[Group] SBF WaveRider

SimpleRider · January 8, 2014

Guys, just wanted to chip in. so there wont be need to speculate, Just hope to help out people with questions. I have done mine rather recently, Late 2013. Think can find it in previous posts.

Kranji Quoted me 400. Didnt do there.

Damage = 350
Shop = Kaki Bukit
Expansion, not a replacement tank
Capacity = 11-12Litres
Material = steel
Treatment = black paint/coating outside, internal chemical coating for rust prevention (white color coating)
Features = Custom Slot for Battery
Waiting Period = Approx 1 week or lesser
Fuel Gauge = Works and accurate imho, (the gauge is mounted in the battery compartment, so its below the top most of point of the tank, therefore for the first 3-4 litres, fuel gauge shows full, only after the 3l mark, the fuel gauge starts dropping accurately in proportion to remaining fuel, when fuel gauge shows TOTALLY empty, i still have 1.5l left.) Hope you guys can understand what i mean.

You get back :
1) U box
2) U box metal bracket with the helmet hooks

Cons:
Stationary push/pull seems abit heavier, very very slightly. Most obvious is when you just pump and put in on mainstand.
Moving off, with pillion or without, no difference in power or pick up(by butt dyno)
Gas efficiency decrease by 2-3km/l, original i was hitting 50km/l roughly, now its 48km/l.
Loss of U box, but i have top box, so nevermind
Loss of helmet locks, same thing, topbox

I believe you can ask him to weld the hooks back on at additional cost.

Conclusion, For me its a well worth investment, i clock 60km a day to and from work. use to pump every 2days , scared of running out of gas in tuas. now i pump once a week.
No complains, no rust, no nothing, not obvious to tp too. so yeah.

further questions can just shoot. I will try my best to answer.

Bro xianyu87,

Many thanks for contributing to the community!

I've got some questions to ask you - kindly refer to the pdf attachment

Honda Wave 125 parts manual - edited.pdf

could you tell specifically which part(s) is it that you got back after the operation? - cos I'll buy the stock parts that will be modified, so can revert back to stock set up...

cheers!

Edited January 8, 2014 by SimpleRider

SimpleRider · January 8, 2014

guys, i need clarification,

1) stock wave rims, can fit dunlop tt900 80/80 front, 90/80 rear?

2) Where can i get some smaller kick starter, the stock one damn annoying, sticks out too much, something like the jupiter mx kickstarter that keeps nicely inside will be good.

any price for reference, or place i can buy will be great.

3) where can i get spokes rims, racing boy, did, ride it, etc.. any major differences

Pricing and shop recommendations greatly appreciated.

4) Unique is selling yss shocks for wave under $100, any one knows if it is longer than stock? does it make the rear tyre touch ground on main stand?

Thanks in advance

Bro xianyu87,

I'll try to answer you queries...

1) should be can, cos i've been told that 80/90 is the max size that can be used - however don't take my word for it. check with lao jiao riders as well...

2) & 3)

There is a motor shop at a place called Kangkar Tebrau in JB - Its after the Pandan City place. You'll bypass a petrol station (Petron if I'm not wrong. its blue with red strips not Petronas which is green). You can go there for cheap parts.

The racing boy rims are about RM180 there, if I'm not wrong.

This shop was recommended to me by someone from the FZ16 (fazer) group.

Kindly refer to the photo - the location is the red circle...

The shop has a white empty signage on top.

This place is cheaper that Jalan Bapok a.k.a Ah Gua Lane. locals call it Jalan Susur (which is the correct term) - there the racing boy rims are 20 - 40 RM more expensive.

Difference? with racing boy rims can go tubeless... much easier if kena puncture somewhere - just put "worm" can still limp back safely. I wouldn't recommend the 3 spoke racing boy rims for heavy people though, someone I know broke the spoke when he had a harrd hit into a lobang in the road, however it is good in a sense that is is lighter... so, plus points for weight saving and handling...

4) I cannot remember if YSS are longer than stock, however, tyres won't touch the ground if bike was propped up on the main stand. Remember! Honda CB400 Super Four, Yamaha RXZ & Honda Wave 125 have exactly the same sized mountings for the rear suspension a.k.a gantong. so it is interchangable.

cheers!

