Honda RVF400 Riders

[GhostRider17]

Originally posted by acidhurt@Feb 22 2005, 11:06 AM

guys, wat is the market value for FQ rvf if push in bike shop? Any shop to recommend tat take in rvf at good rate? my 2A just revoked.. sianz...

do u appeal ??? sometimes depend on bike condition wan ... if best u sell to private seller

[acidhurt]

Originally posted by GhostRider17@Feb 22 2005, 11:10 AM

do u appeal ??? sometimes depend on bike condition wan ... if best u sell to private seller

appeal liao.. but unsuccessful.. cos i got caught red handed.. my 1st 8points got clocked 97km/h on 60km rd at clementi ave 6 by dunno wat cam at Lamp Post 38.. 2nd 8point clocked 128km/h at kje by mobile cam... sigh... regular servicing = smoothness = shiok v sound = more rev = revoked..

[ravenSP]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@Feb 22 2005, 01:31 AM

in fuel injected vehicles, it is connected to the ecu, to immidiately alter air/fuel ratio at the injector.

 

even wide band power commanders, they do include oxygen sensor as well.

 

it is impossible, to have the ideal setting in every rpm. but it also aids in tuning to achieve better results.

ok, i wasnt sure about if it'll be useful or not so i went to ask a friend about this. his comment was that it wouldnt be useful at all since you do not have an ecu on the bike.

 

from what i understand, the ecu corrects the amount of fuel going in by readings from the oxygen sensor and from some other sensor that i cant remember. even if it will help tuning for our rvfs when the bike is not running, it'll only be extra weight on the bike since the reading you get WILL vary with the speed of which you are going due to the different amount of air that goes in.

 

and imho, maybe you are able to see the readings from different rpm at different speeds, but i think that's useless unless you really know how to tune the carb yourself. cause there is only one setting for the carbs and i suspect you have to fiddle around with it alot if you want your optimal settings. since the oxy sensor will only help you see how the fuel/air ratio is.

 

instead of putting that oxy sensor first, go change your front discs lah! its very dangerous... its warped quite badly right?

[Black_Knights]

Originally posted by acidhurt@Feb 22 2005, 12:00 PM

appeal liao.. but unsuccessful.. cos i got caught red handed.. my 1st 8points got clocked 97km/h on 60km rd at clementi ave 6 by dunno wat cam at Lamp Post 38.. 2nd 8point clocked 128km/h at kje by mobile cam... sigh... regular servicing = smoothness = shiok v sound = more rev = revoked..

so total will be 16 points , dun tell me u till at 12 point ... if tp revoked u class 2A only then i think u have class 2B or if all classes then sorry bro

[GhostRider17]

Originally posted by Black_Knights@Feb 22 2005, 12:31 PM

so total will be 16 points , dun tell me u till at 12 point ... if tp revoked u class 2A only then i think u have class 2B or if all classes then sorry bro

maybe u check out whether is it all classes...

[acidhurt]

Originally posted by Black_Knights@Feb 22 2005, 12:31 PM

so total will be 16 points , dun tell me u till at 12 point ... if tp revoked u class 2A only then i think u have class 2B or if all classes then sorry bro

just revoke my class 2A only... my 1st offence is on oct 04, dec 04 i suppose to get my 12 points topup but during probation if kana offences, won't get the topup.. So i left 4 points.. jan 05 i kanna another 8 points.. so there goes my 2A.. heres how the points systems works:

 

Class 2A: 12 points (-16 points = revoked)

Class 2B: 24 points (-16 points = 8 points)

 

Now my 2b left 8 points..

[GhostRider17]

at least u still got class2B ...

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by acidhurt@Feb 22 2005, 11:06 AM

guys, wat is the market value for FQ rvf if push in bike shop? Any shop to recommend tat take in rvf at good rate? my 2A just revoked.. sianz...

sad to hear your case........sigh TP and their toys

 

instead of selling to shop, why dun you sell to private owner? tink some one was asking abt buying rvf sometime ago rite?

