SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[firenace]

I see. Where did you say you are staying? and your office is at **M there right?

cck, few blks away from chairman lor. work place changed le. y leh?

[firenace]

I see. Where did you say you are staying? and your office is at **M there right?

cck, few blks away from chairman lor. work place changed le. y leh?

[confusehaha]

Silverwing 400cc JDM/Euro model

 

Q: "differiante a euro model and a japan model, pls explain, how to c if a bike is a euro or jap"

 

A:

a. JDM got power valve at exhuast, EURO dont.

b. JDM got PARK/HAZARD light at right throttle casing, EURO dont. ( is it true? i didnt notice any on my jdm lei)

c. EURO got RIDING/PILOT light (just above the headlight), JDM dont.

d. JDM and EURO FI map is different.

e. JDM and EURO rollers weights are different.

f. EURO main parking stand is located more to the rear, making main stand parking easier. JDM is a pig.

[K.W]

Dear Scoobydoo and SW9000 and all, thanks for your sharing of experience. In the end, i chose the leave key in glove compartment and call tow truck to tow to bike shop and do as i had to work.

 

Not so bad la, total dmg $100. Thanks again.

[scoobydoo]

see my inputs in blue...

 

Anyone can help me out on the estimated price for the following service and modification?

as i be doing it on coming thursday.

 

sealing of engine oil case - $50 include RTV silicone sealant & labor

2L x Motul 7100 engine oil - recommend you use maxima extra 10w40 full syn eo, $21~$24 /bott include labor (get 3 bottles, use also for the final drive)

2 x DENSO iridium plugs (FJT) - IUH24 or IUH24D abt $13~$15 per liap from LAB, DIY change can liow

Transmission oil - use from 3rd bottle of eo

Honda oil filter - abt $18~$20 include labor

Steel Brake Hoses - personally, i wouldn't recommend

KNN Filter (where to get cheap?) - $85~$120, DIY can liow; there's a MO

Installation of hazard light and switch - abt $35~$45, include switch & labor

Headlight protector shield - abt $60+~$100, order from US/internet

Koso voltmeter - small digital meter will do, abt $30~$45, LAB also got for only $28

BMW soft grips - abt $23 from PM, then DIY or get shop to install

Transmission cleaning and check - labor about $35~$50

Lowering of fork - dunno, not recommended as it changes the dynamics of the bike

 

those who know, pls kindly help me to fill up the price, as i need to prepare the money on thursday!

thanks in advance people! appreciate!

Edited January 16, 2012 by scoobydoo

[confusehaha]

see my inputs in blue...

bro scoobydoo, thanks for ur info! btw where to get the knn filter? and do i need to send it for tuning of air ratio after installing knn? Edited January 16, 2012 by confusehaha

[scoobydoo]

Not so bad la, total dmg $100. Thanks again.

how come $100

 

local towing is usually abt $30~$40, the remaining were paid for?

a new honda spec battery for SW costs abt $120+~$150 (depending on YTZ12S or 14S), unless if you get the small capacity YTX9BS which costs abt $70+ (can fit SW).

[scoobydoo]

bro scoobydoo, thanks for ur info! btw where to get the knn filter?

go any of the recommended workshop we mentioned and they can order for you.

alternatively, buy from Mass Ordering thread...

M.O for K&N air filters

[E GREAT1]

Hi guys:) I almost done 1000km liao... so itz consider running in complete? LOL! Cos the honda service card state first change is 800km den follow by 4000km its lik ?____? hahaha But i change at 500km so now i reaching 1000km liao shuld i change to fully syn oil? or continue run in? n change to mineral oil still?

[scoobydoo]

almost 1000km, means almost complete... means ALMOST

kidding

 

if you're not those who whack the bike like no tomolo but ride smoothly within speed limits in sinkapor with occasional "overtaking manoeuvres", can end run-in and change to full synthetic eo liow

do follow the owners' manual recommended grade 10w40 eo, brand up to individual but recommend you try maxima extra 10w40, costs $21~$24 /bott including labor. many of us are using that for years and satisfied with it. however, i'm going to try amsoil 10w40 for the next change... just wanna try something different.

[E GREAT1]

LOL!! Scoobydoo don scare me lei.. hahaha cos i didnt get the owners manual:( yup i nt those type who whack lik crazy de:) But would lik to try its top speed:) Means now still nt recommend to try rite? cos only 1000km.. means i change to fully syn liao continue to run wif maintaining the speed till 4000km den can try top speed? hahahaha u recommend de i sure try!! thanks:)

[TitanicLexus]

 

Steel Brake Hoses - this need to be customized, you wun find ready stock can fit it properly, also need mechanic skill for install. Some of us have installed it, but you have to get use the brake, otherwise it will quite dangerous. Tat y Chairman is not recommended to you

Headlight protector shield - no ready stock in SIN, but chairman got one uncollected on hand

Lowering of fork -Try hyper pro spring if you have budget. Costs btw $280-$300 with installation, you can try Unique see got ready stock bo? Otherwise you can place order with Motoworld, waiting time btw 1-3mths, depend on shipment but you wun regret.

