SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[kmkoon]

IUH24 also $12 or even less if u kaki of ah boy.

 

dun anyhow scare pp leh... u guessing only right?

which durability r u referring to... plug's durability?

some of us have used denso IUH24 for a few years and confirm can last >20k km easily. in fact, the plugs were still in good condition when i change them at 20k and 40k.

 

ya lo ya lo....

i guess all the denso plug not much different ba...

[firenace]

really?? so i get a good price la..

er... let fusionjaz tell u story on thursday...

[firenace]

Cheap and good......

 

i think that's the best choice worldwide. Even in europe they will highly recommend diablo too.

So dun think there's an issue ba

 

many of us are using diablo scoot... cheap n good at around $170+ for a pair (include installation n front balancing).

i've personally used 2 sets and intend to continue with this unless maybe going over to the "dark side"

 

my feel is that these tyres may be a little slippery when new but good grip returns once they are run in

oic. i din know its the 1 u guys using.

thx all for the info ^_^

[scoobydoo]

As a matter of fact, Platinum and Iridium are some of the worst metal conductors. The reason why Platinum and Iridium spark plugs are used is for longevity only. They can last up to 100,000 miles. If you are looking for longevity, they are for you. If you are looking for performance, choose silver.

peng yiu... copy-n-paste from nology webby ha

http://www.nology.com/silver.html

 

hanor hanor... totally agree that silver is the known best current/heat conductor than platinum or iridium and what knot. but how much are you willing to spend on the so called silver plugs?

if $$ and durability is not an issue... go for it.

 

if you think logically, the tips of these silver plugs are likely NOT made of pure silver... consider the properties of silver and you'll know the reasons are simple ^_^

 

pure silver is expensive, reason why its also used for ornaments. if you're an engineering or physics guy, you'ld know that although silver is the best conductor, it is not commonly used because of its material properties; pure silver is not suitable as electrodes in spark plugs unless mixed with others materials into an alloy... so what you're actually paying for is likely an alloy with some silver in its composition. how much or how little silver is inside are things we don't and won't get to know.

 

why not pure silver?

pure silver is soft (slightly harder than gold). try applying pressure on a pure silver ring with your fingers and it'll go out of shape; guess its not difficult to imaging what'll happen to a pure silver tip in the combustion chamber. another property of pure silver is it turns black when in contact with sulfur. we're gonna get dirty plugs even if the pure silver tip miraculously survives the beatings from "petrol explosions" in the combustion chambers.

Silver tarnishes black with a surface layer of acanthite (silver sulphide), especially when placed in proximity to sulphurous compounds.

guess what are the compositions of the hydrocarbon fuel we are currently using?

Gasoline can also contain other organic compounds such as organic ethers (deliberately added), plus small levels of contaminants, in particular sulfur compounds such as disulfides and thiophenes.

 

no one material is the best as all has their pluses and minuses. similarly, iridium plugs are certainly NOT the best, but it provides performance stability over longer usage; its denseness/hardness and high melting point properties allow the tips to stay in "shape" longer. in fact, the tips are also not made of pure iridium but an alloy composed primarily of Iridium with rhodium (for anti oxidation).

 

i still remember paying >$200 for a 1m long hifi interconnect cable during my siow hifi days in the early 90s; these rip off cables (i was a carrot those days) are still around and pp are willing to splurge just because they use silver in the cores. how much difference? hmmmm... worth the $$... hmmm

 

shallow pocket riders? use normal plugs for economy

some spares in pocket riders? upgrade to iridium plugs for improved performance

deep pocket riders? go for it mann... silver plugs to get every juice out from the engines

 

to each their own

Edited November 11, 2010 by scoobydoo

[Elton]

haha. ya lor.

I tried using brisk silver tip plugs for my car, feeling not too bad. 4 plugs cost me $120.

For audiophiles, of course cables does makes a difference haha. Looking at it you might have tried kimbercable before. I'm using them too for some of my systems.

[whyzee]

Hmmm, where u guys meeting today?

[scoobydoo]

Date: 11/11/2010

Place: Rail Mall

Time: 7pm onwards

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:422%20rail%20mall

 

For : Dinner, Kopi, TCSS, http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Surprise/surprised-012.gifcream

7.00pm: dinner (optional)

7.30pm: adjourn to "The Coffee Bean" aka Clubhouse

Edited November 11, 2010 by scoobydoo

[OldSkoolRider]

Date: 11/11/2010

Place: Rail Mall

Time: 7pm onwards

http://gothere.sg/maps#q:422%20rail%20mall

 

For : Dinner, Kopi, TCSS, http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Surprise/surprised-012.gifcream

7.00pm: dinner (optional)

7.30pm: adjourn to "The Coffee Bean" aka Clubhouse

 

Mind if i join you all this evening, but will be around 8:00 pm?

