SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[SW9000]

On "paper" T-max has 40Hp whereby SW 600 has 49Hp.

T-max has a dry weight of 200kg...not sure about SW 600 but heard its about 220~230kg.

Shouldnt SW 600 produce more power & speed than T-max?

 

 

Hmm...

Tmax power at 32kw@6500rpm where as SW600 37kw@7500rpm.

Tmax torque at 47.6NM@4850rpm while SW600 50NM@6000rpm.

Thus Tmax requires lower rpm to reach similar power as SW600.

But hor... SW supposed to be 100cc more?

 

Anyway, SW600 is heavy and all the weight is at the rear.

Tmax weight distribution more centred (similar to street bike) that allows for better handling (that's what ppl says).

[SW9000]

If you want comfort ..... get Swinger400.

Forget about the 600 la. Been there done tat. ^_^

 

Actually you wanted to say... for more fun get the Wee? hehehe.

[SW9000]

Loois motor got one 2nd hand black SW400 for sale. * Not mine!!

FBC plate and low mileage.

Think will cost betw 10-11k bah.

[anodise57]

Actually you wanted to say... for more fun get the Wee? hehehe.

 

 

Hey how u know.. hahahahhaha

[Running_Man]

Hey guys. How much does a 2nd hand Silverwing cost now? Looking to upgrade. Thanks.

[Herman M. YOkingco]

I have 07 hyper vtec 3 and 07 sw 600 cc (both japan version). I feel very comfortable riding the sw. Speed i have done 180kmp with a little more to give. In my opinion, my swing offers a much better ride than my spec 3.

[anodise57]

In terms of comfort level. Swing is definitely better.

When u need to "eat wind" everyday. I guess Swinger win hands down.

Local (sgp) city traffic, 600 is a literal petrol addict >.<. should be good enough>

[whyzee]

In terms of comfort level. Swing is definitely better.

When u need to "eat wind" everyday. I guess Swinger win hands down.

Local (sgp) city traffic, 600 is a literal petrol addict >.<. should be good enough>

 

vstrom, tdm also good commute right?

 

but yeah, in terms of comfort, 2-up, swing definitely better. best commute bike due to comfort and storage space.

 

btw, i think I spotted scoobydoo towards expo.. SIM exams?

[scoobydoo]

btw, i think I spotted scoobydoo towards expo.. SIM exams?

not me... me already old n rusty liow, now go SIM exam sure 满江红

[SW9000]

not me... me already old n rusty liow, now go SIM exam sure 满江红

 

Red... because he nose bleed everyday watching mei mei.

[SW9000]

Outing:

 

Date: 27 May 2010

Day: Thursday

Time: 7pm till very very late

Location and Activity: TBC

 

1. Dinner then Movie then Dance?

2.

3.

 

Other suggestion boh?

[anodise57]

vstrom, tdm also good commute right?

 

but yeah, in terms of comfort, 2-up, swing definitely better. best commute bike due to comfort and storage space.

 

btw, i think I spotted scoobydoo towards expo.. SIM exams?

 

 

Swinger is auto & parallel twin vs Manual - Vtwin..

Diff la...... For me long distance + back problem.. Need sit upright leh... no choice The only thing i can hao lian is tank (22L) + FC (21km/L)

[oriental]

Hi guys, I face a few minor prob regarding my JDM Silverwing..The overdrive is not working..dun knw wat's the prob.Back suspension feels soft. Ever pillion my fren who weighs ard 75kg, a small uneven road and the whole back of the bike is like gog down like tat. Paiseh, dun reali knw hw to describe but juz tat the suspension is soft. Any way to change or stiffen it? Last prob is the "V" light sometimes light up after I crank the bike to start then go off. Wat's the prob? The bike dun reali feel stable when gog at 110km/hr and above. Used to ride a Transalp 400..doesn't feel tat way..maybe nothing to grip in between. Is it the bike or juz me? Will changing all the rollers, belting help? Does variator play a part too?

 

Sorry for the long post. Hope can get some advice frm seniors here.

[SW9000]

Hi guys, I face a few minor prob regarding my JDM Silverwing..The overdrive is not working..dun knw wat's the prob.Back suspension feels soft. Ever pillion my fren who weighs ard 75kg, a small uneven road and the whole back of the bike is like gog down like tat. Paiseh, dun reali knw hw to describe but juz tat the suspension is soft. Any way to change or stiffen it? Last prob is the "V" light sometimes light up after I crank the bike to start then go off. Wat's the prob? The bike dun reali feel stable when gog at 110km/hr and above. Used to ride a Transalp 400..doesn't feel tat way..maybe nothing to grip in between. Is it the bike or juz me? Will changing all the rollers, belting help? Does variator play a part too?

 

Go visit Kallang Cycle Ah Choong to harden the rear suspension.

He can also adjust the front suspension to make it more stable.

 

SW can safely cruise at 140km/h with no stability issue unless your steering cone, wheel bearings, tires etc got problems.

 

Get it check quick.

[oriental]

Thanx for the advice bro, they can chk my overdrive n "V" light oso rite?

[whyzee]

Thanx for the advice bro, they can chk my overdrive n "V" light oso rite?

 

just go there with a peace of mind man. ah choong is trusted by many here to do up their swing.

[scoobydoo]

me no senior but can share something about the SW... green

The overdrive is not working..dun knw wat's the prob.

better to get this checked by the mechs as overdrive mode is controlled by ECU and may be tricky.

 

Back suspension feels soft. Ever pillion my fren who weighs ard 75kg, a small uneven road and the whole back of the bike is like gog down like tat. Paiseh, dun reali knw hw to describe but juz tat the suspension is soft. Any way to change or stiffen it?

