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[ReBornBikeR]

Originally posted by s4(7.5)honda@Sep 2 2005, 08:26 PM

hi spectrum .

nice of u for all the above postings on safety.

 

my personal belief. :

 

i RIDE LIKE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO KILL ME..

 

I m wondering if any members here adopt the same attitude as me.

With this attitude, you will live longer

 

I do too

[Spectrum]

Originally posted by s4(7.5)honda@Sep 2 2005, 08:26 PM

hi spectrum .

nice of u for all the above postings on safety.

 

my personal belief. :

 

i RIDE LIKE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO KILL ME..

 

I m wondering if any members here adopt the same attitude as me.

Basically... this an Attitude that would help us to Survive on the Street.

Eg. Ridin' into a Battle Zone Kind-of-thing...

 

Well, No One really want to Kill Any of Us..

But the fact is motor cyclist Gets Knock down Every other week.

(Just read the Papers)

Just Remember! U need not be any of the above Statistic!

 

And Just by have an Attitude as "u" & "reborn" ...

Greatly reduces your % pts in being a contribuiting statistic.

Way-to-Go!

:thumb:

[Ravon11]

Originally posted by s4(7.5)honda@Sep 2 2005, 08:26 PM

hi spectrum .

nice of u for all the above postings on safety.

 

my personal belief. :

 

i RIDE LIKE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO KILL ME..

 

I m wondering if any members here adopt the same attitude as me.

Me too..

I ride lik every object n veh are dangerous.. jus avoid them...

[Spectrum]

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STREET SMART Tip of the DAY #64

 

Always ride within the limits of the road conditions.

Than there is a very high % you will not SKID.

 

However skillful u are, skidding is extremely hazardous

And the chances of regaining control are limited.

 

But if you are faced with a developing skid,

It will be advantages to know exactly what to do

To try to regain control

And how to avoid making the skid worse.

 

As Skidding is A Major contribuiter to our Bikers

getting hurt... Let us explore the subject.

 

ReMemBer! Avoidance is Better Correction!

[Spectrum]

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Antilock braking systems, Linked Braking & Traction Control System

 

Are safety devices that can help stability.

Machines fitted with these features behave differently from

Other Machines

And require different techniques to get the best use from them.

 

Antilock Braking System (ABS)

 

This system basically prevents the wheels from being locked.

Eg. when the system sense the wheel not turning(skidding)...

It will automatically release the wheel.

Then increases braking again.

 

It greatly reduces braking distances.

And Improves Direction Control

- keep vehicle in a straight line without spinning out

- direction control also give motorist ability to avoid something

 

HOW to Use the System?

 

Just Squeeze the Brakes Max & let the system work!

No need to be gentle with the brakes.

Remember! Cornering forces may disrupt the system.

 

BMW, STX Honda bikes has it as an option

 

LINKED BRAKES

 

Front & Rear Brakes are linked & work togather.

Eg. operating front brake lever or rear brake pedal

will operate both brakes at a predetermined optimum combination.

 

So Optimum braking all the time.

 

Bikes with Linked braking... Honda ST & Blackbird

 

Traction Control System

 

Controls excess wheel slip on the rear wheel under engine acceleration,

thereby improving directional control & machine stability.

The system monitors the wheel slip on the rear wheel

And reduces the power supply to the wheel when slip exceeds a

Preset Maximum.

This allows the wheel to regain grip & stability.

It allows the machine to make maximum use of tyre grip,

Especially on slippery surfaces.

 

Most of the Latest Sport bikes has this system.

Check your handbook for guidance.

[calvin]

keep up the good work !!!

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Spectrum@Sep 5 2005, 10:46 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/2100spectrum/BrakingSystemM.jpg

 

Antilock braking systems, Linked Braking & Traction Control System

 

Are safety devices that can help stability.

Machines fitted with these features behave differently from

Other Machines

And require different techniques to get the best use from them.

 

Antilock Braking System (ABS)

 

This system basically prevents the wheels from being locked.

Eg. when the system sense the wheel not turning(skidding)...

It will automatically release the wheel.

Then increases braking again.

 

It greatly reduces braking distances.

And Improves Direction Control

- keep vehicle in a straight line without spinning out

- direction control also give motorist ability to avoid something

 

HOW to Use the System?

 

Just Squeeze the Brakes Max & let the system work!

No need to be gentle with the brakes.

Remember! Cornering forces may disrupt the system.