 

 

My input as above...

[SW9000]

cck, few blks away from chairman lor. work place changed le. y leh?

 

You got spare key...

[SW9000]

LOL!! Scoobydoo don scare me lei.. hahaha cos i didnt get the owners manual:( yup i nt those type who whack lik crazy de:) But would lik to try its top speed:) Means now still nt recommend to try rite? cos only 1000km.. means i change to fully syn liao continue to run wif maintaining the speed till 4000km den can try top speed? hahahaha u recommend de i sure try!! thanks:)

 

For all my new SW, I only felt the smoothness after 2500km +/- even with synthetic EO.

Top speed... do it progressively ahh. Too much vibration too early and you won't know what's gonna happen.

[Fusionjaz]

Anyone can help me out on the estimated price for the following service and modification?

as i be doing it on coming thursday.

 

sealing of engine oil case -

2L x Motul 7100 engine oil -

2 x DENSO iridium plugs (FJT) -

Transmission oil -

Honda oil filter -

Steel Brake Hoses -

KNN Filter (where to get cheap?) -

Installation of hazard light and switch -

Headlight protector shield -

Koso voltmeter -

BMW soft grips -

Transmission cleaning and check -

Lowering of fork -

 

those who know, pls kindly help me to fill up the price, as i need to prepare the money on thursday!

thanks in advance people! appreciate!

 

Standby 1k!!

[E GREAT1]

SW9000 so i shuld change to fully syn oil n continue run in speed ( Below 5k rpm ) till at least 2500km? hahhaa sori i too noob

[Atlantic 200]

Hmm... found a cousin... hehehe.

 

Got something to buy but timing at KL to short. So today continue + movie :-)

 

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk

[confusehaha]

How abt fork brace? The one which holds both of the fork firm while cornering which reduce the flex of the fork as well. Advise to be fitted on sw?

Btw is it possible to fit spec 2 fork seal guard on sw? i just got a pair, still unsure whether it fits on my SW. will bring down to ACM tmr to verify it

Edited January 17, 2012 by confusehaha

[Uncle]

the only scooter with a kick start i know is the sym gts 200 lol

 

Yamaha Nuovo Elegance also has kick starter

[SW9000]

How abt fork brace? The one which holds both of the fork firm while cornering which reduce the flex of the fork as well. Advise to be fitted on sw?

Btw is it possible to fit spec 2 fork seal guard on sw? i just got a pair, still unsure whether it fits on my SW. will bring down to ACM tmr to verify it

 

No have fork brace for SW.

But fork guard can be installed.

Edited January 17, 2012 by SW9000

[SW9000]

SW9000 so i shuld change to fully syn oil n continue run in speed ( Below 5k rpm ) till at least 2500km? hahhaa sori i too noob

 

Can change to synthetic EO earlier if you like. No hard rule on this.

My take is... continue with the cheap EO for your 1000km service then change to synthetic at 2000km or 2500km. After that, change as per normal after every 5k or as you wish.

Btw, 5k rpm running-in speed is for 1st 1000km only. After that can slowly increase (100/km/h, 120, 130...) to full throttle by 2500km and above.

** I only tried full at 5k+.

Edited January 17, 2012 by SW9000

[SW9000]

Me not joining TCSS at Club House this Thursday.

 

Will be in Genting from Thur to Sat.

[Fazli]

Roughly at which rpm does the FJS400 engage the clutch?

[SW9000]

Roughly at which rpm does the FJS400 engage the clutch?

 

average about 2.8k rpm.

[scoobydoo]

other than the "biting" rpm which may be changed by using clutch springs of different stiffness (stiffer springs require higher rpm), the throttle "response" may also be varied via:

* adjusting the amount of slack in the throttle cable (recommended to have a slight slack instead of fully taught)

* use of lighter/heavier rollers (24g vs 28g)

* adjust air screw to desired fuel-air ratio (vacuum level, balanced or staggered)

* use of capacitor based products such as PA2/auto, PA ignite, revtec, etc.

* change to 3rd party variator or/and clutch assembly

* engine oil of different weight/formula (for local riding, the most shiok i've tried so far is Liqui Moly)

* sparkplugs

* not forgetting... petrol & additives used

* many others... but some give marginal difference

 

liqui moly 10w50 (although w50, it feels very light), 10w40 is semi synth

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/decstorm/Liquimoly/1502_10w50.jpg

 

some clutch springs...

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/Products/Images/52527951-12ba-463e-a7ce-5db685b4fedc/Clutch+Springs+MALOSSI+for.jpg

http://www.ecossescooter.co.uk/images/CLUTCH SPRING 080.gif

Edited January 18, 2012 by scoobydoo