Honda Shadow 400

Hydher · March 10, 2014

Time for that dreadful chain change?

How to tell? If you pull your chain from the rear sprocket and it stretches really out... its a goner.

Better to change with the sprockets together so that the whole drivetrain last longer.

Dont make the same mistake i did and order the 750ace sprocket for my 400.

Shadow ace 400 uses the same front sprocket as the steed 400.

JTR296.16

The rear JTR1304.43

For this set up, you will need a 525 size chain with 122-124 Links

If you decide to go for the JTR1304.38 (38tooth)

You can get 120-122 Links

Dont bother with the non-oring chains

Go for O or X-ring which is superior

X-ring reduces friction and is stronger[TABLE=width: 100%]

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Edited March 17, 2014 by Hydher
525 not 520!

Cruiserian · March 11, 2014

Thats too bad bro. Lets say I buy the Shadow 400. Cost is 18.5k. For how much can I sell it after 2 yrs.
(As of now, I'm not sure how long I'll be in Singapore).

Sure drop a lot bro. If u have intention to change bike again, or unsure if u will use it for long, don't buy first hand. I sold my 4 years old shadow 400 ace for $7.5k few years back.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/y6uqusyq.jpg

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Hydher · March 11, 2014

Save the buck.

Ever walked into the mechanic and when he asked you when was the last time you changed it and you didnt know?

What are the rates? 60$ ?

Many go for the nicely bottled engine ice or maxima cool aide.

Did you know that water is the most efficient in cooling?

But using water alone, steam is generated so the engine isnt well cooled because of the layer of bubbles in between the water and the metal surface.

The solution? Use something like water wetter.

What are the benefits of using glycol? Lubrication of water pump seals.

Can I use tap water? No.. the water in the coolant system needs to be "pure".

Distilled water.. not from ntuc but those used to top up battery water.. those at petrol station for $1 a liter.

How to change?

Wait many hours for bike to cool down.

Get something to catch 2.5L of fluid below the bike.

Remove fuel tank to access the right neck cover for coolant cap.

Drain the fluid by the coolant drain nut and back of rear cylinder.(refer to manual)

Use a stringe with a tube and drain coolant reservoir.

If coolant looks ok, skip the vinegar soak.

Top up main coolant tank and reservoir and your preferred combination of coolant mix and start the bike with the coolant cap opened to burp out air.

You are done and good to go for 2 years.

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/impp_0808_04_z+cooling_fact_or_fiction+water_wetter_closeup.jpg]

If you are broke, skip the water wetter and mix distilled water with the $3 waxco concentrate.

http://www.waxco.net/product/?page=2&sort&keyword&category=12

Hosaybo6594 · March 11, 2014

Hi guys...My name is Henry,Recently bought a Honda magna,wish to joint u guys for coffee session

or any u guy i can link up here? my contaxt is 9180 3033,hope to meet up u guys soon,Thks n Cheers!

Cruiserian · March 12, 2014

Hi guys...My name is Henry,Recently bought a Honda magna,wish to joint u guys for coffee session
or any u guy i can link up here? my contaxt is 9180 3033,hope to meet up u guys soon,Thks n Cheers!

Hello Henry!

Almost every Friday night we are meeting up for coffee and supper. I believe this Friday will be the same. Sometimes we also go to jb for petrol run. I will msg u once we have a concrete meeting agenda for this Friday. Cheers.

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Coyote66 · March 12, 2014

Sure drop a lot bro. If u have intention to change bike again, or unsure if u will use it for long, don't buy first hand. I sold my 4 years old shadow 400 ace for $7.5k few years back.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/y6uqusyq.jpg

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should have sold to me

i pay u 8K :-)

Cruiserian · March 12, 2014

should have sold to me
i pay u 8K :-)

It's too late bro. I'm regretting now. I should have kept it or sell to someone I knew.

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One Headlight · March 13, 2014

It's too late bro. I'm regretting now. I should have kept it or sell to someone I knew.
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Sellers remorse? Happens all the time when you get attached to your bike.

I get that all the time. Still not used to parting with a ride I worked and spent so much to fix.

Hydher · March 13, 2014

TIP!

If you tilt your bike towards the leftmost with the sidestand and measure your dipstick oil and if there is a minimal amount of oil, your dipstick will be 4/6 full when upright.