 

BMW, STX Honda bikes has it as an option

 

LINKED BRAKES

 

Front & Rear Brakes are linked & work togather.

Eg. operating front brake lever or rear brake pedal

will operate both brakes at a predetermined optimum combination.

 

So Optimum braking all the time.

 

Bikes with Linked braking... Honda ST & Blackbird

 

Traction Control System

 

Controls excess wheel slip on the rear wheel under engine acceleration,

thereby improving directional control & machine stability.

The system monitors the wheel slip on the rear wheel

And reduces the power supply to the wheel when slip exceeds a

Preset Maximum.

This allows the wheel to regain grip & stability.

It allows the machine to make maximum use of tyre grip,

Especially on slippery surfaces.

 

Most of the Latest Sport bikes has this system.

Check your handbook for guidance.

erm 1 ques.

 

Even with ABS, once the bike is in a corner, it prevents lock up in the radial direction, but the sideways loss of traction, there is no way that the ABS will help much? Correct me if I am wrong

[Wayang]

guys..

 

i like to highlight an encounter i had dis afternoon.. my blood really boils when i think abt it..

 

i was at suntec's roundabt.. travellin at the 3rd lane.. which is the lane for turnin out AND goin straight.. lemme repead.. AND straight.. the arrows on the road clearly indicate u can continue goin and not exit.. so i was on the 3rd lane.. goin past a left exit when dis car came out of god noes whr.. most probably the 2nd lane.. and wanna make a exit.. cuttin across me.. if it was not for my lightinin quick relexes horned from the countless sessions at gudang (wahahaha.. sorrie i cldnt help it.. its all crap.. dun believe me).. i prob wld have kissed the left side door of the car.. anyway.. i was kinda in shock and went slowly passed the car.. i turn my head ard to see who the cockster driver was.. a woman.. lao auntie.. i raised my hand in disgust.. and in horror.. she raised her hand in rebuttal.. like wtf man.. the 2nd lane is clearly for goin straight ONLY.. ONLY ok.. stil wanna act like its ur right of way.. bloody hell.. shld have written down her bloody license plate no. and made a STRONG complaint..

 

my point is.. beware of cars in all situation.. no matter u r in the right of way of not.. i was clearly in the right of way but the car didnt care.. onli u can prevent dis from happenin.. CHEERS~~!

 

p.s. i was stopped by a TP today.. for god noes wat reason.. i was happily travellin within the speed limit when a TP appeared and pulled me over.. wanted to see my license and insurance.. bloody farker.. got too much time on ur hand izit ? i memorised ur name in my mind oredi.. get ready to receive a complain letter from ur boss u bloody SOB..

[Ravon11]

Originally posted by Wayang@Sep 5 2005, 07:54 PM

my point is.. beware of cars in all situation.. no matter u r in the right of way of not.. i was clearly in the right of way but the car didnt care.. onli u can prevent dis from happenin.. CHEERS~~!

 

got too much time on ur hand izit ? i memorised ur name in my mind oredi.. get ready to receive a complain letter from ur boss

u r rite.. lik wat i say, try always to treat every veh as obstacle. all veh is out there to create probms.. always be on ur toes n be alert when riding..

 

well tats wat tps do.. so jus let them waste ur time n u wil rush to keep uop ur appointment later.. n dun hav to complaint la.. no use wan..

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Wayang@Sep 5 2005, 07:54 PM

guys..

 

i like to highlight an encounter i had dis afternoon.. my blood really boils when i think abt it..

 

i was at suntec's roundabt.. travellin at the 3rd lane.. which is the lane for turnin out AND goin straight.. lemme repead.. AND straight.. the arrows on the road clearly indicate u can continue goin and not exit.. so i was on the 3rd lane.. goin past a left exit when dis car came out of god noes whr.. most probably the 2nd lane.. and wanna make a exit.. cuttin across me.. if it was not for my lightinin quick relexes horned from the countless sessions at gudang (wahahaha.. sorrie i cldnt help it.. its all crap.. dun believe me).. i prob wld have kissed the left side door of the car.. anyway.. i was kinda in shock and went slowly passed the car.. i turn my head ard to see who the cockster driver was.. a woman.. lao auntie.. i raised my hand in disgust.. and in horror.. she raised her hand in rebuttal.. like wtf man.. the 2nd lane is clearly for goin straight ONLY.. ONLY ok.. stil wanna act like its ur right of way.. bloody hell.. shld have written down her bloody license plate no. and made a STRONG complaint..

