coolant

[VistaII]

Originally posted by Exodus79@Nov 27 2002, 09:07 PM

Im using "ENGINE ICE" it cost me including flushing,bascially it does not need to mix with water juz flush and pour..its blue in color..quite happy with it...cools off fast IMO.

 

Hi,

 

May I know at which bike shop you change this engine ice coolent ?

 

Thanks.

[TeePeePhobe]

Originally posted by MS@Mar 17 2005, 03:03 PM

No. Battery water and distilled water is totally different. Although some pple pour distilled water into batteries. It works as it dilutes the electrolyte but increasing the content letting it cover the metal plates in the battery. But its is not advisable as it shortens life spans of battery. I have come across many drivers and trainees in my office resorting to use distilled water for their batteries. This is not the right practice. Battery water can be purchased from any automobile shop. Do not use it if seal is broken. To test the usability, pour out a bit on the floor. Bubbles will immediately form with a 'sss' sound as though its eating into the ground. If not then it fails.

 

Battery water is commonly known as electrolyte. It is acidic and non potable. Even if it comes into contact with skin, you must wash it away. Else you'll start to itch. If fabric comes into contact, it will discolour and holes will start to appear.

 

Distilled water in itself is pure water (H2O) There is no other particles inside. It is also potable. Distilled water is meant to mix with ethyleneglycol to form coolant.

 

For more info do PM me.

(MOTUL INUGEL EXPERT - something you can trust for cooling)

Distilled/Deionised water is sold as "Battery Water" in singapore. Battery acid is another thing altogether and is not regularly sold over the counter these days, it is a controlled item. Adding "Battery Water" to batteries is the right thing to do, you're not supposed to top acid after the 1st time, u just screw up the chemical balance. Battery water can also be used for radiator. No offence dude, but that's alot of wrong info.

[d0n]

Originally posted by TeePeePhobe@Apr 15 2005, 07:18 PM

Distilled/Deionised water is sold as "Battery Water" in singapore. Battery acid is another thing altogether and is not regularly sold over the counter these days, it is a controlled item. Adding "Battery Water" to batteries is the right thing to do, you're not supposed to top acid after the 1st time, u just screw up the chemical balance. Battery water can also be used for radiator. No offence dude, but that's alot of wrong info.

hm..then how abt those bottled distilled water sold off the shelves of supermarkets? i know those are meant for drinking...but usable for radiator?

[TeePeePhobe]

Originally posted by d0n^@Apr 16 2005, 12:10 AM

hm..then how abt those bottled distilled water sold off the shelves of supermarkets? i know those are meant for drinking...but usable for radiator?

If the label is to be believed, then yes. Human have little adverse effects to a little mineral salts in the water sold, and will probably be non the wiser with a little sloppy QC. I stick with 'battery water' myself, but I do admit that we're mostly probably splitting hairs here.

[MS]

Originally posted by TeePeePhobe@Apr 15 2005, 07:18 PM

Distilled/Deionised water is sold as "Battery Water" in singapore. Battery acid is another thing altogether and is not regularly sold over the counter these days, it is a controlled item. Adding "Battery Water" to batteries is the right thing to do, you're not supposed to top acid after the 1st time, u just screw up the chemical balance. Battery water can also be used for radiator. No offence dude, but that's alot of wrong info.

IC. May I know where is the source of your info? I can go and check out too and if its true, Inform my boss to refer to higher authority to stop all this practice as many pple are doing that now. Thanx.

 

Currently, I've been instructed by my senior that if the battery volt is unable to give the desired voltage eg. 8V-11V for a 12V battery (If lower than 8V condemn the battery) , try to top it up the balance with distilled water first. Then charge it. But if the battery is unable to charge up, Pour out the entire battery water and refill it with battery water and charge again. If still unable to get the correct voltage then condemn the battery.

 

Thats new info to me though we're talking about coolant and off topic to batteries. thanx.

[TeePeePhobe]

Originally posted by MS@Apr 22 2005, 01:40 PM

IC. May I know where is the source of your info? I can go and check out too and if its true, Inform my boss to refer to higher authority to stop all this practice as many pple are doing that now. Thanx.

