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[ahduck]

selling my front calipers and pads

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285207

[Ethan85]

i always wonder how do u sign in as guest.

 

I also dun know le... I register Liao le.. But still sign in as guest...

[Sn0w_MaN]

check with mod with regard abt ur register

 

I also dun know le... I register Liao le.. But still sign in as guest...

[Davin]

icic i never noe the full titanium wasnt approved.

hey but theres 1 full titanium and approve is the GP twin replica pipe but the last known price i noe was 3.3k..

 

My dear friend....take a close look at the bike in my signature...is that the exhaust you are talking about?

 

If that is it then sorry to disappoint you again...the headers are stainless steel too...

[ahduck]

My dear friend....take a close look at the bike in my signature...is that the exhaust you are talking about?

 

If that is it then sorry to disappoint you again...the headers are stainless steel too...

 

oh is it? yeah is dat exos. i tot arrow website say full system titanium? so its just the end cans only. gosh.. disappointed. but hey arrow fs are still 1 of the best be it stainless steel. it will be a bonus if its made of titanium.

[Davin]

oh is it? yeah is dat exos. i tot arrow website say full system titanium? so its just the end cans only. gosh.. disappointed. but hey arrow fs are still 1 of the best be it stainless steel. it will be a bonus if its made of titanium.

 

Yeah...like you I tot that this is full titanium until I bought it...full titanium for arrow is normally misleading...it normally refers to the end cans only...if I can get titanium header for my exhaust then song liao...this exhaust is heavy due to it's dual endcan but the gain in hp is tremendous...it really gives you alot of mid range power...

[R M D]

separate headers from arrow are s steel. unless its those headers off a titanium full system. price is abt 750 inclusive shipping.

biketech21 offer 200 more.. but maybe is titanium i dunno cos i didnt ask as i no $$

 

i believe they told me its stainless steel..titanium headers if u guys can find less than a $1000 do inform me..legality is not of concern..thanks..

 

Anyone selling CBR600rr original mirrors?

 

u need it urgently??can wait for 3 weeks??

 

Yeah...like you I tot that this is full titanium until I bought it...full titanium for arrow is normally misleading...it normally refers to the end cans only...if I can get titanium header for my exhaust then song liao...this exhaust is heavy due to it's dual endcan but the gain in hp is tremendous...it really gives you alot of mid range power...

 

how much did u get yours for??more than $3k??

Edited April 18, 2010 by R M D

[hafizhakimi]

Yeah...like you I tot that this is full titanium until I bought it...full titanium for arrow is normally misleading...it normally refers to the end cans only...if I can get titanium header for my exhaust then song liao...this exhaust is heavy due to it's dual endcan but the gain in hp is tremendous...it really gives you alot of mid range power...

 

bro davin.. i also tinking of getting a pipe like yours.. koz is the most outstanding ive seen so far.. (due to the design,outlook) is the pipe really recommendable?

[Davin]

bro davin.. i also tinking of getting a pipe like yours.. koz is the most outstanding ive seen so far.. (due to the design,outlook) is the pipe really recommendable?

 

That will depends on what type of application you want to put it to use...

Dual exhaust normally have one problem...

 

1)Weight - Needless to say is due to the dual exhaust instead of 1

 

2)Losing high rev power - Well I don't really know how to explain this but somehow due to the dual exhaust system the exhaust air are pushed out of the exhaust pipe alot more easier and quicker thus resulting in losing compression and high rev power...

 

Choosing the right exhaust for the right application is very important...single exhaust full system will give you higher power on the high rev compared to dual exhaust BUT when it comes to mid rev power the single is no match for the dual exhaust...

 

I gained 9hp and 3nm of torque with this exhaust...I would recommend single if you are up for high rev power which is needed for drag...I made my choice for track...

[chottoh_89]

That will depends on what type of application you want to put it to use...

Dual exhaust normally have one problem...