 

my point is.. beware of cars in all situation.. no matter u r in the right of way of not.. i was clearly in the right of way but the car didnt care.. onli u can prevent dis from happenin.. CHEERS~~!

 

p.s. i was stopped by a TP today.. for god noes wat reason.. i was happily travellin within the speed limit when a TP appeared and pulled me over.. wanted to see my license and insurance.. bloody farker.. got too much time on ur hand izit ? i memorised ur name in my mind oredi.. get ready to receive a complain letter from ur boss u bloody SOB..

well part and parcel of roundabout scenerios. So always ride slow and be aware both left & right. If wanna kup... make sure you are the only bike that enters the roundabout and maintain clear vision of the front. But best is dunt play lah.. subjective matter..

 

I once encounter something similar. But i was in a bad mood somemore. I stopped right in front of the car who almost hit me at the roundabout. he has no where to go. I stopped the car behind him also to get him as a witness. Kind enough the witness was a rider. He helpfully took his phone out to dial the traffic police. The driver immediately say sorry and ask me how much i want.

 

OK i know what i did was bad. But that time feel the kick. i ended up just asking him to say sorry for the finger he showed me.

 

To think back, what i did was right.. and also in a wrong manner. To harsh and cozed bad traffic at the already bad roundabout.

[burningacid]

Originally posted by Wayang@Sep 5 2005, 07:54 PM

guys..

 

i like to highlight an encounter i had dis afternoon.. blah blah blah...

ever tot of changing to stebel horn?? well, not much use in ur case, but maybe can shock the lao cha bo to death first..

 

Ravon, eh, ur PC ok liao?

[Wayang]

Originally posted by HamsterZ@Sep 5 2005, 10:42 PM

well part and parcel of roundabout scenerios. So always ride slow and be aware both left & right. If wanna kup... make sure you are the only bike that enters the roundabout and maintain clear vision of the front. But best is dunt play lah.. subjective matter..

 

I once encounter something similar. But i was in a bad mood somemore. I stopped right in front of the car who almost hit me at the roundabout. he has no where to go. I stopped the car behind him also to get him as a witness. Kind enough the witness was a rider. He helpfully took his phone out to dial the traffic police. The driver immediately say sorry and ask me how much i want.

 

OK i know what i did was bad. But that time feel the kick. i ended up just asking him to say sorry for the finger he showed me.

 

To think back, what i did was right.. and also in a wrong manner. To harsh and cozed bad traffic at the already bad roundabout.

too bad i was turnin to another exit.. if not i wld have done the same thing bro.. tat woman need to be taught a lesson.. blardy biatch.. i think its my 1st time encounterin dis in the roundabt.. damn good lesson for me.. LOLZ

[Fc2222B]

i think roundabouts are the most dangerous places, when these few factors exists:

 

1. Old driver behind the wheel - those that almost can't see through their specs..

2. Bad weather conditions.. wet and slippery and heavy rain cannot see..

3. FEMALE driver behind the wheel.. ok not all.. but i think at least 65% of females aren't good at roundabouts.. so if u see a gal driving.. 1/2 chance of danger..

4. gravel on the floor from those cement truck..

5. all the above combined...

 

i approach roundabouts.. with all my radar on.. all my ears open big.. eyes open bigger.. and standby to pull evasive action.. expect the unexpected.. and get ready to follow the flow even if its against where u wanna go...

 

we riders always have to suffer for other road users mistake.. so be extra careful!

[Mark Ng]

Originally posted by Fc2222B@Sep 6 2005, 03:49 PM

i think roundabouts are the most dangerous places, when these few factors exists:

 

1. Old driver behind the wheel - those that almost can't see through their specs..

2. Bad weather conditions.. wet and slippery and heavy rain cannot see..

3. FEMALE driver behind the wheel.. ok not all.. but i think at least 65% of females aren't good at roundabouts.. so if u see a gal driving.. 1/2 chance of danger..

4. gravel on the floor from those cement truck..

5. all the above combined...

 

i approach roundabouts.. with all my radar on.. all my ears open big.. eyes open bigger.. and standby to pull evasive action.. expect the unexpected.. and get ready to follow the flow even if its against where u wanna go...

 

we riders always have to suffer for other road users mistake.. so be extra careful!

i add 1, your leaning angle, its dangerous to do evasive action when you are leaning when there is no escape route, imagine cars in front, beside and behind... do take extra caution riders!

