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[xxes123]

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for those looking for more BACK protection , just bought this today..

the bag is detechable , and the back amour is good for track under the suit .. its a great 2 in 1 product ..

 

plus the Dainese prices by JR is very reasonable compared to overseas..

[Spectrum]

Thks XXes... That's a neat design...

will drop by to check it out...

 

A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL

 

[Spectrum]

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STREET SMART TIP OF THE NITE #158

 

It is a Time of Christmast Cheer & Year end Party as we close 2006

and welcome 2007.

 

Perhaps it timely for a reminder that the Most dangerous time to ride/drive

would be midnight to 3am.

 

That's when the parties ends, drinking joints close and time for the drinkers to make their way home.

 

Be on the alert and keep clear of cars that behave strangly.

Don't expect the vehicles to obey the signals too well at junctions.

They may just not see the colour right.

 

And Most of All...

 

If u drink.. Don't ride.

 

(Leave your bike & take a taxi home...

U be around to collect your bike the next day)

[phatmonsta]

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for those looking for more BACK protection , just bought this today.. icon-touguecheeky.gif

the bag is detechable , and the back amour is good for track under the suit .. its a great 2 in 1 product ..

 

plus the Dainese prices by JR is very reasonable compared to overseas.. icon-smile.gif

 

How much is the bag? looks nice

[xxes123]

got mine @$200

 

overall very happy with the price and product except for some minor stitching imperfections at 1 of the straps

[Spectrum]

$200 Sounds like Dianese Pricing... Thks for The Quote "xxes"

[Technician III]

Hi, juz to enquire.. Can I get a pair of riding boots for $150 or lesser? I broke my ankle in an accident few mths ago.. Like to buy a pair of riding boots to protect my ankle..

 

I regret not reading this thread earlier.. The information in this thread may hav helped mi in preventing the accident.. I learnt my lesson the hard way..

[Unagi]

Yes you can Technician, I saw some nice designs at HKL the other day. for around $130. I'm planning to get one soon too.

[Guest czh2002sg]

Originally posted by Technician III@Dec 28 2006, 05:20 PM

Hi, juz to enquire.. Can I get a pair of riding boots for $150 or lesser? I broke my ankle in an accident few mths ago.. Like to buy a pair of riding boots to protect my ankle..

 

I regret not reading this thread earlier.. The information in this thread may hav helped mi in preventing the accident.. I learnt my lesson the hard way..

most riding boots do not have paddings at the ankles to protect the ankles. Its mostly to protect against lacerations and abrasions from rubbing against the road surface in a fall. If you are really looking for impact protection from falls, buying ankle guards (those used for soccer) may actually provide more shock absorbtion in a fall. They can be easily slipped on over your socks. Although not designed for use in motorcycling, the idea is the same, padding=shock absorbtion. The only issue may be holding them in place in a fall, which makes wearing them under your socks more effective. Alternatively, wear them inside riding boots for more enhanced ankle protection

 

Anyone try before?

[SaintDuDu]

Originally posted by czh2002sg@Dec 28 2006, 08:52 PM

most riding boots do not have paddings at the ankles to protect the ankles. Its mostly to protect against lacerations and abrasions from rubbing against the road surface in a fall. If you are really looking for impact protection from falls, buying ankle guards (those used for soccer) may actually provide more shock absorbtion in a fall. They can be easily slipped on over your socks. Although not designed for use in motorcycling, the idea is the same, padding=shock absorbtion. The only issue may be holding them in place in a fall, which makes wearing them under your socks more effective. Alternatively, wear them inside riding boots for more enhanced ankle protection

 

Anyone try before?

hmmm... actually riding boots provide protection on ankle.

example..

T.C.S system from oxtar...

 

i'm using this for my trips..

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/acatalog/SIDI_B...ycle_Boots.html

 

not top of the range but its sufficient for my usage..

[Guest czh2002sg]

Originally posted by SaintDuDu@Dec 28 2006, 09:58 PM

hmmm... actually riding boots provide protection on ankle.

example..