 

1)Weight - Needless to say is due to the dual exhaust instead of 1

 

2)Losing high rev power - Well I don't really know how to explain this but somehow due to the dual exhaust system the exhaust air are pushed out of the exhaust pipe alot more easier and quicker thus resulting in losing compression and high rev power...

 

Choosing the right exhaust for the right application is very important...single exhaust full system will give you higher power on the high rev compared to dual exhaust BUT when it comes to mid rev power the single is no match for the dual exhaust...

 

I gained 9hp and 3nm of torque with this exhaust...I would recommend single if you are up for high rev power which is needed for drag...I made my choice for track...

 

I tot track need high Rev more than Mid Rev.

[colacin]

That will depends on what type of application you want to put it to use...

Dual exhaust normally have one problem...

 

1)Weight - Needless to say is due to the dual exhaust instead of 1

 

2)Losing high rev power - Well I don't really know how to explain this but somehow due to the dual exhaust system the exhaust air are pushed out of the exhaust pipe alot more easier and quicker thus resulting in losing compression and high rev power...

 

Choosing the right exhaust for the right application is very important...single exhaust full system will give you higher power on the high rev compared to dual exhaust BUT when it comes to mid rev power the single is no match for the dual exhaust...

 

I gained 9hp and 3nm of torque with this exhaust...I would recommend single if you are up for high rev power which is needed for drag...I made my choice for track...

 

Where are you coming up with this information?? Are you talking about the Arrow exhaust on the CBR600 specifically, or all I4 bikes in general?

[ahduck]

That will depends on what type of application you want to put it to use...

Dual exhaust normally have one problem...

 

1)Weight - Needless to say is due to the dual exhaust instead of 1

 

2)Losing high rev power - Well I don't really know how to explain this but somehow due to the dual exhaust system the exhaust air are pushed out of the exhaust pipe alot more easier and quicker thus resulting in losing compression and high rev power...

 

Choosing the right exhaust for the right application is very important...single exhaust full system will give you higher power on the high rev compared to dual exhaust BUT when it comes to mid rev power the single is no match for the dual exhaust...

 

I gained 9hp and 3nm of torque with this exhaust...I would recommend single if you are up for high rev power which is needed for drag...I made my choice for track...

 

But base on ur pic its a 1000rr. There might be a huge differences on a 600.

I have seen it on a few 1000. But never once on a 600.

Alot of reviews say it lack power compared to other FS on a 600. But it sound nice.

[Sn0w_MaN]

wow... talking abt full system again ah

[Davin]

I tot track need high Rev more than Mid Rev.

 

I don't know if I am correct but 600cc will need more high rev...

 

Where are you coming up with this information?? Are you talking about the Arrow exhaust on the CBR600 specifically, or all I4 bikes in general?

 

Hmm...600cc CBR only got single exhaust so I really dunno the outcome if changed to dual...but in general all bike would be affected when changed from single dual...sure to lose out on the high rev...

 

But base on ur pic its a 1000rr. There might be a huge differences on a 600.

I have seen it on a few 1000. But never once on a 600.

Alot of reviews say it lack power compared to other FS on a 600. But it sound nice.

 

Bro...I am riding a 1000 so I can only provide feedback base on my bike...so far I had never seen another set on the road...I know Shah(Biketech 21) sold 3 sets in total minus mine would be 2 on the road...this FS is not available for 600...

 

hmmm...weh nyou said lack alot of power to other FS on a 600 do you mean ARROW exhaust in compared to other brand? I don't know a great deal about 600s and I am still learning more but this setup worked for me for 1000cc...

[Davin]

wow... talking abt full system again ah

 

This is exchanging knowledge and experiences with fellow riders...hahaha

[ahduck]

Bro...I am riding a 1000 so I can only provide feedback base on my bike...so far I had never seen another set on the road...I know Shah(Biketech 21) sold 3 sets in total minus mine would be 2 on the road...this FS is not available for 600...

