[Group] YAMAHA RXZ

[toofaz]

wahahaha ingat mana tak ingat plak...i now completed my ns oredi uh geng..werking wid smrt now so quite inactive in here nowadays...bz juggling time for my werk,my z,family n gerlfren uh...boring sak werk 8.15-5.45pm course...all the way lecture je...lecture finish 4pm oso cannot got back coz nid to scan the pass at 5.45 excatly sia...****up SMRT pay oso like ns officer sia...i bring home 1k only sia...

 

tats gd la...dun tink bout the pay so much though its little unless u r going to hav ''commitments''...haha...importantly its tat u happy wif the job n more importantly rezki yg halal...

[supervivid]

Basic RXZ Info

Petrol Tank Capacity- 13 litres

Dry Weight- 106KG

Battery- 12V 35W/30W

 

NGK B8ES/BR8ES/BR9ES

2T engine oil, buy what u can afford, as long bike got 2T can already.

 

Tire Pressure- Front 185kPa Rear 215kPa (For 18" spoke Rims)

Front 200kpa Rear 225kpa (For 17" alloy sport Rims)

Tires:

TT900GP gd for distance, BT39 gd for cornering, TT900 not so lasting as TT900GP.

 

Pilot sporty front 90/80, rear 100/80, dry weather very gd, wet weather when lane splitting abit unstable.

Wears off super fast; I use one month need to change

 

Tires Size u choose yourself

 

Hi,

 

What's the price difference between TT900 and TT900GP?

Is there 80/80 and 90/80 for 17" Sport Rims?

 

Thanks!

[supervivid]

Hi,

 

Anybody got idea for good tyres on an 18" Sport Rims?

 

I can only seem to find Metzeler. Any others to recommend?

 

Thanks!

[MaverickRD]

Hi,

 

What's the price difference between TT900 and TT900GP?

Is there 80/80 and 90/80 for 17" Sport Rims?

 

Thanks!

 

Correct me if i'm wrong...

Last time i check the price for Dunlop (Made in Japan) is $75/tyre...

By a shop called "Cycle World" behind ITE Tampines, also known as behind SAFRA Tamp...

 

And i can confirm wif you that 90/80 tyre for 17" Sports rims does exist...

As I'm using Battlex 90/80 & 80/90 on my 17" racing boy....

...Set up to attack corner like motogp rider but corner like Titanic...

:faint:

 

Not too sure about the 80/80, maybe the others are using it...

 

Ride Safe Guys....

:thumb:

[supervivid]

Correct me if i'm wrong...

Last time i check the price for Dunlop (Made in Japan) is $75/tyre...

By a shop called "Cycle World" behind ITE Tampines, also known as behind SAFRA Tamp...

 

And i can confirm wif you that 90/80 tyre for 17" Sports rims does exist...

As I'm using Battlex 90/80 & 80/90 on my 17" racing boy....

...Set up to attack corner like motogp rider but corner like Titanic...

:faint:

 

Not too sure about the 80/80, maybe the others are using it...

 

Ride Safe Guys....

:thumb:

 

OK.

 

I know 90/80 does exist. But what I mean is, does it exist for TT900GP?

Currently I'm using Dunlop TT900, F80/80, R90/80. Can corner like motogp rider, but always get my main stand scratch the road, also like Titanic. Troublesome!

 

Thanks!

[Thanh-BKK]

Hi.

 

@SparkerS1

Yes i compared Ppetrol in Thailand. Sure the petrol is different from country to country...... just my local experience.

 

How i know the engine gets hotter? Physics. 95 releases a lot more energy (kilo-joule) when burning, hence higher temperature - hence hotter engine. Check Google if don't believe me (i don't force anyone to believe me, i just try to do good).

 

About 2T mine does NOT jam, neither did any before the Z, and i "whack" them a lot. Why? Good 2T, high pre-mix ratio (1:25) on pre-mix and high oil ratio on autolube - good 2T doesn't smoke as much and can set it higher. Those engines are MADE to "be whacked" as they are high-performance engines - but it is also recommended that for long-distance rides, or riding with high load (pillon, luggage, up the mountains) the 2T has to be set higher.

