck in neutral when coming to a stop)

 

Pumping the clutch helps in loosening the gears.

[jbdoggy]

stealth123,

 

Theres nothing in the checklist which says there is a penalty for accidentally stopping in neutral, but there is a penalty for not observing safety checks; trying to get out of neutral w/o doing them when youre supposed too is a penalty, as happened to me during my L5. 4 pts.

 

Following the ebrake safety procedures for such situations was what was told to me during my actual test briefing, when I raised the question of getting stuck in neutral when stopping.

 

Youre waiting for test now?

[Stealth123]

heh heh... just a few more days now..... *pray*

 

stealth123,

 

Theres nothing in the checklist which says there is a penalty for accidentally stopping in neutral, but there is a penalty for not observing safety checks when trying to get out of neutral, as happened to me during my L5. 4 pts.

 

Following the ebrake safety procedures for such situations was what was told to me during my actual test briefing, when I raised the question of getting stuck in neutral when stopping.

 

Youre waiting for test now?

[jbdoggy]

Well, good luck mate. On the 20th isnt it?

 

I think you'd find that doing the test might be easier then L8! Seriously....

[Stealth123]

Well, good luck mate. On the 20th isnt it?

 

I think you'd find that doing the test might be easier then L8! Seriously....

 

Yeh 20th...

 

Why do u say actual test easier than L8? Less cars / bikes in circuit?

 

But Hor, L8 fail dy wait 2.5 days to retake, test fall off plank wait 2.5 months *grumble*

 

 

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[jbdoggy]

On test day, circuit quite empty. Very very few cars & Only your fellow bike testees around.

 

Just be sure youre firm about the forming up parts (single or pairs), If tester calls everyone out from the nursery quickly just like on my day, chances are youre gonna ride out on the roads in 2s or 3s by the time you reach the main gate after finishing your ebrake. Those 2 pts are the silliest to give away in my opinion, apart from the possibility of causing some confusion to your fellow testees.

 

So if you hv someone stopping in the middle of the lane where you know you should be in pairs, just form up as if youre the 3rd bike. Dont squeeze in beside him/her.

[Stealth123]

On test day, circuit quite empty. Very very few cars & Only your fellow bike testees around.

 

Just be sure youre firm about the forming up parts (single or pairs), If tester calls everyone out from the nursery quickly just like on my day, chances are youre gonna ride out on the roads in 2s or 3s by the time you reach the main gate after finishing your ebrake. Those 2 pts are the silliest to give away in my opinion, apart from the possibility of causing some confusion to your fellow testees.

 

So if you hv someone stopping in the middle of the lane where you know you should be in pairs, just form up as if youre the 3rd bike. Dont squeeze in beside him/her.

 

 

if not ... that will be a very expensive 8 points *ouch*

[simeone82]

Right foot down 1st when coming to a stop is an IF, this thing tends to happen when you stop too abruptly. Usually caused by a bit too much front brake.

 

But in your situation its not cos you stopped left foot down 1st, the way it should always be.

 

Anytime you encounter a situation like you described above, follow the entire ebrake safety check procedure... But if at the start of the crank there, you must also add chk left blindspot before moving off. I got penalised before for no safety check (chk bk right) when I put right foot down when trying to kick 1st gear at the blindwall junction there. (got stuck in neutral when coming to a stop)

 

Pumping the clutch helps in loosening the gears.

 

I was told by instructor any point of time during circuit other than ebrake if right foot down is immediate failure.

Well I think they are training us to be only left leg down. I never did the safety check when I switch gear and was not penalized but well

I guess they knew I fail anyway.. I am going to try to see if can before stopping and try pumping the clutch while down gear during CR..