T.C.S system from oxtar...

 

i'm using this for my trips..

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/acatalog/SIDI_B...ycle_Boots.html

 

not top of the range but its sufficient for my usage..

wa.. this one i never see before. BEst

 

Just got my RJay's jacket. Its really more cool than windbreaker due to better ventilation from the front. Windbreakers deflect windblast but allows less air thru. As i was testing out the jacket at night, i found that the back protecter, the thin broad sheet of rubber at the back serves to retain body heat too. Certainly keeps your back more warm as compared to windbreaker. Hmm... But for day riding....

 

Heh... NSR rider wear riding jacket and gloves a bit overdone not ah? A bit pai say on the road sometimes. Look likte Robocop.

[SaintDuDu]

Originally posted by czh2002sg@Dec 29 2006, 11:45 AM

wa.. this one i never see before. BEst

 

Just got my RJay's jacket. Its really more cool than windbreaker due to better ventilation from the front. Windbreakers deflect windblast but allows less air thru. As i was testing out the jacket at night, i found that the back protecter, the thin broad sheet of rubber at the back serves to retain body heat too. Certainly keeps your back more warm as compared to windbreaker. Hmm... But for day riding....

 

Heh... NSR rider wear riding jacket and gloves a bit overdone not ah? A bit pai say on the road sometimes. Look likte Robocop.

y bother abt wat others see abt u... its ur safety which u r concern with..

when sh*t happens.. u will ask urself.. "y din't i wear my gears?" "buy liao put at home for show?"

 

safety gears reduce the injuries... when sh*t happens..

[Unagi]

Originally posted by czh2002sg@Dec 29 2006, 11:45 AM

Heh... NSR rider wear riding jacket and gloves a bit overdone not ah? A bit pai say on the road sometimes. Look likte Robocop.

Heheh... Tell you something hor... Me riding RX-K okay, and I wear flip-up full face, riding jacket and riding gloves also lei. Overdone? No way!

 

Last month when I decided to buy my gloves and riding jacket, I asked my brother, also NSR rider, if he wanted to go buy together but he declined. Told me if wear riding jacket outside shopping will look like very 'act seh kind of ppl'. 2 days ago he self-skidded. Luckily not fast... but he suffered abrasions on the arms and here pain there pain. Things would be so different if he had the riding jacket.

 

I've heard of people riding phantom and even vespa with full protection, so you see there's no need to be shy...

[Spectrum]

Thks for sharing TriDragger..

 

Make Wearing Protection Routine.

Get a lite wt mesh jacket & Gloves.

 

As for Boots:

 

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/acatalog/202210_L.jpg

These are track boots.

 

Try these for everyday riding...

 

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/acatalog/202380_L.jpg

 

Just go the bike accessory shops... they should be avail.

Chong Aik, Regina...

 

Some Harley Davidson Boots were for sale but it's over.

But they have some nice ones.

 

The Army boots will also do fine...

It's just protecion.

[Technician III]

Hi, juz wanna enquire.. I had an accident in oct when I tried to swerve to avoid a vehicle in front which had stopped suddenly due to heavy traffic in front.. In the end, I dunno which part of my bike made contact wif the taxi.. I juz fell off my bike and I realised my ankle is broken..

 

Then recently, one of my frds told me that if i had held on to the handle bar and crashed straight into the vehicle's bumper, I wouldn't had fall off.. Onli the bumper and my bike's front wheel be damaged.. And in this situation, I onli had to send the bike for repair and my ankle wld not be broken..

 

Assuming tat my bike's speed at tat point of impact is bout 30km/hr.. Is there any chance tat wat my frd had said is true? I was carrying a pillion and the rd was dry at tat time.. Pls help me to analyse this situation coz being a new rider, I can't realli figure out the answer.. Thanks guys..

[endlessloop]

Originally posted by Technician III@Dec 30 2006, 04:19 PM

Hi, juz wanna enquire.. I had an accident in oct when I tried to swerve to avoid a vehicle in front which had stopped suddenly due to heavy traffic in front.. In the end, I dunno which part of my bike made contact wif the taxi.. I juz fell off my bike and I realised my ankle is broken..