 

@hotbladerz

Mine does that too, sometimes. It is when you shift up and the gear is not really "in", when you open the throttle the acceleration causes the gear to "jump back". I.e. when you shift from 2nd to 3rd and rev up, it goes back to 2nd by itself. Happens when you shift fast and light

 

And about the piston jam - sadly not a lot of symptoms before, but depending what causes it. If you are low on 2T (oil pump set too low) you may get a "warning" by losing some power - when the bike becomes hard to rev up or "does not really want to pull" but still runs. In such case touch the block, it will feel excessively hot. There can be scratches in block and piston, but the piston rings are still ok and the engine still runs (can keep driving, but set 2T higher or use pre-mix).

 

If the jam is caused by bearing failure (usually lower con rod bearing) it comes very suddenly - the bearing can fail without causeing jam, then you are lucky. The bearing cahge breaks at some stage due to lack of lubrication or overheating/overstress, and the parts, along with the needles, fall out and fly around in the crank case. They will come thru the side ports and, if you are VERY lucky, go thru the exhaust port and make no damage. All you will know is that your engine suddenly has a strange, loud and hard, knocking sound.

 

But in about 95% of such case, on the way thru the side ports, bearing parts/needles will end up jammed between block and piston - hence the name "piston jam". Again two possibilities - you are lucky and the piston "gives way" by destroying itself, in such case you will rather rapidly slow down and the engine will die, but no wheel-locking. In the second possibility the piston is solid and it will stop abruptly - thei leads to an "all stop" including the rear wheel, if you have no fingers on the clutch and can clutch out immediately you can crash badly, specially if it happens when cornering. This second scenario is worst because it can also cause further damage - the flywheel can, literally, fly away, damaging crank shaft, ignition/generator and engine case. Also the con rod can break and damage the engine case (and i've seen an 80cc engine where the con rod poked a hole thru the crank case when it broke!)

 

So always ride carefully, have one ear for the engine (strange sounds that suddenly appear almost always mean bad things) and two fingers always on the clutch lever, be prepared to clutch out at any moment any time. Use good 2T and have it turned up a little - that way your engines will thank you with long life.

 

Oh, again @SparksterS1

17 years vs. 30 years - i have no problem respecting people that rider longaer than me, after all most of what i know i learned from such people. However if it comes to RXZ, i may be the newbie here and only own my Z for two years but i did make close to 27.000 kilometers on it already, it has done 69.000 alltogether at least and in my immediate neighbourhood is one with over 100.000 kilometers already. I know the Z engine and how to run it well....... it's a two stroke after all

 

I think my blood is pre-mix 1:25..... have to ask my doctor next time

 

With kind regards.....

 

Thanh

[supervivid]

Hi.

 

@SparkerS1

Yes i compared Ppetrol in Thailand. Sure the petrol is different from country to country...... just my local experience.

 

How i know the engine gets hotter? Physics. 95 releases a lot more energy (kilo-joule) when burning, hence higher temperature - hence hotter engine. Check Google if don't believe me (i don't force anyone to believe me, i just try to do good).

 

About 2T mine does NOT jam, neither did any before the Z, and i "whack" them a lot. Why? Good 2T, high pre-mix ratio (1:25) on pre-mix and high oil ratio on autolube - good 2T doesn't smoke as much and can set it higher. Those engines are MADE to "be whacked" as they are high-performance engines - but it is also recommended that for long-distance rides, or riding with high load (pillon, luggage, up the mountains) the 2T has to be set higher.

 

@hotbladerz

Mine does that too, sometimes. It is when you shift up and the gear is not really "in", when you open the throttle the acceleration causes the gear to "jump back". I.e. when you shift from 2nd to 3rd and rev up, it goes back to 2nd by itself. Happens when you shift fast and light

 

And about the piston jam - sadly not a lot of symptoms before, but depending what causes it. If you are low on 2T (oil pump set too low) you may get a "warning" by losing some power - when the bike becomes hard to rev up or "does not really want to pull" but still runs. In such case touch the block, it will feel excessively hot. There can be scratches in block and piston, but the piston rings are still ok and the engine still runs (can keep driving, but set 2T higher or use pre-mix).