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@Feb 22 2005, 01:33 AM

today, i drag 1st gear until 90 plus. then i saw fire at my exhaust. at times it was distorted yellow flame and sometimes it was sharp blue flame.

 

has is it got anything to do with carb setting or dirty air filter

I am not sure but is this consider backfire? to my knowledge backfire is due to too rich and incomplete combustion in the cylinders right?

 

that means too much fuel mix in by the carburator?! but you were dragging the gear in the first place so it should be rich wat?! IMO your air filter and carburatur should be fine....

 

but have no idea with the colours of the flame.....I only know cars which are purposely tuned to be rich has backfire too....what I saw for these cars....sg kallang carpark....is bluish or yellowish orangy colour flame too....

 

engine is like a pandora box.......mysterious.

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by GhostRider17@Feb 22 2005, 09:28 AM

wow cool man finally can see a street racer... this show tat u r very fast on the road :cheer: next time saw u on the road must hide one corner liao :cheeky:

agree!!!

 

I also must hid

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by Sandman@Feb 22 2005, 01:05 AM

The old & shagged out Suspensions could be making the bike sit too much. I just find it odd why so many riders spend so much more on getting more power and improving the looks of the bike than improving the handling. Why dump your stock shock even before fully exploring the settings or attempting a servicing? Getting an aftermarket shock does not always instantly solve all your handling woes. Spend a bit of time read up on suspensions will go a long way.(understand how they work and which one suits your usage best) In the end, it's only wise to spend money on what you really need.

 

The geometry of the bike plays a big role in handling too. In other words, the distribution of the bikes' weight. (Where they push the weight) Dropping the fork may make your bike steer fast in a corner. But it may cause the bike to feel light behind. A balance of that and stability would be good.

 

Your linig play is another contributing factor. If you take a tighter line, you'll likely go lower. Hence often scrapping more. On the outter line, you'll have to go much faster to get lower to scrap anything. Common sense?

 

And of course You, the rider! Yes You! The throttle and brakes makes a lot of difference in the corner. (entrance, appex, exit) And the positionng of your body (torso, butt, arms, knees, feet) weight on which part of the bike. The rider makes up 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of the bike. And the seat Honda give you was designed for you to move your butt!

 

Nothing beats goods skills and a clear mind. It's time to brush up those skills. In my opinion, it's the cheapest and by far most effective performance mod is....

the Rider!

well said...........rider and handling are also the main concern for me.......cos I rookie.

 

power no pt to me rite now cos no skill, cant even effective harness the powerband of the bike yet.....

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by Non Stop Racing@Feb 22 2005, 03:59 AM

haha snakeman i like to see u scrap pegs somedays!! eugene , kata killer: u two got job lobang pls intro me okie.. broke ah! lolz

lobang where where I also want.......

[Shay]

Yea Eugene u are right.....

 

I would also admit that i may not be able to effectively utilize my powerband esp if ever i go track.

 

DId any of you here watch INITIAL D ?? Although its just a animation or cartoon to some, the stories teach and preach about the importance of obtaining good driving skills 1st, a powerful car later.

 

For those uninitiated;

The main character TAKUMI , drives a corolla hatchback 1.6L coupe made in 1986. Its horsepower is only 130HP at crank at the best (very little for cars), but he always wins all the races down winding mountain roads thru uncanny SKILLS, beating all the newer, more powerful and advance cars ( RX7, Skyline, EVO3, EVO4, EG6, SILVIA.....) The damn car doesnt have power steering, no ABS, no airbags, no power windows and sh*t. What it does have is a rear wheel drive system and an above average handling capabilities without any modern sensors or LSDs.

 

Kinda like our little rvf400 isint it? Its not FI, its got no underseat exhaust, no HESD, no smartass ECU, no radial mount brake discs, no trick digital speedo....what it does have is an above average handling quality too.