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by burningacid@Sep 6 2005, 09:26 AM

ever tot of changing to stebel horn?? well, not much use in ur case, but maybe can shock the lao cha bo to death first..

 

Ravon, eh, ur PC ok liao?

stebl horn upgrade. Get the magnum. Had fun on the first few days after installation. hehe horn whenever deemed can ..

 

once a driver slowly drifted into my lane. i gave a horn.. can see the driver jumped in his seat coz my bike is exactly beside his right door!

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Wayang@Sep 6 2005, 03:31 PM

too bad i was turnin to another exit.. if not i wld have done the same thing bro.. tat woman need to be taught a lesson.. blardy biatch.. i think its my 1st time encounterin dis in the roundabt.. damn good lesson for me.. LOLZ

yeah.. prob should have done that... but maybe i think think.. should not be in this manner. i seem rude (but got kick lah) and offending. maybe follow the vehicle through and stop the driver down to tell him nicely. Think like this is more gentleman:cheer:

[Spectrum]

ROUNDABOUT

 

When there are traffic changing directions...

There will always be a chance someone gonna drive into your path.

Keep to the Inside lane (eg lane1) if not turning out.

Then no one gonna run u down.

Then move to lane 2 ... 3 to filter out.

 

CONFRONTING CARELESS DRIVERS

 

I have witness a biker whom had a mouth full

for the driver that almost run him down...

If the driver to apologise...

Well, Accept it & move on...

Am sure he/she will be more careful after that.

Hope so... Ah Soh..

If he doesn't... U can always file a report

if u have a witness... let the Law take care of it...

 

LOUD HORN

 

As I have said before....

The HORN is used to get the attention of the driver...

Ahem... Not to drive into our path.

But please don't go frighten Old Ladies/Men...

[Spectrum]

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What Causes a Skid?

 

Many people when asked would say it was the result of poor road

Or weather conditions, but this is not really true.

A skid does not just happen - it is almost always the result of rider's actions.

It is often caused by altering course or speed too hasrshly for the road conditions.

 

Your should aim to ride & control a machine in such a way that it does not skid.

This becomes more difficult when road or weather conditions deteriorate,

But by using your skills of observation, anticipation and planning you cando a lot

To minimise the risk of skidding.

 

U need to understand how a skid happens,

What warning signs to look out for

And What actions to avoid.

 

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[Spectrum]

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HOW DOES A SKID HAPPEN?

 

A machine skids when one or both tyres lose normal grip onteh road,

Causing a involuntary movement of the machine.

THis happens when the grip of the tyres on the road becomes less than

The forces or forces acting on the machine.

 

THE FORCES:

When Accelerating, Braking or/and Cornering

 

When U operate the controls - the brakes, throttle, clutch or the handlebars.

If u accelerate while cornering, two forces are combined.

Only limited tyres grip available and if these forces becomes too powerful

They greak the grip of the tyres on the road.

U should never ride to the limit of the tyre grip available -

Always leave a safety margin to allow for the unforseen.

 

Skidding is usually the result of riding too fast for the conditions.

This creates the circumstances from which a skid can develop.

If a rider suddenly or forcibly accelerates, brakes, releases the clutch

Without matching engine speed to the road speed or changes direction,

This may cause loss of the Tyre grip.

 

On slippery road surface, it takes much less force to break the grip of the tyre.

 

If u have ever experience a skid,

You will probably remember that you were changing either the speed

Or direction of the machine or both - just before the skid developed.

[Spectrum]

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When Skidding Occurs...

U loses control of your Machine.

And U are @ the Mercy of the Environment when u slide!

 

Be it A Tree, A Lamp Post, The Curb, Speed Barriers or A Monsoon Drain.

Worst Scenario... It Could be a Truck!

 

Don't even get into One...

Remember! Skidding can Be Avoided!

[Spectrum]

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STREET SMART TIP OF THE DAY #66

 

A clear understanding of skidding should help

You to avoid skidding in the first place.

Observation, Anticipation and Planning are

Essential to Safe Riding & More so in reducing the

Risk of Skid.

 

OBSERVE

Weather & Road Condition

 

Skidding is more likely in bad weather condition

And on Slippery road surface

(Pretty sure u already know that)

 

There are some Obvious & Less Obvious

Hazard U need to Look For...