 

If the jam is caused by bearing failure (usually lower con rod bearing) it comes very suddenly - the bearing can fail without causeing jam, then you are lucky. The bearing cahge breaks at some stage due to lack of lubrication or overheating/overstress, and the parts, along with the needles, fall out and fly around in the crank case. They will come thru the side ports and, if you are VERY lucky, go thru the exhaust port and make no damage. All you will know is that your engine suddenly has a strange, loud and hard, knocking sound.

 

But in about 95% of such case, on the way thru the side ports, bearing parts/needles will end up jammed between block and piston - hence the name "piston jam". Again two possibilities - you are lucky and the piston "gives way" by destroying itself, in such case you will rather rapidly slow down and the engine will die, but no wheel-locking. In the second possibility the piston is solid and it will stop abruptly - thei leads to an "all stop" including the rear wheel, if you have no fingers on the clutch and can clutch out immediately you can crash badly, specially if it happens when cornering. This second scenario is worst because it can also cause further damage - the flywheel can, literally, fly away, damaging crank shaft, ignition/generator and engine case. Also the con rod can break and damage the engine case (and i've seen an 80cc engine where the con rod poked a hole thru the crank case when it broke!)

 

So always ride carefully, have one ear for the engine (strange sounds that suddenly appear almost always mean bad things) and two fingers always on the clutch lever, be prepared to clutch out at any moment any time. Use good 2T and have it turned up a little - that way your engines will thank you with long life.

 

Oh, again @SparksterS1

17 years vs. 30 years - i have no problem respecting people that rider longaer than me, after all most of what i know i learned from such people. However if it comes to RXZ, i may be the newbie here and only own my Z for two years but i did make close to 27.000 kilometers on it already, it has done 69.000 alltogether at least and in my immediate neighbourhood is one with over 100.000 kilometers already. I know the Z engine and how to run it well....... it's a two stroke after all

 

I think my blood is pre-mix 1:25..... have to ask my doctor next time

 

With kind regards.....

 

Thanh

 

Hey Thanh,

 

I wish you were staying near Singapore. I would love to see your bike, The Bulldozer!

 

Anyway, how do you fix up the LEDs to your bike? There's too much wires, I don't know how to identify which is the positive or negative. Does the current works like a normal battery or is it AC and have to be filtered with a diode?

 

Thanks!

[A-AN 07]

Hi

 

@boi_rxz

Check your spark plug first. If mine is hard to start then i need a new spark plug usually. Can also be spark plug cap (correct word?) the one that is on the spark plug.

 

@all

About that petrol discussion - 91, 95, 98 refers to "octane number" only. They are all same "thin". The higher the octane, the higher temperature is needed to burn it and the more energy it releases when burning. Higher octane petrol is used for higher compression engines, but 4-stroke only - 2-stroke never got compression so high.

 

RXZ runs comfortably and economically on 91 petrol. I've tested it - mine uses a bit more fuel when i run on 95, and has same power. If you want to take advantage of 95, have to set the ignition timing earlier - RXZ got CDI, not sure if the ignition timing can be changed. Also when running on 95, the engine gets hotter. Even worse with 98 (in Thailand no 98). I ride mine on 91 always, and also find differences in mileage when comparing brands - "Caltex Techron Silver" is the best, "Shell" is the worst. Petronas and Esso are good, too.

 

About 2T - always recommended to use fully synthetic as it burns cleaner (less smoke) and less carbon in the pipe. Cheap 2T can if no other is available, but think about it - the Z engine is a high performance one - it should get high performance oil, too. 2T is responsible to lubricate crank shaft, side bearings, con rod lower bearing, con rod upper bearing (piston bolt) and piston itself. Cheap 2T may lose it's ability at high rpm's and you know the result - piston jam, rebore, new piston = $$. Cheap, mineralic 2T is for low-performance engines (lower rpm) or pre-mix use. Guys, believe one with 17 years and 350.000 kilometers experience on two-stroke bikes (and only a single one bearing failure with resulting piston jam on a highly tuned small bike).