 

Then recently, one of my frds told me that if i had held on to the handle bar and crashed straight into the vehicle's bumper, I wouldn't had fall off.. Onli the bumper and my bike's front wheel be damaged.. And in this situation, I onli had to send the bike for repair and my ankle wld not be broken..

 

Assuming tat my bike's speed at tat point of impact is bout 30km/hr.. Is there any chance tat wat my frd had said is true? I was carrying a pillion and the rd was dry at tat time.. Pls help me to analyse this situation coz being a new rider, I can't realli figure out the answer.. Thanks guys..

 

Interesting scenario.

 

Some people might wonder "How should I be falling if I found myself crashing onto the floor?"

 

It is my personal opinion that it is a bit akin to asking How should I be brashing myself if the airplane that I am flying were to be falling out of the sky?

Yes, we should be taking up the crash-landing position. But a better solution is to avoid the situation in the first place by making sure the airplane is very well maintained and the pilots are very well trained and experienced.

 

So my way of addressing this scenario mentioned is, instead of thinking of in what manner I should best crash, I would think of how to avoid the predictament in the first place.

 

I believe the proper application of Hazard Oriented Vision (HOV) would buy earlier reaction. Apply HOV while you ride and you would see far far ahead, constantly scanning covering adjacent lanes alert for hazards, and one would see clues of a vehicle going to stop.

[hit.man]

Totally agree with endlessloop.... Think of how to predict, foresee and avoid hazards in the first place. Don't go and think about which part of the taxi/lorry/truck to bang, to minimise injury. First and foremost, the meaning of "Accident" means that you did not plan for it to happen... which also mean that chances of you being able to choose which part of the taxi to bang during an accident is very low...

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Wishing All A Happy New Year 2007!

 

 

To all a Safe & Enjoyable Year 2007!

[Technician III]

Yup.. I agree wif u guys.. if i'm able to predict or detect the danger, this wouldn't hav happened.. Tat's y in my 1st post, i said i regret not reading this thread earlier.. If i had read this thread, it wld raise my awareness of the dangers on the rds..

 

Thanks to spectrum, endlessloop and other bros who hav contributed much to this thread.. U guys hav taught me things tat i've nv seen b4, and things I've nv read b4.. Frankly speaking, I've nv seen anything like this b4, offering countless advice and safety measures to riders on the rd..

 

I wld read the tips of the day all over again when i'm bout to ride again.. I wld try to apply wat i've read in this thread.. I'm sure it will benefit me alot.. But meanwhile, I juz wan to get my ankle healed.. Happy new yr to everyone.. May ur wishes come true..

[Spectrum]

Tech III: Thks for your contribuition...

2007 will be a good year for all of Us...

Here In Street Smart...

All your Contribuition & Support had helped...

Helped to Reduced the Risk we face everytime we start our engines.

The Ultimate Aim of the Thread is for each to achieve an attitude

That will help us survive the roads.

And to pass the message.

We are all vulnerable, we have a responsibily to ourself & our love ones.

A moment of lapse is all it needs lose control.

 

We enjoy our rides & come home safe!

 

Thank You for being Here.

 

Happy New Year 2007!

[endlessloop]

Originally posted by Technician III@Dec 31 2006, 12:31 PM

Yup.. I agree wif u guys.. if i'm able to predict or detect the danger, this wouldn't hav happened..

Hi Technician III,

 

I don't mean that your question is not good.

If you really want to know what to do if you are caught in a sudden dire circumstances such as needing to stop quickly, what would you do?

 

I would respond using my own self as in what would I do?

Even though I keep preaching about HOV, I am still human and there are still situations (though rarely) when I wasn't able to detect early enough.

 

A couple of weeks ago, I was riding behind a car during peak evening hour traffic along PIE Kallang area. I have already left extra space in anticipation of sudden stops during traffic jam.

