Kawasaki ZX10R Technicial Issue!

[suix]

Originally posted by GerardSantaCruz@Oct 1 2006, 09:23 PM

nice seeing some new faces at the dam.

[VoLcAnO]

Originally posted by CBR_Rider@Oct 1 2006, 09:20 PM

eh solution??? dun bring pillion lor

must bring her sometimes ma.. jian shi jian shi..

[suix]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 11:59 AM

must bring her sometimes ma.. jian shi jian shi..

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 11:59 AM

must bring her sometimes ma.. jian shi jian shi..

i think she is more bored than anything else.

[VoLcAnO]

She wana tag ma.. so bring her go see see lor.. She likes 636!

[suix]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 02:02 PM

She wana tag ma.. so bring her go see see lor.. She likes 636!

Now who wouldn't like 636?

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 02:02 PM

She wana tag ma.. so bring her go see see lor.. She likes 636!

what are u waiting for? buy her one!

[VoLcAnO]

I dun work in the state's dollar bills printing department guys.. but i do hope she gets her class 2 den we SHARE a 636!!

[GerardSantaCruz]

oh. she cl2a now? when cl2?

[VoLcAnO]

2B on the way..

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 03:45 PM

2B on the way..

warrao!

2+yrs more sia!

[VoLcAnO]

hEHE.. Gerard, are u gg bikeworkz anytime soon?

[zhybrid]

Originally posted by clubhead@Oct 1 2006, 01:30 AM

The 'timing' actually refers to the ignition timing. So, advancing the timing actually means having your spark plugs ignite the fuel in the combustion chamber earlier than what was supposed to, nothing to do with fuel coming in earlier. Similarly, retarding the timing means having the spark plugs fire later than what is supposed to.

 

The ideal way to adjust this in my opinion is through a Power Commander on a dyno. In this way, you can adjust the ignition timing (advance or retard) depending on the rpm/load/fueling.

 

Generally, if you advance your ignition timing within the tolerance, you will get power. However, if you over advance your ignition timing, you will get detonation/pinging of your engine. This means the fuel self combust by itself before it's supposed to which will lead to bad things like burst piston rings, etc which means muchos $$ for engine overhaul. So only let someone qualified to adjust your ignition timing.

 

For such an advance engine on the ZX10R, it's already operating at close to max efficiency with a high compression ratio. So any adjustment to the ignition timing MUST be done carefully else pinging will easily happen. Hope not to see any brothers out there with blown engines man

 

Have fun tuning

Yo bro, thanks very much for the clearer explanation. i was actually struggling to put into words... guess i really returned all my stuff to my lecturers.. put i just need to clarify why i used the term allow fuel earlier... it's because if u allow the spark plug to ignite earlier but there is no fuel, the spark plugs cannot ignite anything....

hmmmm.... something to ponder about.

but seriously, thanks for sharing. it's explained very well.

my bad:P

[zhybrid]

something to add. i did mention doing advanceing by computer, just that i do not want to mention the word power comander. and when doing advancing by changing the ignition advancer, it is within the advance tolerance, because u can only advance or retard up to 5 degrees.

one more thing, i recall usually bikes do advancing to accomodate turbo charging. i don't know if i'm right about this, please enlighten me.

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 05:59 PM

hEHE.. Gerard, are u gg bikeworkz anytime soon?

when do u wanna go?

[VoLcAnO]

These few days to fix my exhaust note..

[clubhead]

Originally posted by zhybrid@Oct 2 2006, 08:12 PM

...i recall usually bikes do advancing to accomodate turbo charging...

It's ok lah... why don't want to mention Power Commander? It's just about the best thing out here to help you optimise your engine's fueling/ignition. I know Yoshimura EMS also does the same thing but the interface is not open last I know so can't DIY. Those things like ignition advancer may adjust the ignition timing across the entire rpm range, not like Power Commander which can do it every few hundred rpm. So the tuning is a lot more fine. I'm not selling the Power Commander here I'm still considering it for my bike as the stock setup is power enough though I admit the Power Commander will still iron out the rough fueling spots.

 

Anyway, if you're turbo charging, the timing will likely need to be retarded rather than the other way round. It may of course depends on other factors as well though. Reason being a turbo charged combustion chamber is usually hotter than a NA chamber, hence, more chances of detonation if the ignition is advanced. You can of course use higher octane fuel or even race gas to address this as well. It's the same concept if you increase the compression ratio of your engine by using thinner cylinder head gasket. You'll need to retard ignition generally.

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by VoLcAnO@Oct 2 2006, 08:59 PM

These few days to fix my exhaust note..

im free after work 630 onwards

u call me. i wanna change coolant. waterwetter.. wooooot..

[VoLcAnO]

how abt fri?i knock off at 6 tat day..

[GerardSantaCruz]

should be fine.

[cesspito]

hi

 

need help... anyone knows where to get v-force reeds valve???

 

Thanks!!

[cesspito]

Hi

 

anyone knows which shop is the sole distributor of kawasaki bikes?? Thanks!!

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by cesspito@Oct 3 2006, 03:02 PM

Hi

 

anyone knows which shop is the sole distributor of kawasaki bikes?? Thanks!!

evershine. as for your 1st question. i dunno.

[cesspito]

Originally posted by GerardSantaCruz@Oct 3 2006, 03:38 PM

evershine. as for your 1st question. i dunno.

Thanks man!!! btw where is evershine?? haha

[GerardSantaCruz]

Evershine Auto Co (1977) Pte Ltd

176 Sin Ming Drive #01-22 SIN MING AUTOCARE Singapore 575721

Tel : 64535009

Fax : 64535010