 

hmmm...weh nyou said lack alot of power to other FS on a 600 do you mean ARROW exhaust in compared to other brand? I don't know a great deal about 600s and I am still learning more but this setup worked for me for 1000cc...

 

i tot the dual pipe arrow is available for 600 but only for 07-08 models. unique used to advertise. 3.3k but was like 2yrs back

yeah i guess so. i read it on other forums they say power is somewhere lacking. either u love or hate the looks.

is ur bike fh55?

[Davin]

i tot the dual pipe arrow is available for 600 but only for 07-08 models. unique used to advertise. 3.3k but was like 2yrs back

yeah i guess so. i read it on other forums they say power is somewhere lacking. either u love or hate the looks.

is ur bike fh55?

 

Maybe it is available for the 600 I didn't went so far into it...hahaha

Bro find a picture of the 600cc with the dual exhaust leh...I want to see how it looks like...

 

Power is indeed lacking in the high rev...especially after 10,000rpms...

That is not my bike number...hee

Edited April 21, 2010 by Davin

[colacin]

Hmm...600cc CBR only got single exhaust so I really dunno the outcome if changed to dual...but in general all bike would be affected when changed from single dual...sure to lose out on the high rev...

 

The 'in general' statement is 100% incorrect, even relating to 1000cc bikes.One example is MotoGP bikes- they are all about high-revs and most have dual exhausts.

 

Exhaust design on street bikes is all about noise, emissions, packaging and cost. What the final exhaust looks like is a product of the relative importance of those factors. They are never tuned for power first and foremost.

 

I don't know you so this isn't a personal attack- just try to avoid making blanket statements like that when the facts don't support it.

[Davin]

The 'in general' statement is 100% incorrect, even relating to 1000cc bikes.One example is MotoGP bikes- they are all about high-revs and most have dual exhausts.

 

Exhaust design on street bikes is all about noise, emissions, packaging and cost. What the final exhaust looks like is a product of the relative importance of those factors. They are never tuned for power first and foremost.

 

I don't know you so this isn't a personal attack- just try to avoid making blanket statements like that when the facts don't support it.

 

Well...not trying to back fire here but bro I don't understand why you see things this way...comparing our street bike and MotoGP bike is not sensible...

 

Take Honda for example, from the start 2003 the RC211V is running on V5 engine, 3 cylinders in front and 2 at the back...their exhaust system is setup as 3 exhaust port going to the side mount exhaust and 2 exhaust port going to the undertail exhaust...How to compare when our bikes exhaust are 4 -2 -1 or 4-1 or 4-2-2...

 

Just how many different exhaust have you actually tried on your bike to see and feel the difference? If after market FS are only about emissions, packaging, noise, cost and totally not tuned for power then why is there a gain of hp after we test it on the Dyno? If this is just due to bigger diameter header, larger exhaust exit and no cataylic converter then why are after market FS designed in this way?

 

If what I said is totally incorrect why not you share your very expert advise since you are so confident and have so many supporting fact about your theroy?

Edited April 21, 2010 by Davin

[Bloodrun]

Suspension setting any recommandation guys?

 

LUV the track could we invite you guys to have a go too.... haha..

[ahduck]

Maybe it is available for the 600 I didn't went so far into it...hahaha

Bro find a picture of the 600cc with the dual exhaust leh...I want to see how it looks like...

 

Power is indeed lacking in the high rev...especially after 10,000rpms...

That is not my bike number...hee

 

its looks totally the same as a 1000

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/catalog/71139pr.jpg

 

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Suspension setting any recommandation guys?

 

LUV the track could we invite you guys to have a go too.... haha..

 

bikelab?

[colacin]

Well...not trying to back fire here but bro I don't understand why you see things this way...comparing our street bike and MotoGP bike is not sensible...