Slight oil on dipstick to 1/2 the dipstick mark will take 400ml.

Cheers and hope this helps someone

Cruiserian · March 13, 2014

Sellers remorse? Happens all the time when you get attached to your bike.
I get that all the time. Still not used to parting with a ride I worked and spent so much to fix.

Yes jimmy I'm so remorseful. Out of so many bikes that I've changed, this is the only bike that makes me feel so bad in my life.

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jason2009 · March 13, 2014

Hi guys, any one used to push start your shadow?

I have to push start yesterday evening and this morning because l left the light on untill it died.

I succeeded to push start at gear one, after time of try at gear 2, gear 1, and even gear 3. This surprised me, as I always think gear 2 should be used to push start. And I have always been using gear 2 to push start with my previous phantom.

anyone like to comment?

jason2009 · March 13, 2014

Another question is is there a warning signal if it is using reserved fuel? How long could the reserved fuel last?

thank your for your information

Cruiserian · March 13, 2014

I managed to push start my shadow at gear 3 alone. But my advise is to ask someone to help u push while you sitting on it. This will make your life easier and it is more safer because u have full control of the bike.

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Cruiserian · March 13, 2014

Another question is is there a warning signal if it is using reserved fuel? How long could the reserved fuel last?

thank your for your information

No signal bro. It's always safer to use your mileage meter to calculate your fuel consumption. This is in case your fuel cock is already spoilt, and you are already finishing your reserve petrol without knowing it.

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Hydher · March 13, 2014

Yes jimmy I'm so remorseful. Out of so many bikes that I've changed, this is the only bike that makes me feel so bad in my life.
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Dont fall into the losing war against lta on loud pipes

Hydher · March 13, 2014

Hi guys, any one used to push start your shadow?
I have to push start yesterday evening and this morning because l left the light on untill it died.

I succeeded to push start at gear one, after time of try at gear 2, gear 1, and even gear 3. This surprised me, as I always think gear 2 should be used to push start. And I have always been using gear 2 to push start with my previous phantom.

anyone like to comment?

Another question is is there a warning signal if it is using reserved fuel? How long could the reserved fuel last?

thank your for your information

]

Mr Jason. My sentiments.

Well, the part where you pinch your fingers to change the reserve switch should always be facing down(12L). When you face it towards the sky, theres 2L of reserve.

alpe · March 14, 2014

Hi guys. Looking forward to get a shadow 400 at the second hand market. Is there any particular stuff to look out for?

Thanks,

Alpe

vickyboy47 · March 14, 2014

Sure drop a lot bro. If u have intention to change bike again, or unsure if u will use it for long, don't buy first hand. I sold my 4 years old shadow 400 ace for $7.5k few years back.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/y6uqusyq.jpg
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That's a lot for depreciation bro!! Makes me think. I was looking for new ones just because I didnt want to get the motorcycle from someone, without knowing how the machine was maintained. But looks like resale price of the bike is something I need to consider seriously.

Anyways .. what was the cost of new bike at the time when you sold your bike?

Thanks for this info.

And I have another general question. Now that the COE price has leaped to $4k, will it indirectly increase the cost of second hand bikes too?? Will the sellers of used bikes start quoting higher prices??

Thanks!

vickyboy47 · March 14, 2014

Sure drop a lot bro. If u have intention to change bike again, or unsure if u will use it for long, don't buy first hand. I sold my 4 years old shadow 400 ace for $7.5k few years back.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/y6uqusyq.jpg
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That's a lot for depreciation bro!! Makes me think. I was looking for new ones just because I didnt want to get the motorcycle from someone, without knowing how the machine was maintained. But looks like resale price of the bike is something I need to consider seriously.

Anyways .. what was the cost of new bike at the time when you sold your bike?

Thanks for this info.

And I have another general question. Now that the COE price has leaped to $4k, will it indirectly increase the cost of second hand bikes too?? Will the sellers of used bikes start quoting higher prices??

Thanks!

vickyboy47 · March 14, 2014

Sure drop a lot bro. If u have intention to change bike again, or unsure if u will use it for long, don't buy first hand. I sold my 4 years old shadow 400 ace for $7.5k few years back.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/y6uqusyq.jpg

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And your motorcycle looks gorgeous !! . Are those the stock exhausts or you changed the pipes ??

