CBR600 F4i/F4/F3/RR Riders

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 8 2006, 07:34 PM

if u refer to the morning sickness....Yes,

 

every time i want to kick it....it takes three hard kick...b4 the breast wakeup.

 

then....have to wait for it to warm till 45 then...it willing to move.

Good to hear that our notes telly, else quite frightening...spending 5 figures on a gay spider! Usually after riding, if u start again, it is juz like the F4, requires one one soft clicks! But from the specs, the compression ratio quite similar to the F4 leh...why huh. Is zit the relays? starter motor? low current cables? can't be the batt, it is new. or it zit becos it is a old spidy?

 

Maybe on the next outing Kori organises, u can help mi check out the weight of the clutch. Dun believe Honda makes the clutch so heavy....like my other bike... blister coming out from my finger liao...

 

Had tried to remove the entire tail to wrap the exhaust....some donkey work, lastd till 3am last nite. Loads of secert hook n catches.

 

Anyway did Alvzz solved his Starting problems?

[hockie69]

But from the specs, the compression ratio quite similar to the F4 leh...why huh. Is zit the relays? starter motor? low current cables? can't be the batt, it is new. or it zit becos it is a old spidy?

 

i read up somewhere that said, the RR PGM-Fi works differently from the F4i version.i guess in layman term it means there are more "system check/fault check" & the work the engine is tune is different.

 

in layman,the RR is a high rev spider.something that u need to "push it real hard"(read-6K rpm & above) b4 it performs while F4i having touring in mind....are spare with the high-rev/high-virbration found on the RR.

 

Dun believe Honda makes the clutch so heavy....like my other bike... blister coming out from my finger liao

 

if u refer to de other "red" underseat exhaust one...then nope..the RR is much ligther(about 30% ligther compare to mine last time).get it fix....could be cable need oil or plate is wearing off liao.

 

Had tried to remove the entire tail to wrap the exhaust....some donkey work, lastd till 3am last nite. Loads of secert hook n catches.

 

not that hard la....just need some proper tools & 1 comforty seat Plus lots of removing.i took out mine to clear the exhaust/swingarm too.but atless the exhaust is not so "Easy" to kanna borrow as compare to side mount exhaust setup.yeah?

 

 

Anyway did Alvzz solved his Starting problems?

 

i guess it a one-off event....never heard from him again...so i guess..the battery just kanna "scared" that time.

 

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 8 2006, 09:57 PM

i read up somewhere that said, the RR PGM-Fi works differently from the F4i version.i guess in layman term it means there are more "system check/fault check" & the work the engine is tune is different.

 

in layman,the RR is a high rev spider.something that u need to "push it real hard"(read-6K rpm & above) b4 it performs while F4i having touring in mind....are spare with the high-rev/high-virbration found on the RR.

 

 

 

if u refer to de other "red" underseat exhaust one...then nope..the RR is much ligther(about 30% ligther compare to mine last time).get it fix....could be cable need oil or plate is wearing off liao.

 

 

 

not that hard la....just need some proper tools & 1 comforty seat Plus lots of removing.i took out mine to clear the exhaust/swingarm too.but atless the exhaust is not so "Easy" to kanna borrow as compare to side mount exhaust setup.yeah?

 

 

 

 

i guess it a one-off event....never heard from him again...so i guess..the battery just kanna "scared" that time.

 

Yup, agreed. The ride is definately rough below 5k feel loads of bassy noises from the exhaust but the power like less than a Super 4(with V-tech). Sadly a graet disapointment till i tok to Alvzz, he mention abt the mid-band. Till then it did work out at 6K+, lots and loads of boost coming from nowhere! But the interesting thing is that at that point, the machine's vibration and aerodynamics intergrity seems to disapper, it certainly feels like wind breaker!! Cool

 

The F class is no doubt the best in its comfort and fuel effiency, design to have more torque and response at lower rpms. For mi that is the fun part, especially on Spore rds, red light to red light conditions. In contrast, the newer gen are far more slower in the response, hahaha, had stalled the engine twice since i got it. Got to put on P-plate nxt time. It really requires higer revs to move it. Higher revs equals higher fuel consumption equal less money to la kopi

 

Seriously thinking of making some changes to make it more F4. Maybe i should start adding tooths to my rear spoket. Agility is a problem when the speed is abv 170, on the F4 i had the impression of taking save evasive action whenever my Lighted Path was upset. But this spidy seems to locked on to the end of the road, not much compromise in the steering angle and certainly no rooms for mistake...in short, not for the weak heart.