 

Still, I must have lost concentration for a moment and suay suay the car in front jam brake.

 

I start to apply my brakes. As my bike starts to slow down, my mind realised that my bike is not slowing down fast enough and given the distance left to stop, I probably might not stop in time. What should I do? All these happened all within split seconds.

 

I thought of swerving but the car in front is only like 5 metres ahead and even if I counter-steer hard, part of my bike would still clip the rear corner of the car at best.

 

I decided to forget about swerving and focus on heading straight and focus on applying proper hard e-braking. Even if I hit the car, I would have shed off sufficient speed and the damage to me should be lesser than if I try to swerve which would lead to a lateral collision.

 

I tightened my fist and squeezed the front brake harder and harder as I know that our front brakes are much more capable than we normally able to use. Finally, my 250kg bike came to a stop with still one meter clearance from the rear of the car. And I didn't even use my rear brake yet.

 

Even though it was a close call, I was rather proud of my well executed braking.

 

The morale of the story is, from my opinion, during emergency, the best course of action could be to focus on executing effective braking.

[Technician III]

Yup.. I totally agree wif u.. If I had focus on hard braking instead, things may not hav gone so bad.. And frankly speaking, I haven't practised e-braking on my phantom from the 1st day i started riding.. Aft reading some of the tips given in street smart, I will practiced more of my e braking when i got my bike back.. This will be my onli "advantage" if i encounter hard barking by the vehicle in front.. Coz this almost happens everyday..

 

Maybe if i had practised e braking, i may hav escaped.. tat's y i said if i had read this thread earlier, things may turn out different.. this thread is like an obsession.. The moment u started reading, the more u wan to uncover the secrets(tips) in this thread.. The secrets of this thread starts straight from page 1 until this point..

 

So to riders new to this forum, pls take ur time and read thru this thread.. The knowledge u gained will onli be beneficial to u..

 

Endlessloop: Hi Technician III,

 

I don't mean that your question is not good.

 

Dun worry man.. I'm not offended by ur previous post.. I juz felt tat ur saying is correct.. U r my role model in motorcycle safety man..

 

[Finity]

Wish Everyone Happy New Year 2007. And tks for the safety tips thru out

[Guest czh2002sg]

What a NSH newbie must know before your first trip. Please correct me where I'm wrong and do add on where necessary

 

Travelling on the North South Highway in Malaysia in no joke for 2B riders. There's always a first time for everything, and you're always most vulnerable on your first trip, partly because you're not used to, or most probabaly have not travelled at high speeds (ah hem.. by our humble class 2B standards), and also because of the unfamiliarity with touring in convoys and travelling on an international highway where people can zoom past you at speeds upwards of 150km/h (if you lucky), or even more.

 

Your first trip on a long journey requires mecahnical, physical and mental preparations. It can be punishing to ride for long hours in the rain, or in the sun with strong winds pushing you back like you never experienced before. But survive it, and you're more ready for class 2A on actual road riding because you've ventured beyond your comfort zone, and you've used the top end range of your bike, easing the transition into using the lower end range of a more powerful 2A bike.

 

Mecahnical preparations include bringing your bike to your trusted mech shop for servicing, checking for problems, tightening your chain etc. Lubricating you chain is a must for all bikes, and especially 2B bikes, because of the high heat and strain you're placing on your little machine (I was riding an NSR btw). Before you max out the throttle on the NSH, adding about two or three capfuls of 2T into fuel tank and give it a good shake if you're riding a 2 stroke bike is reccomended. If you've always been using the mid range 2T to save money, this trip could be time for ESSO 2T GOLD. Its thicker and meant for high end revving of our engines. If your travelling without box, side box etc, using a cargo net to secure your barang barang over the rear seat rather than placing it over the fuel tank without proper straps is generally reccomended, unless you get those touring bags with magnets secured over the tank and straps to the steering.