Edited January 8, 2014 by SimpleRider

xianyu87 · January 8, 2014

eh yo simple rider, lol.. the pdf too difficult.. i try to upload the pics for you to see..

thanks for the reply to my questions. seems quite quiet here nowadays.

for qn 2 and 3, can recommend me something in sg? lol.. too leychey to go over the border.. hahaha...

also you mentioned racing boy rims can go tubeless.. i'm specifically looking just for spoke rims..

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3HgejMiIxtru9nUGUOsrXoM0p7wlpOTg6lGEyRtHlLgi3v2v8

maybe you mistaken me and refer to sports rims.. or really you mean racing boy spokes rims can go tubeless?

lastly, difference i was refering to the diff brands of spoke rims.. hahaha.. paiseh if i confused you..

i'll try to remember to get you the pics for the ubox.. cheers..

Ruullies · January 8, 2014

eh yo simple rider, lol.. the pdf too difficult.. i try to upload the pics for you to see..

thanks for the reply to my questions. seems quite quiet here nowadays.

for qn 2 and 3, can recommend me something in sg? lol.. too leychey to go over the border.. hahaha...

also you mentioned racing boy rims can go tubeless.. i'm specifically looking just for spoke rims..
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3HgejMiIxtru9nUGUOsrXoM0p7wlpOTg6lGEyRtHlLgi3v2v8
maybe you mistaken me and refer to sports rims.. or really you mean racing boy spokes rims can go tubeless?

lastly, difference i was refering to the diff brands of spoke rims.. hahaha.. paiseh if i confused you..

i'll try to remember to get you the pics for the ubox.. cheers..

Xianyu,

Is the kaki Bukit area. The mechanic's name is ah'an?

xianyu87 · January 8, 2014

Xianyu,
Is the kaki Bukit area. The mechanic's name is ah'an?

yep.......

xianyu87 · January 8, 2014

eh yo simple rider, lol.. the pdf too difficult.. i try to upload the pics for you to see..

thanks for the reply to my questions. seems quite quiet here nowadays.

for qn 2 and 3, can recommend me something in sg? lol.. too leychey to go over the border.. hahaha...

also you mentioned racing boy rims can go tubeless.. i'm specifically looking just for spoke rims..
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3HgejMiIxtru9nUGUOsrXoM0p7wlpOTg6lGEyRtHlLgi3v2v8
maybe you mistaken me and refer to sports rims.. or really you mean racing boy spokes rims can go tubeless?

lastly, difference i was refering to the diff brands of spoke rims.. hahaha.. paiseh if i confused you..

i'll try to remember to get you the pics for the ubox.. cheers..

Here you go. What you see is what you get, maybe a washer, or a rubber standoff or something is missing, but then again, i just chuck them in my junk box.. so yeah..

Just realised there's spare fuses in the battery compartment.. lol.. if i didnt take the pics i wouldnt notice it.

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230735_zpse299e878.jpg

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230835_zpsb965c151.jpg

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230809_zpsf56afd44.jpg

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230753_zps7657329d.jpg

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230819_zps4d953601.jpg

SimpleRider · January 9, 2014

Here you go. What you see is what you get, maybe a washer, or a rubber standoff or something is missing, but then again, i just chuck them in my junk box.. so yeah..

Just realised there's spare fuses in the battery compartment.. lol.. if i didnt take the pics i wouldnt notice it.

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230735_zpse299e878.jpg
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230835_zpsb965c151.jpg
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230809_zpsf56afd44.jpg
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230753_zps7657329d.jpg
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/20140108_230819_zps4d953601.jpg

xianyu87,

you kilat man! hahaha...

btw, many thanks for the pics - at least now we have an idea what was not involved in the surgery...

from what I see, only the u-box was unaffected/unmodified. basically the fabricator just removed it and used the space for the tank expansion.

ok. liddat i just need to buy a spare original tank.

kindly pm contact details, name & address of the mech? thank you!

cheers!

SimpleRider · January 9, 2014

for qn 2 and 3, can recommend me something in sg? lol.. too leychey to go over the border.. hahaha...

also you mentioned racing boy rims can go tubeless.. i'm specifically looking just for spoke rims..
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3HgejMiIxtru9nUGUOsrXoM0p7wlpOTg6lGEyRtHlLgi3v2v8
maybe you mistaken me and refer to sports rims.. or really you mean racing boy spokes rims can go tubeless?

lastly, difference i was refering to the diff brands of spoke rims.. hahaha.. paiseh if i confused you..

xianyu87,

sorry paiseh. never read your query properly.

as for spoke rims, its always better than sports rims in terms of strength - you never see scramblers and enduros in sports rims don't you? (well maybe except some like the varadero, or v-strom)