 

Thanks Mr Hockie for the feedbk , then i m quite sure my clutch is probaly one factor contributing to the uncomfortable experiences. Dun remember riding any jap bike that comes with a heavy clutch. Had also notices some soft rumbling sound from the clutch plates....there it goes for my la kopi fund again.

 

The ideas of mod-ing the exhaust flashed across, but thinking of removing the tail again, i wait for the next blue moon. Do u have any idea where i can get the blue print of the RS-5 or the Arkaprovic? To cut the pipe is already a big headache, that is why last time i thought of getting a used one to clone a RS-5 alike without spending those figures.

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Apr 8 2006, 07:51 PM

cbr6 f4 is EFI model right? just curious. Any chance anyone knows if bike production will do a full or near full reloan for a F4?

U can also try to reach one of the bro here in this thread HONG. Anyway he is the thread starter, he might be able to help ya. Some of the info u might wanna prepare before hand, u know lah Bro HONG is a busy man.

 

1) Amount of the loan

2) Loan Period

3) Intersest rate in your budget

4) The year/make/model of the said vehicle

5) Outstanding loan of the said vehicle

6) Hirer Payslip and CPF printout

7) Gurantor, age sensitive

8) At least a TPFT in the insurance

 

GoodLuck Bro!

[hockie69]

The ride is definately rough below 5k feel loads of bassy noises from the exhaust but the power like less than a Super 4(with V-tech).

 

Boonsiew 400SF Vtec-3 : 52.3HP @ 11.5K RPM (39kw),3.82kg-m @ 9.5k rpm

 

the current spider is at 11.5k RPM : 105HP , 6.63kg-m

 

the current spider doing 52.3HP at : 6.8K RPM , 5.8kg-m

 

sad to say,the spider at below 5k RPM : 35HP only , 5.11kg-m

 

*which explain why it feel so slow for the spider.spider need a virigan !

 

but the extra 200cc apart from 400SF,do make a different lor.the bike not slow....u are too fast.

 

 

Till then it did work out at 6K+, lots and loads of boost coming from nowhere! But the interesting thing is that at that point, the machine's vibration and aerodynamics intergrity seems to disapper

 

yes- the torque/power will serve u well till 14k rpm(HP),12k rpm(torque)...anything more & u wasting petrol nia.

 

the spider is build for high-rev...dude.

 

Higher revs equals higher fuel consumption equal less money to la kopi 

 

maybe it my gentle style...i'm doing 240km till reserve flash.

 

Do u have any idea where i can get the blue print of the RS-5 or the Arkaprovic?

 

honesty....i dun think it the design that need changing.it the material used in the process making de stock pipe.the weight is 1 of the extra factor.rather then demage some good design product...why not replace with a much ligther product that has a better flow rate? as we all know.the original product were design for the whole world.(of course,we aint seeing snow in SG anytime soon).

 

 

 

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 8 2006, 11:54 PM

Boonsiew 400SF Vtec-3 : 52.3HP @ 11.5K RPM (39kw),3.82kg-m @ 9.5k rpm

 

the current spider is at 11.5k RPM : 105HP , 6.63kg-m

 

the current spider doing 52.3HP at : 6.8K RPM , 5.8kg-m

 

sad to say,the spider at below 5k RPM : 35HP only , 5.11kg-m

 

*which explain why it feel so slow for the spider.spider need a virigan !

 

but the extra 200cc apart from 400SF,do make a different lor.the bike not slow....u are too fast.

 

 

 

 

yes- the torque/power will serve u well till 14k rpm(HP),12k rpm(torque)...anything more & u wasting petrol nia.

 

the spider is build for high-rev...dude.

 

 

 

maybe it my gentle style...i'm doing 240km till reserve flash.

 

 

 

honesty....i dun think it the design that need changing.it the material used in the process making de stock pipe.the weight is 1 of the extra factor.rather then demage some good design product...why not replace with a much ligther product that has a better flow rate? as we all know.the original product were design for the whole world.(of course,we aint seeing snow in SG anytime soon).