 

Physical preparations include preparing for a long haul trip. For a new rider on the NSH, it may be better to follow a convoy of experienced riders who are familiar with roads. Riding in a convoy has the added security of riders leading the front clearing the way for you and increasing the range of the clear road ahead and sweepers at the back to pick you up should you "break contact", horlan or touch wood, should anything happen to you. (this is provided you chose the right safety conscious group to tour with hor, dun suka suka anyhow join one group without checking their touring history and habits, you MAY be stranded, helpless or broken). If you could go for a one hour ride to experience long hours of riding it may help too, (ECP>AYE>PIE>KJE>BKE>SLE>TPE>ECP), but it is nothing like the NSH. Singapore roads and Malaysia roads are different, with different driving/riding cultures. I would say a proper riding jacket, touring pants or at least knee guards and FF helmet with riding boots is necessary, but to each his own choice. The bottom line is "the more protection you have, the less likely you suffer should the protection serve its purpose".

 

Mental preparations include your awareness on NSH, your riding habits, and your safety on the NSH. The cruising speed for most vehicles is above 100km/h for most vehicles, which on a NSR speedometer is about 110-120km/h, so if you, like me, have been keeping to the 80 to 120km/h speed on our speedo's (on most days lah, most days), you in fact have only been grazing the 100km/h mark for short bursts on most days. On the NSH, convoys of bikes cuise easily between 120-140km/h on our speedo (which is the top end of ours btw for most 2B bikes) and which in reality is only about 120km/h on their speedo's (the real speed). If you haven't been travelling on your speedo at 130 to 140km/h average speed, and you feel that you can't take it, you can't handle the tense neck and stiff shoulders, dun feel shy to drop out of the convoy to the back to your safety zone. Slow down, calm yourself down, and continue when you're ready. Speed needs control. If you're not ready to control it, to try to control it, dun force yourself too hard, maybe touring is not your cup of tea, maybe you're safer back in Singapore expressways. IT IS OK. Things happen when you try too hard to catch up with a convoy you're not ready to ride with. If the patience the convoy extends to you to make your transition to NSH riding is not enough, then thats not the khakis you're meant to be with. Riding in a convoy should be safe, fun and gather bikers' strength in numbers. As a part of a convoy, you must know when to resist other vehicles cutting into the convoy by signalling your intentions clearly (travelling side be side with him if he's on your right), so that they understand you want to keep the convoy together, and will accelerate ahead to overtake the lead bike. Most vehicles on the NSH will understand, and won't attempt to cut a convoy up, if the convoy is well formed. Most lah.

 

You will easily make some 50 to 100 overtaking manoveres from Singapore to Melacca (ah ga ah ga), depending on traffic conditions, weather, etc, or if there are more buses and lorries than usual. Your highest risk comes at overtaking. As a 2B biker, do drop a gear at least before changing lane to the right. Once you're in the right lane, WHACK!! You must quickly match the speed of the faster moving vehicle in front in order not to be a hazard to the vehicle approaching from behind. A car could easily be going at 150-200km/h or more, and if you don't accelerate quickly from the cruising speed of 140 on yours, which in reality is 120, KERBUMMMM... Good luck. Kup Kias dun travel on the right lane on most stretches, so dun be next champion. When checking your blind spot, please turn your head and really check. Some people go so fast you really dun notice them appear and dissapear on your mirror. I had one champion SUV zoom past me on my left as i was readying myself to re-enter the left lane after overtaking. Turn my head left, ZOOOMMM, faster turn back look in front and save my head (it was instinctive). As a 2B NSR rider, my mirrors was vibrating so hard i couldn't see the right lane clearly before overtaking at times, and resorting to turning me head fully to check rear vehicles. Judgement of fast moving vehicles may be less accurate for us slow bikers, so its best to give a larger margin for error. If you have a good mentor behind you (the sweeper) he can point out your mistakes in judgement and habits. I had a fast car took hard braking defensive measure to avoid hitting me when i lane change to overtake and i didn't know it, and one car who came up so fast to tailgate i have't realized it till my sweeper hone at me to change back to the left. Thats the advantage of riding in convoy. Got people save you. Beware of the Kup Kia on the left e-lane. Yes, bikes ride on the left emergency lane and you can use it to overtake if traffic is heavy on the right. In Singapore try not to hor. Also beware of the one hand on the throttle only Kup Kia without mirrors. Riding in the rain on NSH is more dangerous than in Singapore, partly because those potholes (on the left lane mostly) is even more difficult to spot. Spot one too late and you not be braced to ride over it.