I remember someone from the cub forums saying LAB got sell racing boys rims - I've never confirmed that info before... heeh...

the only tubeless spoke rims are the enduro versions like Yamaha 1200 super tenere, BMW R1200GS, Ducati Multistrada etc etc...

as for kickstarter, again at LAB...

sorry only this much i know...

cheers!

xianyu87 · January 9, 2014

later, if possible, i go take the pic of the tank itself.. then post here for all to see ba.. if not everyone guess this guess that, abit no point.. lol..

if i remember la..

xianyu87 · January 9, 2014

xianyu87,
sorry paiseh. never read your query properly.

as for spoke rims, its always better than sports rims in terms of strength - you never see scramblers and enduros in sports rims don't you? (well maybe except some like the varadero, or v-strom)
I remember someone from the cub forums saying LAB got sell racing boys rims - I've never confirmed that info before... heeh...
the only tubeless spoke rims are the enduro versions like Yamaha 1200 super tenere, BMW R1200GS, Ducati Multistrada etc etc...

as for kickstarter, again at LAB...

sorry only this much i know...

cheers!

actually hor... spokes rims is not always better la.. i use to ride drz so i did some research back then.. they just flex and bend when they hit hard bumps... so its more comfy due to the flexing, and they are less prone to crack or break like forge/cast sports rims.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROkoFJCLWaw88VxAp-D9UP-5mEoxaAt-j15-syN5P2LEu1cb9DCQ

sports rim is more rigid so better power transfer.. yeah.. thats why sports rims more for road, spokes more for offroad/bumpy scenarios.. in sg roads, they seldom break or crack.. but in the case it does happen, it cracks..

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBEsjxFb5VKeX6s88oaE87oXnK9nW8NLVYyam8lw-QxsTv1_KG

http://www.autoinsurance.org/images/will-my-auto-insurance-pay-for-a-cracked-rim-1-250x187.jpg

different purpose ma.. but i still prefer my spokes.. hahaa...

lab arh... sian.. thought can find some shop just fit it.. way too lazy to do that.. hahahahaha..

Saw another forumer selling, but reluctant to buy cause of needing to fit it.. sian la................

thanks though

xianyu87 · January 9, 2014

hey simple rider, do you have the pdf file for the wave? kinda wanna see the service intervals and what necessary inspections need to be made. thanks

SimpleRider · January 9, 2014

actually hor... spokes rims is not always better la.. i use to ride drz so i did some research back then.. they just flex and bend when they hit hard bumps... so its more comfy due to the flexing, and they are less prone to crack or break like forge/cast sports rims.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROkoFJCLWaw88VxAp-D9UP-5mEoxaAt-j15-syN5P2LEu1cb9DCQ

sports rim is more rigid so better power transfer.. yeah.. thats why sports rims more for road, spokes more for offroad/bumpy scenarios.. in sg roads, they seldom break or crack.. but in the case it does happen, it cracks..

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBEsjxFb5VKeX6s88oaE87oXnK9nW8NLVYyam8lw-QxsTv1_KG
http://www.autoinsurance.org/images/will-my-auto-insurance-pay-for-a-cracked-rim-1-250x187.jpg

different purpose ma.. but i still prefer my spokes.. hahaa...

lab arh... sian.. thought can find some shop just fit it.. way too lazy to do that.. hahahahaha..

Saw another forumer selling, but reluctant to buy cause of needing to fit it.. sian la................

thanks though

xianyu87,

if you think about it, spokes more economical, in a sense cos they can use new parts to be rebuild.

but sports rims bend, or crack or broken mean gone case...

hahaha...

just my $0.02

SimpleRider · January 9, 2014

hey simple rider, do you have the pdf file for the wave? kinda wanna see the service intervals and what necessary inspections need to be made. thanks

xianyu87 ,

linked are the owners manual:

part 1 Honda Wave 125 owners manual (English parts only) part 1.pdf

part 2 Honda Wave 125 owners manual (English parts only) part 2.pdf

linked here are the parts manual:

part 1 Honda Wave 125 parts manual (part 1).pdf

part 2 Honda Wave 125 parts manual (part 2).pdf

at least this was what was passed to me aeons ago...

cheers!

Ardian · January 9, 2014

Guys, just wanted to chip in. so there wont be need to speculate, Just hope to help out people with questions. I have done mine rather recently, Late 2013. Think can find it in previous posts.