[hilfiger]

IUH24 is iridium plug?

[scoobydoo]

IUH24 is iridium plug?

yes... see this

http://www.globaldenso.com/en/products/aftermarket/plug/power/spec.html

 

and http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/113114-Silverwing-400cc-600cc-Tech-Corner?p=4793865&viewfull=1#post4793865

Honda Silver Wing FJS 400 (Euro) owner's manual indicated that we can use the following spark plugs:

__ Denso: U22FER-9, U24FER-9 (IUH-24 / 24D not stated but cross referenced)

__ NGK: CR7EH-9, CR8EH-9 (CR8EHIX-9 not stated but cross referenced)

e.g. IUH24 means 0.4mm diameter iridium tip, 10 diameter x 19mm reach (half thread) x 16.0mm hex, heat range 24. IUH24D is same but has no u-grove at incone1 ground electrode.

[SW9000]

3 bikes going up to Genting on 20 and 21 Jan 2011 (Thur & Fri, return on Sat).

Cost per room per night without breakfast is rm28 (approx SGD$11) at 1st World Hotel.

 

Those interested to join us please make own Hotel booking via genting website.

 

ehh... even if visa not approve... at most wasted $22 (2 nights), the price of 1L EO.

[whyzee]

how many rooms you all booked? 21 Jan room fully booked liao. nb...

[Atlantic 200]

Wrong post

Edited May 15, 2011 by Atlantic 200

[whyzee]

siighhh. when i tried at 10am, no more 21st already..

[Atlantic 200]

Wrong post

Edited May 15, 2011 by Atlantic 200

[whyzee]

u booking one night or 2 night? i book 20/1 to 22/1. cos saturday check out right?

[whyzee]

Funny. it works now. Just now it tell me 20 Jan no room available. anyway, I booked 20 Jan & 21 Jan. Check out on 22 Jan. 56 RM.. woohoo

[Fusionjaz]

May I know go to which web site to book the hotel room?

[Atlantic 200]

Wrong post

Edited May 15, 2011 by Atlantic 200

[Atlantic 200]

Wrong post

Edited May 15, 2011 by Atlantic 200

[Atlantic 200]

Funny. it works now. Just now it tell me 20 Jan no room available. anyway, I booked 20 Jan & 21 Jan. Check out on 22 Jan. 56 RM.. woohoo

 

oh... duplicate post

[hilfiger]

some of us have used denso IUH24 for a few years and confirm can last >20k km easily. in fact, the plugs were still in good condition when i change them at 20k and 40k.

 

The tech corner thread said Denso iridium plugs can last 50k km...so long ah? Typically, do u always change yr iridium plugs at 20k km intervals? I think at 50k km, the plugs should be past their optimal performance already rite?

[scoobydoo]

The tech corner thread said Denso iridium plugs can last 50k km...so long ah? Typically, do u always change yr iridium plugs at 20k km intervals? I think at 50k km, the plugs should be past their optimal performance already rite?

i'm pretty sure the plugs can perform till 50k km... the denso iridiums in my car is due for change only at 100k km

 

basically, my maintenance schedule is way earlier than the service periods recommended by the manufacturers. for e.g. i change...

... full sync eo & filter every 5k (even thou can easily last till 8k)

... transmission oil every 5 k

... clean/service transmission assembly every 10k

... 3-in-1 every 20k (even thou belt can last easily to 30+k)

... tyres every 20k (even though can last easily to 30+k)

... plugs every 20k (even though can last till 50k)

see the pattern? 5k, 10k, 20k, etc

 

[Elton]

Dear Wingers,

 

You are all invited to the following get together session.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/306792-Scooter-Get-Together-Outing-7th-Jan-2011

 

Hope to see you fun people there!

 

Cheers,

 

Elton

[hilfiger]

i'm pretty sure the plugs can perform till 50k km... the denso iridiums in my car is due for change only at 100k km

 

basically, my maintenance schedule is way earlier than the service periods recommended by the manufacturers. for e.g. i change...

... full sync eo & filter every 5k (even thou can easily last till 8k)

... transmission oil every 5 k

... clean/service transmission assembly every 10k

... 3-in-1 every 20k (even thou belt can last easily to 30+k)

... tyres every 20k (even though can last easily to 30+k)

... plugs every 20k (even though can last till 50k)

see the pattern? 5k, 10k, 20k, etc

 

 

Thanks for sharing yr detailed servicing routine....btw, my rear Pirelli diablo tyre can only last 14-15k km, yrs can last until 20k km? That's gd mileage....