 

@ A-AN 07:

Remember the pic i sent you of that Z in my neighbourhood that had 95k kilometers? He DID it! His odo went "round" and is close to 2k now - means his Z has over 100.000 kilometers And mine own now got digital speedometer (bicycle type), now i know my original one is lying - the faster i go the more it lies, i think mine top speed is more like (real!) 140 km/h....... fastest i got today was 122 and then the original speedo showing 135 already! I will take pic tomorrow Did you actually get my other e-mail with the pics of my "solution" for the hand levers? If not, i'll send again, please let me know

 

Best regards to all.......

 

Thanh

Ya, i got your mail on the adjustable clutch. Finally, you got a better idea to do it your way. Bro, be prepare for our upcoming polo T, i guess you also received PM from the moderator right??? Will update you soon on the outcome.

[A-AN 07]

Haus... Yeah guess tat happens when u try to pass a WRX who doesn't wan to give way to u... Haiz... Guess it's back to the workshop again..... Hmmm.... My new rear tyre I think can scrap already, the wheel locked for quite a distance. And wif tat speed!!!! Ermmm.... Wat's the add for Dunlop TT900GP again???

So bro, after what telah happen you are coming down for the 27th March 2008 gathering with your wifey RXZ issit???? Jus wondering if you come down with a taxi, hehehehehe... Just pulling your leg!!!

[daddy fiesta]

Correct me if i'm wrong...

Last time i check the price for Dunlop (Made in Japan) is $75/tyre...

By a shop called "Cycle World" behind ITE Tampines, also known as behind SAFRA Tamp...

 

And i can confirm wif you that 90/80 tyre for 17" Sports rims does exist...

As I'm using Battlex 90/80 & 80/90 on my 17" racing boy....

...Set up to attack corner like motogp rider but corner like Titanic...

:faint:

 

Not too sure about the 80/80, maybe the others are using it...

 

Ride Safe Guys....

:thumb:

 

'Set up to attack corner like motogp rider but corner like Titanic' mmm...last time i oso like dat..hehe..but slowly we learn..e main thing is ur body posture muz b correct n u must look far frm e bend..if not u easily to wobble.. simple..u look at my avatar pic..now i myself try to learn dat perfect body posture..

[daddy fiesta]

OK.

 

I know 90/80 does exist. But what I mean is, does it exist for TT900GP?

Currently I'm using Dunlop TT900, F80/80, R90/80. Can corner like motogp rider, but always get my main stand scratch the road, also like Titanic. Troublesome!

 

Thanks!

 

take out the main stand lah like mind..but troublesome if wan to wash..

[supervivid]

take out the main stand lah like mind..but troublesome if wan to wash..

 

Leceh la. If i take out main stand, want to wash later my bike will topple.

 

Funny ah, when I bought this bike, my side stand got extra metal underneath, you know something like horse-shoe? Don't know which Apek go and put. But now I cut it already, borrowed my friends metal saw. Now thinking how to make it smooth.

[syamitomo]

So bro, after what telah happen you are coming down for the 27th March 2008 gathering with your wifey RXZ issit???? Jus wondering if you come down with a taxi, hehehehehe... Just pulling your leg!!!

 

Heh heh heh.... We'll see.....

[syamitomo]

hello, just to discuss only ar, based on what u posted, running on higher octane petrol causes engine to get hotter??? higher octane petrol gives better combustion but i dun see how engine getting hotter, how u know engine getting hotter, u used a gauge to check?

 

about the petrol, u are comparing the brands in Thailand right?

cos petrol grades n quality is different in every country.

 

cheap 2T wise, rxz if anyhow wack, even use gd 2T, also will jam, but i believe its up to individual to know his bike n maintain his bike.

 

hmmm, about believing one with 17 years and 350.000 kilometers experience on two-stroke bikes, how about one with 30 yrs of riding experience? but not me of cos:cheeky:

 

no offence btw, not against anyone, but i dun wan anyone to be misled, everyone has their own experience, not saying who is right, who is wrong.

bottomline is we are here to share our experience:)

 

To tell u the truth, my Z runs further when I use 92. Surprisingly, those more expensive 95 and 98 doesn't even come close to 92!!! But just need to ignore those rough acceleration lah. Other than tat, performance wise all the same lah. Except maybe for Shell V-Power lah. Tat's when my Z will give off a more fiercer sound and more power...