 

 

 

Wow Mr Hockie is really someone who handles neat figures I see the figure explains alot, no wonder it feel like Super 4 at low revs! Initially thought the ECU went haywire or the fuel feed go problem. The diff is really big on tis generation. Wonder wat kindda machine we will be looking at in the 08 and 09 models.

 

Dun thinks i will ever see the needles at 12k rpm....not on local roads anyway. 240km is certainly comforting! From the specs it can only go 230. Good to know!

 

Already start to get used to the bassy notes the exhaust produces.... starting to like it....like music to the ears. Not muz material to choose from to lighten the weight. Most of the "weight lost" had been done in the R&D liao. Unless going for tiatanium or alloy material. The cost in the industrial market is already quite ex, excluding welding and customizing. The thermal expansion and the heat dissipation might not be friendly to the butt, juz above the "heater". The cost involves probaly can get several Akar.

 

After market exhaust can only drop btw 300g to 500g, it does lighten the load but it also increases the flow rate and consumption. For long run, not fuel ecnomics. Juz hope to "tune" the notes, not really for the boost but rather the looks...hahaha.

[yctradingsg]

aiyo my job's technically got no CPF.

think like that i can't do reloan liao unless use my dad's name to be owner....but don't want la....later he nag nag nag....arghh....back to the drawing board....

u think 14.9k otr for a FX cbr6rr with pc3 and micron worth? very gian sia

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Apr 9 2006, 11:22 AM

aiyo my job's technically got no CPF.

think like that i can't do reloan liao unless use my dad's name to be owner....but don't want la....later he nag nag nag....arghh....back to the drawing board....

u think 14.9k otr for a FX cbr6rr with pc3 and micron worth? very gian sia

Sounds reasonable for an 03 model RR . Is it the red color one ?

[yctradingsg]

nah it's at shop leh.....hehe

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Apr 9 2006, 11:22 AM

aiyo my job's technically got no CPF.

think like that i can't do reloan liao unless use my dad's name to be owner....but don't want la....later he nag nag nag....arghh....back to the drawing board....

u think 14.9k otr for a FX cbr6rr with pc3 and micron worth? very gian sia

Wow bro, u manage to find a RR03? So many people looking for one!

 

The micron and the PC3, the most worth 1.5K. On second market, it will be valued about 900 if the condition is good.

 

14,900-900=14,000 for the RR03. New was 19500 machine. Owner losses 5.5K in 3yrs deperciation. 14,000-1000 (rd tax+TPFT+transfer) =13k not too bad

 

It depend on guts feeling loh, if u thinks the paintwork and condition is good, by all means go ahead loh. Do take note, if u find the sound of the engine is rough, that is normal for an RR. Quite diff form convection in line four. Anyway with the micro on and the PC3....well it shld sound agressive!

 

For the loan, if u approach Hitachi, they will charge u 100 bucks as a process fee. Without the CPF printout, most probaly the loan will not get thur...100 bucks non-refundable. They can only loan up to 80%, any vehicle more than 3yrs old likely to get less than 80%.

[Shingo]

Planing to get this bike..

 

Any one knows the market price for a FV plate CBR600F4i now?

 

Need some advise whether to get this bike or a Super 4 spec II.

 

Also, not too sure what's the difference between a sports model and a sports tourer model.

 

Petrol comsumption? full tank-$? for ?km

 

Also, will the bike look very odd if 2 side panniers is fixed as im used to having box and storage space.

 

Any kind souls can advise?

[HONG]

Originally posted by ellamcoy@Apr 8 2006, 10:55 PM

U can also try to reach one of the bro here in this thread HONG. Anyway he is the thread starter, he might be able to help ya. Some of the info u might wanna prepare before hand, u know lah Bro HONG is a busy man.

 

1) Amount of the loan

2) Loan Period

3) Intersest rate in your budget

4) The year/make/model of the said vehicle

5) Outstanding loan of the said vehicle

6) Hirer Payslip and CPF printout

7) Gurantor, age sensitive

8) At least a TPFT in the insurance

 

GoodLuck Bro!

I nt really busy... jus that i am always very tired after work.... sometimes is either on the wheel or lazy so never replied any of Kori's sms... and i am very sorry abt that for guys who are looking for reloan... the most i can help is a 70% loan ..... if interested can jus PM me for more details...