Kranji Quoted me 400. Didnt do there.

Damage = 350
Shop = Kaki Bukit
Expansion, not a replacement tank
Capacity = 11-12Litres
Material = steel
Treatment = black paint/coating outside, internal chemical coating for rust prevention (white color coating)
Features = Custom Slot for Battery
Waiting Period = Approx 1 week or lesser
Fuel Gauge = Works and accurate imho, (the gauge is mounted in the battery compartment, so its below the top most of point of the tank, therefore for the first 3-4 litres, fuel gauge shows full, only after the 3l mark, the fuel gauge starts dropping accurately in proportion to remaining fuel, when fuel gauge shows TOTALLY empty, i still have 1.5l left.) Hope you guys can understand what i mean.

You get back :
1) U box
2) U box metal bracket with the helmet hooks

Cons:
Stationary push/pull seems abit heavier, very very slightly. Most obvious is when you just pump and put in on mainstand.
Moving off, with pillion or without, no difference in power or pick up(by butt dyno)
Gas efficiency decrease by 2-3km/l, original i was hitting 50km/l roughly, now its 48km/l.
Loss of U box, but i have top box, so nevermind
Loss of helmet locks, same thing, topbox

I believe you can ask him to weld the hooks back on at additional cost.

Conclusion, For me its a well worth investment, i clock 60km a day to and from work. use to pump every 2days , scared of running out of gas in tuas. now i pump once a week.
No complains, no rust, no nothing, not obvious to tp too. so yeah.

further questions can just shoot. I will try my best to answer.

Nice..! Can't wait to get my Wave.. @xianyu87, where exactly in Kaki Bukit is it bro..? And is the fabricator's name happen to Ah Ann..?

xianyu87 · January 10, 2014

aiyo.... just a few post above, i replied rullies its ah ann.. by that i think you should know who the fabricator is liao.. kindly keep in mind he doesnt really want to be known.. so pm will be preferred if you wan the shop details.

xianyu87 · January 10, 2014

yo simple rider.. paiseh last night not free..

but i keep my words..

here you go.. as you can see the fuel sensor is under the battery.

one pic is the general top overall view..

one is specifically in the battery compartment..

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/LightScreen3_zps1ae8c895.jpg

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/giamhe/LightScreen1_zps99e06885.jpg

xianyu87 · January 10, 2014

sweee.. service manual and parts... wheeee

thanks dude.

xianyu87 · January 10, 2014

just want to add.. ya wires looks abit messy.. but i have never had any problems be it rain or shine.. and i ride during very heavy rain too.. soyeah.. plus he does shrink wrap your wire connections..

the rubber tube is wrap around the battery so no chattering will occur when you ride.. yeah.. dont by shop's own initiative..

all in all.. after doing it.. no problems faced.. aesthetics not as good as stock tank.. shiny and all.. but well it works for me.. and thats what matters to me..

xianyu87 · January 10, 2014

wing yap btw.. i was reading about them.. good or not their workmanship for servicing. or is it just an accessories store?

Ardian · January 10, 2014

Haha..! Sorry bro @xianyu87, didn't see that small post..

laroman · January 12, 2014

xianyu87 ,
linked are the owners manual:
part 1 [ATTACH]296855[/ATTACH]
part 2 [ATTACH]296856[/ATTACH]

linked here are the parts manual:
part 1 [ATTACH]296857[/ATTACH]
part 2 [ATTACH]296858[/ATTACH]

at least this was what was passed to me aeons ago...

cheers!

wow this is very useful! thanks!

zalk · January 13, 2014

If the kickstarter bothers you, there are two options.

1) Remove the whole thing

2) Get a saw and saw off the part that sticks out so theres only maybe half of the footrest portion left. Seeing that a Wave is only 125cc, as long as you can put your foot on the kickstarter I don't think it will be a problem kicking it over. Kickstart is only a backup anyway so you won't use it much.

xianyu87 · January 13, 2014

wah.. sawing is way too extreme la.. and removing it defeats the purpose as a back up starter.. thats why i'm looking for the slim profile chrome ones

laroman · January 14, 2014

hi all..just wanna ask.. is it possible to add those kind of auto chain oiler for honda wave with chain guard?

yitno87 · January 14, 2014

Its possible but it's not necessary. Just keep a small bottle of chain wax under your seat. If u need to use it, put on main stand, on your engine, kick to gear 1 to roll your chains, spray it on. =) it's never been a hassle to me.

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