 

But if u guys decided not to go anywhere wif ur Z, let me introduce u to 1 "good" stuff which I already tried on my bike, DIESEL............

[Mr wHo]

HOOO HOOO.....

 

yo Virus... the bike will be collecting tonight instead.... Final touch up on the wheels were done yesterday... ( change the spokes ar..... sport rims no shoik.... hehehe...

 

I hope the white tape did its purpose... that an old skool trick sia...

 

about some of us hu sometime while ridding and suddenly the bike goes rev up or like chocking, i will either advise you to both check the 2t suction or the petrol tank's...

The feeling is like when your fuel is about to got to reserve and when you switched to reserve mode then its running norm... i suggest get your carb service or 2 t change la....

 

Yo syam.... the diesel works great on my rxz years ago sia.... hehehe used it to clean the tank inside... muahaha Yup i agreed wif u 92 works best compared to higher octane bro..

Two stokes like us needs the roughness of the petrol to feel the ummmph!

 

Supervivid.... I personally think that metzler tyres are slippery type..... dont know why i am very particular type for tyres lah.... try pirellies?

 

 

Did happened to my FH3219D before....... missed the bike number hehehe wondering hu ridding it now or being scrapped already.... now the current z is FQ...hopefully can get used to rempitZ again.... muahahah

[supervivid]

HOOO HOOO.....

 

Yo syam.... the diesel works great on my rxz years ago sia.... hehehe used it to clean the tank inside... muahaha Yup i agreed wif u 92 works best compared to higher octane bro..

Two stokes like us needs the roughness of the petrol to feel the ummmph!

 

Supervivid.... I personally think that metzler tyres are slippery type..... dont know why i am very particular type for tyres lah.... try pirellies?

 

You sure there are Pirellies for 18"? How's the Pirellies on RXZ compared to Dunlop TT900?

 

If you guys are telling the truth about the petrol, I'm gonna change to 92 on my next refuel.

 

Some things you just gotta try!

[Fyuse]

hi guys,camner nak kasi aku nyer pipe(chamber) more mampat when aku tarik sampai 7rpm..btw skg aku nye macam takder rase sweet spot gitu..silencer bikin brape lobang and line?

[handal]

helo rxz clan riders.... sp rider can join u guys or not?? hehehehe

 

where is my hanKOtek?? smoke machine!!

 

aiseh.. ikot sesedap hati je tukar nick org haha..

its been a very very long tyme since i came in here..

even longer since i posted one haha..

a lot seemed to have happened here huh..

so how's everyone?

[Mr wHo]

Super vivid........ this is a personal preference.... what i tried and use doesnt have to follow or so....

From my experiences i prefer pirellies thats all.... you can try for once or twice then revert back to your original pref...

no harm what...

 

How bout this guys....I HAVE AN idea , how bout a few of us here use different sets of brand on the same day and same shop and we can do the comments on the individuals performances wise or so... by swapping the bike for a test ride or wat..(not on the roads of coz!)

 

Only then you can actually know which is the best FOR you NOT from all comments or recommendations...

 

hehehe bro fyuse, if you want to hear your pipe goes like a banshee, i suggest you change and repack your fibers.... but you have to throughly clean the inner can 1st wit diesel or wd40 then on your silencer / muffler too... adjust / add holes to achieve the sound you required.... i cant recalled mine... heheh but i know my bros says it sounded like a bee .buzzing..

[sabbaha]

ANYONE ORGANISING AN OUTING TO THE BIKE ASIA?

http://www.singapore-expo.com.sg/events/events_calendar_event013.php

[supervivid]

Super vivid........ this is a personal preference.... what i tried and use doesnt have to follow or so....

From my experiences i prefer pirellies thats all.... you can try for once or twice then revert back to your original pref...

no harm what...

 

How bout this guys....I HAVE AN idea , how bout a few of us here use different sets of brand on the same day and same shop and we can do the comments on the individuals performances wise or so... by swapping the bike for a test ride or wat..(not on the roads of coz!)

 

Only then you can actually know which is the best FOR you NOT from all comments or recommendations...