[Flaky_Boi]

Woah~ Since when Hong become Loanshark? haha

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by Shingo@Apr 9 2006, 01:38 PM

Planing to get this bike..

 

Any one knows the market price for a FV plate CBR600F4i now?

 

Need some advise whether to get this bike or a Super 4 spec II.

 

Also, not too sure what's the difference between a sports model and a sports tourer model.

 

Petrol comsumption? full tank-$? for ?km

 

Also, will the bike look very odd if 2 side panniers is fixed as im used to having box and storage space.

 

Any kind souls can advise?

9 - 10K should be the range . Btw , there is an FT plate yellow touring f4i at Loois . FT plate , do take a look .

[hockie69]

Originally posted by ellamcoy@Apr 9 2006, 06:11 AM

Dun thinks i will ever see the needles at 12k rpm....not on local roads anyway. 240km is certainly comforting! From the specs it can only go 230. Good to know!

once it pass 7k rpm...it a mere seconds b4 12k rpm is reach....so....eeerrr...not exactly very rare to happen.

[hockie69]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Apr 9 2006, 11:22 AM

u think 14.9k otr for a FX cbr6rr with pc3 and micron worth? very gian sia

sounds like a bike which can be found at n*w So*th*n motor.

 

the bike outlook is neat....engine dunno...never heard it roar.

 

but the 1k RR beside is much nicer......even the bass sounds is sweet.

[yctradingsg]

not new southern la

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by Shingo@Apr 9 2006, 01:38 PM

Planing to get this bike..

 

Any one knows the market price for a FV plate CBR600F4i now?

 

Need some advise whether to get this bike or a Super 4 spec II.

 

Also, not too sure what's the difference between a sports model and a sports tourer model.

 

Petrol comsumption? full tank-$? for ?km

 

Also, will the bike look very odd if 2 side panniers is fixed as im used to having box and storage space.

 

Any kind souls can advise?

Ya the market price for this F4 model very hard to come down. As Speedpass mention, should be around that range loh. Try to go for the F4 class if u already have the qualify liciense.

 

The pricing btw S4 n F4 only a few K diff. Insurance for 3rd party also abt 100 bucks diff. All the horsepower is there when u need it. The torque, burst of the pickup is fun to play with as compare to a S4.

 

Might be ya lucky day, think there is a bro here intending to sell his F4i Sports! U can try to PM KORI for more info. Goodluck unless he changed his mind to keep it !

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by HONG@Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM

I nt really busy... jus that i am always very tired after work.... sometimes is either on the wheel or lazy so never replied any of Kori's sms... and i am very sorry abt that for guys who are looking for reloan... the most i can help is a 70% loan ..... if interested can jus PM me for more details...

Think we can understand, no worries bro! If u are not too busy, hope to see u on the next outing....

[hockie69]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Apr 9 2006, 10:49 PM

not new southern la

my bad...it dun happen to be beisde unity ?

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by Flaky_Boi@Apr 9 2006, 05:00 PM

Woah~ Since when Hong become Loanshark? haha

Hi bro, heard u got a red 954 at ya disposal

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 9 2006, 06:22 PM

once it pass 7k rpm...it a mere seconds b4 12k rpm is reach....so....eeerrr...not exactly very rare to happen.

Totally....agreed....all the blood in the brain nearly burst outta from my ears......

[hockie69]

Originally posted by ellamcoy@Apr 9 2006, 11:51 PM

Totally....agreed....all the blood in the brain nearly burst outta from my ears......

i see that u were having fun with ur new spider.

[ellamcoy]

Originally posted by hockie69@Apr 10 2006, 12:08 AM

i see that u were having fun with ur new spider.

Oh yeah, u bet. It is a pity that i got a weak heart else can join u guys to burn some rubbers. Got a few outstanding stuff to be done on hand, outing with passport will be some distance away. Hopefully some other bro like Kori, Hong, xized, hmm_ and the rest can go for a short sight seeing trip together..not to forget the Tim Sum(primary purpose)...hehehe..

[Flaky_Boi]

Originally posted by ellamcoy@Apr 9 2006, 11:41 PM

Hi bro, heard u got a red 954 at ya disposal

Woah~ Bro, How u know 1? Hong told u?

 

Ya lor, joined ur Honda family.

Long time nv see u lehx. When wanna meet up?