SW is known for its soft front n rear shocks, probably a design for more comfort. for small light-weight riders, the rear's softness is less felt.

 

a) first thing to check is your rear shocks' pre-load level settings; 1 is softest, 5 is hardest. baring rusts or dirt getting in the way, settings may be changed by bare hands (no tools required) holding and turning the pre-load assembly (turnable bottom section). if you intend to carry heavy pillion regularly, set to 5.

it is very important to ensure that settings are at same level for both shocks or handling safety will be compromised.

 

b) springs will weaken due to material fatigue and becomes softer over the years. this is when modification or replacement (stock or aftermarket) comes in.

. . b1) pre-load may be further increased by modifying the pre-load assembly; usually increasing the length by replacing the "ring" or using an add-on unit. this is the inexpensive mod which ah choong can do for you (as suggested by SW9000).

. . b2) if you're in the mood of splurging, can consider replacement... either to the stock (if you don't like stiff shocks) or aftermarkets like the hagon shocks (some may find them a little too stiff for comfort).

 

Last prob is the "V" light sometimes light up after I crank the bike to start then go off.

the V indicator is not a diagnostic sensory unit but a "distance based reminder". it is designed to light up every 24k kms, a reminder to owner that its time to change/service the V-belt transmission assembly. if your odometer is near/at the 24k kms intervals, then resetting the counter when v-light is on may be sufficient; procedure is listed in the owners' manual (or see the tech thread).

 

is this what you encounter?

if yes, change the batt and problem should go off.

the SW in this clip also had its v-light on then off during startup

 

The bike dun reali feel stable when gog at 110km/hr and above.

my suggestion is same as SW9000's, defective or too soft suspensions may also be a cause of the instability.

Will changing all the rollers, belting help? Does variator play a part too?

that's the transmission assembly, they affect engine-to-transmission performance (e.g. pickup, belt grip n acceleration, smooth riding, etc.) but unlikely on stability, unless the resulting vibration is at astonishing levels to shake to bike off its balance

[sant0s]

Hi swingers, just curious.. as u know there's 8 bar on the petrol indicator. Usually how much will u guys clock when yr indicator drop by 1 bar?

 

Also, any kind soul know whats the part number for YOM2007 SW400 Torque string?

 

 

Your time and reply is very much appreciated

[scoobydoo]

Hi swingers, just curious.. as u know there's 8 bar on the petrol indicator. Usually how much will u guys clock when yr indicator drop by 1 bar?

 

Also, any kind soul know whats the part number for YOM2007 SW400 Torque string?

 

 

Your time and reply is very much appreciated

please check out the SW 400/600 Tech Corner... many answers are inside

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113114

 

 

as for petrol indicator, my 1st bar usually goes off around 70~80+km, half mark around 170~190km, and blinker kicks in around 280+~300+km (best record was around 310km)... average FC around 25km/L.

riding pattern probably 90% highway, 10% city, no strong wrist take-offs, regular cruise speed on h/w about 90kph (5k rpm is a very fuel efficient level), bike aided by iridium sparkies, PA2, sometimes FP60 and a lightweight 62kg ass

[sant0s]

please check out the SW 400/600 Tech Corner... many answers are inside

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113114

 

 

as for petrol indicator, my 1st bar usually goes off around 70~80+km, half mark around 170~190km, and blinker kicks in around 280+~300+km (best record was around 310km)... average FC around 25km/L.

riding pattern probably 90% highway, 10% city, no strong wrist take-offs, regular cruise speed on h/w about 90kph (5k rpm is a very fuel efficient level), bike aided by iridium sparkies, PA2, sometimes FP60 and a lightweight 62kg ass

 

 

Hi chief, think the 1st link "Silverwing 600cc US 2004 model (FSC600D)" pdf has some error, cant seems to load it hence the post for help

 

Mine 1st bar today @ 84.1km , i tot my fuel float/sensor faulty lol:pray:

[SW9000]

Lets see. A gentle rider like me (90-100km/h) gets:

 

1st Bar - 95km

2nd Bar - 125km

3rd Bar - 155km

4th Bar - 195km

5th Bar - 225km

6th bar - 255km

7th Bar - 295km

 

Last 2 pumps:

19 May 2010 - 367km @14.6L = 25.24km/L

24 May 2010 - 370km @14.6L = 25.34km/L

[Fusionjaz]

Wah ****, my 1st bar can only hit 88km

Blinks at 274km( when I 1st took over can hit 288km )

 

Lets see. A gentle rider like me (90-100km/h) gets:

 

1st Bar - 95km

2nd Bar - 125km

3rd Bar - 155km

4th Bar - 195km

5th Bar - 225km

6th bar - 255km

7th Bar - 295km

 

Last 2 pumps:

19 May 2010 - 367km @14.6L = 25.24km/L

24 May 2010 - 370km @14.6L = 25.34km/L

Edited May 24, 2010 by Fusionjaz

[oriental]

me no senior but can share something about the SW... green

 

Thanx for the help scoobydoo..my situation is exactly the same as in the vid!!

[scoobydoo]

A gentle rider like me... Last 2 pumps:

19 May 2010 - 367km @14.6L = 25.24km/L

24 May 2010 - 370km @14.6L = 25.34km/L

gentle???

 

367km, 370km... try 400km leh

 

i've tried... confirm very shiok one

[sant0s]

Fwah! All the lao jiaos got very good FC!

Gonna read up on "wrist" mod liao! Or mayb my ass is too heavy @ 90kg