 

Many of the lessons on NSH can be used in Singapore riding. You will also be more confident and proficient in overtaking in Singapore, because there are less very fast moving vehicles on the right. Less only, not dun have. The skills to survive NSH can be used to survive Singapore expressways, but there are other things to look out for here (just read the previous 38 pages loh), and speed cams. Come back already please remember you are in Singapore, cars are less prepared for your high speed overtaking, there may be more kwai lan drivers, and the road culture here is different.

 

As a 2B rider, know your place on the highway, and know your limits. Understand your vehicle's limits and your own shortcomings. I hope this will help make your first ride on NSH safer, or in every day Singapore riding.

 

Thanks to SV650 for your guidance and to the convoy team (you know who you are ) for making the trip safe and fun.

 

May you have a good year riding ahead, and your new year resolutions come true

 

[Technician III]

Hmm.. Got a qn to ask.. If u r going to merge into a major rd, and tat major rd has lots of traffic, is there any additional steps u can do to ensure tat u can filter into the major rd safely, besides from wat we've learnt in our riding course..

 

Tat major rd always got lots of vehicles and they r travelling at a higher speed coz the rd is all the way straight b4 reaching the filter lane..

 

The situation is like this.. Although sometimes we r waiting for the traffic to clear from the major rd, there will be some vehicles slowly inching their way out.. I always take the left lane and the cars will take the right lane.. The cars will inch out, blocking my view of the major rd.. And i dun feel safe to inch and move out together wif them coz they turning into centre lane of the major rd, while I'm turning into the left most lane.. What if there's a vehicle coming from the major rd going into my lane? The car go into centre nvm.. But i blocking the vehicle from the oncoming traffic.. Dangerous leh..

 

But once i got horn coz I nv move while the cars on my right has alreadi filtered into the major rd while I'm still wondering izzit safe to move.. I had to wait till the vehicle behind me give me signal to move.. veri pai seh leh..

 

In short,

 

1) I'm on a filter lane merging into a major rd. The filter lane has 2 lanes while the major rd has 3 lanes..

 

2) Traffic on the major rd quite heavy, esp during peak hrs.. Vehicles on the filter lane will take every opportunity to merge into the major lane to save time for waiting for the traffic light..

 

3) I always take the left lane inside the filter lane(slip rd) coz i riding phantom TA200.. Pickup quite slow so I leave the right lane to other vehicles who r faster..

 

4) However, when the traffic light is in the major rd's favour, the traffic will keep coming.. Either u wait for a gap from the major rd to appear or wait for traffic light to stop the traffic in the major rd..

 

5) Here's the problem.. In the filter lane (slip rd), there will be 2 lanes of vehicles queueing up to merge into the major rd.. I'll be in the left lane, with vehicles on my right merging together with me..

 

6) The vehicles on the right will tend to slowly inch out, sometimes blocking my view.. I dun wan to risk turning together with the vehicle on my right. The vehicle is turning into the centre lane, while I'm turning into the left lane..

 

7) Reason being, if there's a vehicle coming from the major rd into the left lane, if i cannot c the vehicle, means oso the vehicle cannot c me.. The vehicle on my right turns into centre lane, it's ok.. but i'll be in trouble coz I may be blocking the vehicle coming from the major rd.. Btw, I nv squeeze beside vehicle coz i scare.. I take 1 lane by myself, with the cars behind me..

 

Wat shld i do?

 

a) Inch out more than the vehicle beside me in the filter lane so as to get a better view?

 

b) Any suggestions?

 

Pls help.. Thanks..