 

Currently, I've been instructed by my senior that if the battery volt is unable to give the desired voltage eg. 8V-11V for a 12V battery (If lower than 8V condemn the battery) , try to top it up the balance with distilled water first. Then charge it. But if the battery is unable to charge up, Pour out the entire battery water and refill it with battery water and charge again. If still unable to get the correct voltage then condemn the battery.

 

Thats new info to me though we're talking about coolant and off topic to batteries. thanx.

 

It is common knowledge lah. The acid is not supposed to disappear, it converts between lead sulphate when battery is used, and back to acid when charged. U top up water because water gets eletolysed into hydrogen during charging (the bubbling u see), so need to replenish to maintain concentration of acid. If u keep adding acid, u boost the discharge chemical reaction (battery is 'revived'). But u get excess acid concentration and does not help in recharging process, eventually ruining the battery. It seems u work in the technical line of some fleet operations? Been there done that, each company has lots of very strange practices, part of the culture handed down by the lao jiao TOs.

 

Anyways, I just bought a carton of 'battery water' yesterday for a coolant change with a bunch of friends, the bottle clearly states the only impurity is 3 ppm of calcium, not acid.

[299]

when reached at high temp of 104 deg, water seems to pour out frm the radiator cap,may i knoe why?Is it normal if top up wit water overfilled?Thks.

[Replica]

woohoo.. thks to this thread, i finally pick up the courage to DIY my radiator flushing today, using vinegar and distill water.. this thread has been of great help!!!... thks ppl!!!~ :cheer:

[Replica]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 25 2005, 05:37 PM

when reached at high temp of 104 deg, water seems to pour out frm the radiator cap,may i knoe why?Is it normal if top up wit water overfilled?Thks.

the radiator cap might not be able to hold the pressure went its heat up, cos dats wat happened to my fireblade's radiator cap, problem solve after i change a new one...

[acidcode]

for the temperature of the engine... its not only the coolant plays apart. the engine plays a massive difference. synthetic oils sometimes doesnt claim what they can do.

[Replica]

Originally posted by acidcode@May 2 2005, 01:46 PM

for the temperature of the engine... its not only the coolant plays apart. the engine plays a massive difference. synthetic oils sometimes doesnt claim what they can do.

ya.. i agree too... wat i found out was the temp on my bike decreases faster after a jam as compare previously... and i didnt know i can flush the radiator using vinegar and water... though all along the only way is to use the radiator cleaner...

[299]

Originally posted by [R]eplica@May 3 2005, 12:39 PM

ya.. i agree too... wat i found out was the temp on my bike decreases faster after a jam as compare previously... and i didnt know i can flush the radiator using vinegar and water... though all along the only way is to use the radiator cleaner...

after u hv flushed,what kind of coolent u top up?

[hachi]

Water wetter cheap and good. I still have some left should be enough for u.

[299]

Originally posted by hachi@May 3 2005, 07:54 PM

Water wetter cheap and good. I still have some left should be enough for u.

need to add distill water(batt water)?

[299]

anyone tried engine ice?Blue in color.

[Replica]

Originally posted by ProjectD@May 3 2005, 07:01 PM

after u hv flushed,what kind of coolent u top up?

i jus top up wif distill water only... nv mixed wif any coolant...

[Replica]

Originally posted by ProjectD@May 3 2005, 08:40 PM

anyone tried engine ice?Blue in color.

heard engine ice will heat up faster... not sure how true though, nv tried before..

[hachi]

Originally posted by ProjectD@May 3 2005, 08:15 PM

need to add distill water(batt water)?

Yes, just buy distill water at NTUC at $0.65 for 1.5litre, I guess u need one as I have some more here. Just buy I mix for u provided u know how to drain ur own bike.

If not I guess u better do it at shop..

[299]

any brand name for the distilled water to look out for?

[Replica]

Originally posted by ProjectD@May 3 2005, 09:32 PM

any brand name for the distilled water to look out for?

any distill water will be fine.. no perference..

[hachi]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Apr 25 2005, 05:37 PM

when reached at high temp of 104 deg, water seems to pour out frm the radiator cap,may i knoe why?Is it normal if top up wit water overfilled?Thks.

Might be ur radiator cap spoil and time to change ur coolant.

Cap must change 2-3 years.

[lance666]

Where to get water wetter? price?

[hachi]

Motor X about $25..

[299]

how abt engine ice?How much it cost?

[hachi]

Motor world selling engine ice about $35 per litre?