 

I'm not saying we should all be like TAKUMI and ride like a maniac down 99 turns but nevertheless, it is good to adopt his spirit. Do everything you can to improve the bike's handling. Then, do everything you can to explore the bike's limits.....only when you have surpass it, then look into the horsie department. That way...when other ppl upgrade in C.C of thier bikes with or without learning anything valueble, you spend time and maybe a little $$ upgrading in your skills.

 

Anyhoo...about scraping footpegs....majority impression is that it is cool, it is garang, it is 'on-the-edge'.....its NOT! sorry not in my book. cupping lower doesnt mean u get thru a corner any faster. Like Mel said...its all about lining. if a better rider comes along, he should be able to get thru the same corner with less lean angle but the correct braking point, body posture and line.

 

Amba...if you are really scrapin ur pegs on the streets EVERYDAY (omg!), pLease pay more attention to the way you ride. Frankly, scraping footpegs in a carpark is IMO,very dangerous and foolish thing to do. Kids may be walking around you know?

 

just my $2.50 worth.

[Xiao_Di]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 22 2005, 01:16 AM

Got... Someone going to install it soon... U guys, wait n see...

 

Wat abt ure signal light, does it consider?

only got signal light ma...

[Guest TachiTJRS]

Hi guys,

 

I am back after a long break with certain personal issues. (filbert, Shay and Sandman knows all this). Anyway, its interesting to see the development of things going on on the thread and yes, i know the long overdue Force V4 forum is still not out. Its mainly because I don't have internet at home anymore and it will be difficult to configure anything if I don't even have access right?

 

So until further notice, the topic remains here.

 

Just to add some notes to what is being discussed.

 

No matter what bike you ride, be it a Yamaha RX-K or the latest Fireblade 1000RR, remember that it is the rider that ultimately makes the bike go faster, smoother and handle better whether it be on the circuit or street, straight or corner.In essence, the best guide to know if you are doing well when the curves come is to see if you can lean the bike as little as possible while taking that same curve as fast as possible. This means going WITH the bike's centre of gravity in a turn and not against.

 

What this means is that you have to shift your body weight into an ideal position while doing other things at the same time. (Lean angle, point of turn, how much braking, what entry speed, when to roll on the throttle etc)

 

The bike manufacturer designs the motorcycle in such a way that under normal circumstances of riding, you should not be able to scrap the foot pegs under pretty normal circumstances of riding. So if you are doing this on a regular basis, it means you are not riding correctly, or rather you are actually going against the design of the bike. A word about aftermarket rearsets, they don help you go faster around corners because of raised ground clearence. If you cannot ultilise the available ground clearance then it makes no point to go higher. Unless you have a height problem, ie. too tall, which makes it uncomfortable.

[ambasnakeman]

first for filbert, i agree with what u said. the oxygen sensor is not exactly necessary. just adds another gauge on bike

[ambasnakeman]

2nd for ghostrider 17, i using standard pipe system. but laser slip on. throught hollow

[ambasnakeman]

i repairing my bike clutch next week. maybe we can arrange for a peaceful ride soon.

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by Xiao_Di@Feb 22 2005, 07:08 PM

only got signal light ma...

There R more to come boy.....

[Xiao_Di]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 22 2005, 10:10 PM

There R more to come boy.....

only left pipe n waving disc too bad dun have production liao maybe think of ohlin damper haha:cheeky: u think i kana toto 1st prize

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by Shay@Feb 22 2005, 06:12 PM

Yea Eugene u are right.....

 

I would also admit that i may not be able to effectively utilize my powerband esp if ever i go track.

 

DId any of you here watch INITIAL D ?? Although its just a animation or cartoon to some, the stories teach and preach about the importance of obtaining good driving skills 1st, a powerful car later.

 

For those uninitiated;

The main character TAKUMI , drives a corolla hatchback 1.6L coupe made in 1986. Its horsepower is only 130HP at crank at the best (very little for cars), but he always wins all the races down winding mountain roads thru uncanny SKILLS, beating all the newer, more powerful and advance cars ( RX7, Skyline, EVO3, EVO4, EG6, SILVIA.....) The damn car doesnt have power steering, no ABS, no airbags, no power windows and sh*t. What it does have is a rear wheel drive system and an above average handling capabilities without any modern sensors or LSDs.