 

- Drizzle - Heavy Rain

- Wet Mud(slime) & Damp Leaves

- Diesel Spills with a little rain @ Bus Stops, petrol stn & Corners

- Road Paint, Metal Grills & Road Covers

- Loose Gravels @ Junctions

 

ANTICIPATE & PLAN

Adjust your riding to the road conditions

 

Adjust your speed accordingly.

 

- Leave plenty of room for manoeuvres,

reduce speed adn increase the distances your allow for stopping

to match the road conditions - slippery roads takes many more

times the normal distance to stop.

 

- Use Throttle & Low Gear to reduce speed on a slippery rd.

It is essential that any gear change is accompanied by a smooth matching

Of engine speed to the road speed

 

- Use a higher gear in slippery cond ot avoid wheel spin,

Especially when moving off or travelling at low spd.

 

- On Slippery Surfaces aim to brake, change gear & Corner

As smoothly as Possible, so that the grip of the tyres is not Broken.

[Spectrum]

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Reconising & Removing...

 

If your machine develops a full skid

You are unlikely to have the time & space to correct it.

 

Full Concentration & Observation are both required

To avoid or to take corrective action if one starts.

 

REAR WHEEL SKID

 

This is when the rear wheel loses its grip cos':

 

- excessive spd for the circumstances

- excessive banking during cornering

- harsh acceleration

- excessive braking

- not matching enging spd to road spd when realeasing the clutch

 

A rear wheel skid can cause the rear wheel to

Slide to either side.

During Cornering, the wheel will swing to the outside of the curve.

The machine may turn broadside and go completely out of control.

It may fall to the inside of the curve if the machine is banked.

 

Remove the cause by easing of the throttle or reducing the banking

Effort & bring the machine upright.

Steer in the direction of the skid.

When stability is restored, apply the throttle or brake

But with great sensitivity than before.

 

Of the 2 skid, a rear wheel skid is more controllable.

 

FRONT WHEEL SKID

 

This occurs when the front wheel loses its grip cos of:

 

- excessive spd for the circumstances

- excessive turn on the handlebars

- excessive banking during cornering

- excessive braking

 

If you have the time & space,

Remove the cause of a front wheel skid.

There is very little time to recognise, react to & correct a

Front Wheel Skid.

So make every effort to avoid one.

 

If the machine is banked & the front wheel suddenly

Regains its grip, the machine will be unbalanced.

On the wrong course and in danger of falling to the outside of the curve.

Restore control by returning the machine to the upright position

And reducing speed.

[Spectrum]

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Most Skids are the result of how a machine is ridden,

But Keeping your machine & tires in good condition help

To Minimise the risk of skidding.

 

TYRES

 

Correct inflation & adequate tread depth.

- Go to the air pumps at least once a week

- Change your tires when the treads are disappearing

- Shallow treads means more water between your tires & the road

- Old hard tires means little grip

eg like a hard eraser that doesn't rub well.

 

BRAKES

 

Defective brakes & faulty suspension are

Especially dangerous on slippery surfaces

And may help to cause or aggravate a skid

 

Summary

 

This conclude this mini series on Skidding.

 

Skidding is a Major Contribuiting Factor to Bikes Accidents...

And it can happen to bikers at all levels of Experience.

 

Note!

A skid on the Expressways can be fatal.

That's is because of the other vehicles

Around moving at high spd.

 

Be especially cautious when Filtering between lanes in

Moving heavy traffic.

Wet conditions... means added risks.

 

Enjoy your rides....

Do be careful.

[burningacid]

Originally posted by Spectrum@Sep 12 2005, 02:00 PM

Remove the cause by easing of the throttle or reducing the banking

Effort & bring the machine upright.

Steer in the direction of the skid.

When stability is restored, apply the throttle or brake

But with great sensitivity than before.

Hi Spectrum, read from somewhere we can actually turn the throttle more to bring the bike upright as well?

[Spectrum]

Originally posted by burningacid@Sep 13 2005, 04:47 PM

Hi Spectrum, read from somewhere we can actually turn the throttle more to bring the bike upright as well?

Yes..

but that's when doing a low speed turn (U turn or figure 8).

Throttle up the pwr will bring the bike up...

...that's if the bike is dropping too low.... falling to the grd.

 

This manoeuver is to keep a turn tight.

(when done well... on a Big Bike can be quite a sight)

 

Not sure is there's other manoeuvers...

Anyone else have any experience in this area...