Any idea how much Vance and Hines pipes costs in Singapore ??

gohjohan · March 14, 2014

Time for that dreadful chain change?

How to tell? If you pull your chain from the rear sprocket and it stretches really out... its a goner.

Better to change with the sprockets together so that the whole drivetrain last longer.
Dont make the same mistake i did and order the 750ace sprocket for my 400.
Shadow ace 400 uses the same front sprocket as the steed 400.
JTR296.16
The rear JTR1304.43

For this set up, you will need a 520 size chain with 122-124 Links

If you decide to go for the JTR1304.38 (38tooth)
You can get 120-122 Links

Dont bother with the non-oring chains
Go for O or X-ring which is superior
X-ring reduces friction and is stronger[TABLE=width: 100%]
[TR]
[TD][TABLE=width: 100%]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

That's why I like shaft drive. I don't get this headache

Save the buck.
Ever walked into the mechanic and when he asked you when was the last time you changed it and you didnt know?
What are the rates? 60$ ?

Many go for the nicely bottled engine ice or maxima cool aide.

Did you know that water is the most efficient in cooling?
But using water alone, steam is generated so the engine isnt well cooled because of the layer of bubbles in between the water and the metal surface.
The solution? Use something like water wetter.

What are the benefits of using glycol? Lubrication of water pump seals.
Can I use tap water? No.. the water in the coolant system needs to be "pure".
Distilled water.. not from ntuc but those used to top up battery water.. those at petrol station for $1 a liter.

How to change?
Wait many hours for bike to cool down.
Get something to catch 2.5L of fluid below the bike.
Remove fuel tank to access the right neck cover for coolant cap.
Drain the fluid by the coolant drain nut and back of rear cylinder.(refer to manual)
Use a stringe with a tube and drain coolant reservoir.
If coolant looks ok, skip the vinegar soak.
Top up main coolant tank and reservoir and your preferred combination of coolant mix and start the bike with the coolant cap opened to burp out air.

You are done and good to go for 2 years.

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/impp_0808_04_z+cooling_fact_or_fiction+water_wetter_closeup.jpg]

If you are broke, skip the water wetter and mix distilled water with the $3 waxco concentrate.
http://www.waxco.net/product/?page=2&sort&keyword&category=12

That's where I went wrong

Coyote66 · March 14, 2014

Hi guys, any one used to push start your shadow?
I have to push start yesterday evening and this morning because l left the light on untill it died.

I succeeded to push start at gear one, after time of try at gear 2, gear 1, and even gear 3. This surprised me, as I always think gear 2 should be used to push start. And I have always been using gear 2 to push start with my previous phantom.

anyone like to comment?

Just roll it down from the slope of the multi storey carpark

Cruiserian · March 15, 2014

That's a lot for depreciation bro!! Makes me think. I was looking for new ones just because I didnt want to get the motorcycle from someone, without knowing how the machine was maintained. But looks like resale price of the bike is something I need to consider seriously.
Anyways .. what was the cost of new bike at the time when you sold your bike?
Thanks for this info.

And I have another general question. Now that the COE price has leaped to $4k, will it indirectly increase the cost of second hand bikes too?? Will the sellers of used bikes start quoting higher prices??

Thanks!

During that time I heard that brand new cost around 15k. I bought it at 8k when she was 2years old.

Bike shops sure make use of higher Coe price as an excuse to jet up the prices of 2nd hand bikes. My opinion is try not to buy 2nd bikes from bike shop unless u really have to. Direct purchase from seller will be more affordable and there's more room for price negotiation.

And to answer your question, yes if seller already renew the Coe at this point of time. Usually they will amortize the cost into the price. But as I mentioned, there's always room for negotiation.

You can download all the past Coe prices and check it out with the seller on when the Coe was renewed then u can do a simple calculation on the Coe cost during that time. So if seller quotes u high due to Coe price, then u can analyze from there and nego further with them. Don't forget to add in depreciation cost of Coe too.

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Edited March 15, 2014 by Cruiserian

jason2009 · March 15, 2014

Thank youï¼Œ Cruserian and Hydher, for the information you shared.

Cheers,

alpe · March 17, 2014

Hi guys,

Any recommendation to get a back seat rest support? Also where in singapore or jb a good place to install side or backbox for shadow 400?

Alpe

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