 

Kinda like our little rvf400 isint it? Its not FI, its got no underseat exhaust, no HESD, no smartass ECU, no radial mount brake discs, no trick digital speedo....what it does have is an above average handling quality too.

 

I'm not saying we should all be like TAKUMI and ride like a maniac down 99 turns but nevertheless, it is good to adopt his spirit. Do everything you can to improve the bike's handling. Then, do everything you can to explore the bike's limits.....only when you have surpass it, then look into the horsie department. That way...when other ppl upgrade in C.C of thier bikes with or without learning anything valueble, you spend time and maybe a little $$ upgrading in your skills.

 

Anyhoo...about scraping footpegs....majority impression is that it is cool, it is garang, it is 'on-the-edge'.....its NOT! sorry not in my book. cupping lower doesnt mean u get thru a corner any faster. Like Mel said...its all about lining. if a better rider comes along, he should be able to get thru the same corner with less lean angle but the correct braking point, body posture and line.

 

Amba...if you are really scrapin ur pegs on the streets EVERYDAY (omg!), pLease pay more attention to the way you ride. Frankly, scraping footpegs in a carpark is IMO,very dangerous and foolish thing to do. Kids may be walking around you know?

 

just my $2.50 worth.

well spoken! my sentiments also......thats why me still class 2A not 2....but also becos I love RVF too much.

 

I am an avid fan of Initial D 2......sigh still waiting for stage 4 ep11&12....AE86

[eugene_kips]

Originally posted by TachiTJRS@Feb 22 2005, 08:04 PM

Hi guys,

 

I am back after a long break with certain personal issues. (filbert, Shay and Sandman knows all this). Anyway, its interesting to see the development of things going on on the thread and yes, i know the long overdue Force V4 forum is still not out. Its mainly because I don't have internet at home anymore and it will be difficult to configure anything if I don't even have access right?

 

So until further notice, the topic remains here.

 

Just to add some notes to what is being discussed.

 

No matter what bike you ride, be it a Yamaha RX-K or the latest Fireblade 1000RR, remember that it is the rider that ultimately makes the bike go faster, smoother and handle better whether it be on the circuit or street, straight or corner.In essence, the best guide to know if you are doing well when the curves come is to see if you can lean the bike as little as possible while taking that same curve as fast as possible. This means going WITH the bike's centre of gravity in a turn and not against.

 

What this means is that you have to shift your body weight into an ideal position while doing other things at the same time. (Lean angle, point of turn, how much braking, what entry speed, when to roll on the throttle etc)

 

The bike manufacturer designs the motorcycle in such a way that under normal circumstances of riding, you should not be able to scrap the foot pegs under pretty normal circumstances of riding. So if you are doing this on a regular basis, it means you are not riding correctly, or rather you are actually going against the design of the bike. A word about aftermarket rearsets, they don help you go faster around corners because of raised ground clearence. If you cannot ultilise the available ground clearance then it makes no point to go higher. Unless you have a height problem, ie. too tall, which makes it uncomfortable.

:thumb:

 

guess thats why kup kia can win our sgp big bike in pg....I heard pple say one not that I withness it yet......btw Tachi hope to meet up with you someday, heard lots of praises abt you and your bike from clownprince.

[Non Stop Racing]

mhh to maximize wad shay say we sud all go 99 bend n practise our cornering tekkuniku and try mount faber down hill special! lol

[GhostRider17]

Originally posted by eugene_kips@Feb 23 2005, 01:44 AM

well spoken! my sentiments also......thats why me still class 2A not 2....but also becos I love RVF too much.

 

I am an avid fan of Initial D 2......sigh still waiting for stage 4 ep11&12....AE86

i also waiting ep11&12 :lovestruck:

[GhostRider17]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@Feb 22 2005, 09:20 PM

2nd for ghostrider 17, i using standard pipe system. but laser slip on. throught hollow

laser is a illegal pipe