 

hehehe bro fyuse, if you want to hear your pipe goes like a banshee, i suggest you change and repack your fibers.... but you have to throughly clean the inner can 1st wit diesel or wd40 then on your silencer / muffler too... adjust / add holes to achieve the sound you required.... i cant recalled mine... heheh but i know my bros says it sounded like a bee .buzzing..

 

Bro, I didn't despise your personal preference. I didn't know that there are Pirelli's for 18" rims that's all. I'm sorry if I sound harsh.

 

I was thinking of trying stuffs that was shared here.

 

Some stuff I just heard about is a must try. Some that I've heard before can be ignored. Like the 92 petrol for RXZ. I always use 98.

 

Thanks for your reply.

[Mr wHo]

Bro, I didn't despise your personal preference. I didn't know that there are Pirelli's for 18" rims that's all. I'm sorry if I sound harsh.

 

I was thinking of trying stuffs that was shared here.

 

Some stuff I just heard about is a must try. Some that I've heard before can be ignored. Like the 92 petrol for RXZ. I always use 98.

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Its ok.... no ganggu boi...

Any way i am using pirellis 18 bro..

[supervivid]

Its ok.... no ganggu boi...

Any way i am using pirellis 18 bro..

 

How much did you get the 18" Sport Rims?

 

I thought of changing mine.

[Izammo]

Basic RXZ Info

Tire Pressure- Front 185kPa Rear 215kPa (For 18" spoke Rims)

Front 200kpa Rear 225kpa (For 17" alloy sport Rims)

bro the info if using 18 " sport rims pressure? i put 195 220 front rear respective.

 

and someone said these:

Big sprocket is not recommended for Long Distance travel.

Small sprocket is not recommended for Heavy riders, or riders which always carry pillion.

 

so if i always carry pillion and maybe go long distance on weekends? maybe from pasiris to central area is tat considered long distance? since im changing my sprocket soon, may need the info from u guys.

 

To tell u the truth, my Z runs further when I use 92. Surprisingly, those more expensive 95 and 98 doesn't even come close to 92!!!

ive tried 92 from spc, that time wallet dry so go for value, mileage like normal, but pick up like very heavy. so stick to 95. 98 not so good unless i get from esso. most of my frens riding Z say dont use shell, but i use shell good mileage compared to others, but yet to try caltex, petronas, and watever there is.

[Thanh-BKK]

Hi

 

@A-AN 07

Thank you for reply I've sent you another mail today with pics of my digital speedo installation...... works excellent, that thing! About the T-Shirt, please let me know "when" and "how much" (incl. shipping, dun forget those sleeve thingy i really want those, xixixi... the foot rest not too urgent) and i'll send the money. Always a big pleasure doing business with you

 

@supervivid

Thanks for that I'd love to come there, too, some day..... maybe police will stop me immediately because my Z too much modified But i have Thai license plate so shouldn't be a problem. About the LED, i connected the rear ones (on the side and below the license plate) parallel to the tail light, so they run on pure AC. Of course must have the resistor, those LED are already pre-wired to be used in a car so they come with resistor suitable for 12V. AC is no problem because the LED itself is a diode..... Light Emitting Diode (LED). Need to connect the right way 'round otherwise won't work I just used a multimeter, traced the cable to the tail light and connected them there. The blue LED brake light is pre-made like that with all resistors etc in place, i connected that parallel to the brake light (at the same place i connected the others so i had to open the cable "tree" only in one spot), so this runs on DC. Each of those LED's (-) wire is connected to the same (-) for the tail light.

 

The angel eyes in front external headlights are hooked up in a way they are "on" as soon as i turn the key - inside the front light i used the multimeter to find a wire that carries +12V as soon as the ignition is "on" (it's the wire that feeds the "horn" button because that works as soon as the ignition is "on") and connected one wire there that goes to the angel eyes. The other one is (-) that goes to any (-) wire.... actually quite easy to do. Those of course run on DC as well (battery).

 

And finally, the blue "LED bulbs" inside these external lights are connected parallel to the indicators left and right respectively, so they work as additional indicators (Z does not serve enough power to use them as actual headlights.... sad, i would love that).

 

I love to add electrical things, specially LED's and other lights, but in my origin country (Germany) this is illegal.... in Thailand nobody complains

 

With kind regards......

 

Thanh