 

Take Honda for example, from the start 2003 the RC211V is running on V5 engine, 3 cylinders in front and 2 at the back...their exhaust system is setup as 3 exhaust port going to the side mount exhaust and 2 exhaust port going to the undertail exhaust...How to compare when our bikes exhaust are 4 -2 -1 or 4-1 or 4-2-2...

 

Just how many different exhaust have you actually tried on your bike to see and feel the difference? If after market FS are only about emissions, packaging, noise, cost and totally not tuned for power then why is there a gain of hp after we test it on the Dyno? If this is just due to bigger diameter header, larger exhaust exit and no cataylic converter then why are after market FS designed in this way?

 

If what I said is totally incorrect why not you share your very expert advise since you are so confident and have so many supporting fact about your theroy?

 

You said:

 

"but in general all bike would be affected when changed from single dual...sure to lose out on the high rev..."

 

I said that statement is incorrect and it is. Since you stated that without facts I can state you're wrong without facts. As soon as you can support that statement I'll reply.

 

The fundamentals of design are the same for a MotoGP bike or a hypersport bike- it doesn't matter what the configuration of the cylinders are. Most hypersport bikes use a 4-2-1 or 4-2-1-2 these days. By your own example, the Honda 211 used a 5-2-2 configuration. Why not use a 5-2-1 configuration if 2 end cans will cause a loss of power at high revs?

 

I see that I did not say "OEM" street bike exhaust design... that is what my comment referred to -not about the packaging of aftermarket exhausts- so that is my fault. Obviously aftermarket exhausts can and do allow bikes to produce more power.

 

I've had 3 exhausts on my CBR (and numbers of different exhausts on my other bikes) although not the arrow twin pipe system.

[R M D]

05-06 also have...pricewise also same as 1000rr...

[Davin]

You said:

 

"but in general all bike would be affected when changed from single dual...sure to lose out on the high rev..."

 

I said that statement is incorrect and it is. Since you stated that without facts I can state you're wrong without facts. As soon as you can support that statement I'll reply.

 

The fundamentals of design are the same for a MotoGP bike or a hypersport bike- it doesn't matter what the configuration of the cylinders are. Most hypersport bikes use a 4-2-1 or 4-2-1-2 these days. By your own example, the Honda 211 used a 5-2-2 configuration. Why not use a 5-2-1 configuration if 2 end cans will cause a loss of power at high revs?

 

I see that I did not say "OEM" street bike exhaust design... that is what my comment referred to -not about the packaging of aftermarket exhausts- so that is my fault. Obviously aftermarket exhausts can and do allow bikes to produce more power.

 

I've had 3 exhausts on my CBR (and numbers of different exhausts on my other bikes) although not the arrow twin pipe system.

 

Bro...if you want to disagree I got no objection but please do it with a humble approach...after all we are all here to exchange ideas and learn...

 

My question is have you tried a bike with single exhaust then change to dual exhaust and feel the ride difference?

 

Have you tried 4-2-1 and 4-1 and compared the difference...the reason why I said using 2 exhaust will lead to lost of power in high rev is because the compression in the exhaust is alot much lower than a single can produce...some people like to use the 4-1 setup to increase the compression thus having more power in the high rev...I am not so expert in engineering so I cannot really explain to details but that is what I felt when I tried...

 

For the V5 engine to use a 5-2-1 or 5-2-2 is almost impossible...due to the design I mean...that's why they are using 3-1 and 2-1 seperately....I hope you are not refering to motogp using dual system as a supporting fact...If you really have supporting facts or know how to explain then please do...we all will want to hear about it...

 

I think if you try riding a bike without the exhaust I hardly believe the bike will have power loh...same theory what...

Edited April 21, 2010 by Davin

[Davin]

its looks totally the same as a 1000

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/catalog/71139pr.jpg

 

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bikelab?

 

05-06 also have...pricewise also same as 1000rr...

 

Woooo...swee lehhhh...

But got any people locally owned this already? I sure want to know how is the bike performing after installing this exhaust...interesting...