SBF Kymco Downtown 125/200/300/350i Cafe 2013

[parotae]

Today during normal riding, accelerating and maintain to 5000rpm it will drop to 4500rpm and goes back to 5000rpm again. Funny. At low speed around 60km/h.

[Advrider]

[/i]Originally posted by Advrider: "Beautiful scoot.... Sat on it at Motorsports feels very comfortable comparable to sport tourers....."

 

You seems to be into maxi scootering...

[synman]

Went down to the shop and the mechanic said that the new bike from the factory has too much grease at the gear area which cause the clutch to

slip.

 

So according to Kymco website, this is not the case although he did "clean up" for me. Feels almost the same.

 

But it was nice to know that my bike parts was only produce in July 2011.

 

Now at 250km mark. 550km more to go.

 

I realize when u try to maintain speed below 80km/h, your engine like not very stable. In fact at low rpm,

U feel like want to go or dun want to go.

 

I suspect this is due to the gear ratio and of course the clutch.

I did a few times hit 6000 to 7000 rpm and the bike just fly. (On small roads)

 

It felt shiok but had to remind myself that the bike is new.

 

After a "short ride" on the expressway at 80km/h(from town to West Coast), the bike feels much more "relax".

 

Still getting used to the character of this bike. Lol...

 

I'm sure ours don't have the "shadow clutch".

 

But I wonder can we install it into the bike once its out.

 

Rumour: Heard at Motorsport that the 400 DT is coming out next year. Or it could be an old rumour already?

Edited September 29, 2011 by synman

[synman]

Today during normal riding, accelerating and maintain to 5000rpm it will drop to 4500rpm and goes back to 5000rpm again. Funny. At low speed around 60km/h.

 

Like I was mentioning on the gear ratio thing, that seems to be the rpm that your engine will be like going up and down.

In fact around 60 to 70.

[synman]

I am using FUCH 10W-40. Motorsports dun have Maxima nor much choices of engine oil and I prefer Maxima.

The filter should be $15, I changed thrice already.

 

Do you guys get slight wobbling on handlebars after closing throttle and rolling on idle? Only at times. Around 50-60km/hr

 

Was thinking of changing to a slightly heavier balancer. Probably later when I feel more comfortable with the bike.

 

I actually like the Motul 300V but very expensive now at $30 per bot.

 

Anyone change to Iridium plug yet? How it feels? Planning to change mine at the 800km mark.

[paithorn]

I am interested in a balancer too for my DT.

[parotae]

Went down to the shop and the mechanic said that the new bike from the factory has too much grease at the gear area which cause the clutch to

slip.

 

So according to Kymco website, this is not the case although he did "clean up" for me. Feels almost the same.

 

But it was nice to know that my bike parts was only produce in July 2011.

 

Now at 250km mark. 550km more to go.

 

I realize when u try to maintain speed below 80km/h, your engine like not very stable. In fact at low rpm,

U feel like want to go or dun want to go.

 

I suspect this is due to the gear ratio and of course the clutch.

I did a few times hit 6000 to 7000 rpm and the bike just fly. (On small roads)

 

It felt shiok but had to remind myself that the bike is new.

 

After a "short ride" on the expressway at 80km/h(from town to West Coast), the bike feels much more "relax".

 

Still getting used to the character of this bike. Lol...

 

I'm sure ours don't have the "shadow clutch".

 

But I wonder can we install it into the bike once its out.

 

Rumour: Heard at Motorsport that the 400 DT is coming out next year. Or it could be an old rumour already?

 

Too much grease at the gear - wah that's bad.

Hope he took out the bell and sand it and the clutch pad too.

 

If you feel the same after cleaning the clutch it's because the vibration is an issue or rather the chracter of DT ha ha

I've read one good way of making these vibration gone or almost gone is by installing the MALOSSI variator. It seems it's so good the user all rave about it, good pick up all the way to 120km/h and max at the same top speed 140km/h and the mid range pick up is fantastic.

Although it's good i might not install it because it uses round roller. I have no experience with Malossi variator but the rollers. Back then i was riding runner SP Malossi roller is the same as any other rollers it will wear and have flat spot on roller. Maybe it's the Gilera variator that causes the flat spot i don't know. Maybe nowadays variator are better? Italian Gilera runner that i was riding uses TGB variator ha ha. TGB is a scooter brand of taiwan (Taiwan Golden Bee).

 

I have no issue riding at low speed at 40km/h to 60km/h during warm up. Even sometimes just feel so comfortable didn't realise i was going at only 50km/h. No funny issue at all, at least i didn't notice

 

I did a google searh on SK60AE and there's a parts list .pdf for download. When downloading it will show SK60AA but is infact SK60AE after opening the pdf.

DT parts are indicated by LEA7 (Downtown/Nikita code) unless it is reusing other parts which will carry the parts number of the model itself.

If you go to the transmission parts section you will see the variator and the rear clutch is of the shadow part model LGE5 (Shadow code)

Like you said, we felt as though it's not using the shadow parts as it still vibrates ha ha. Just imagine if ours did have the latest shadow parts, that means the original parts(LEA7)vibration will be worst

 

Now we can only wait to see if ours is using the shadow parts. if not, yes it can be fitted with no problems. Pick up will be better and the vibration slightly lesser. Malossi variator is the way to go. Not sure about the torque spring though? Don't know must change together or not, though it comes as a set, but the taiwan site didn't mention about torque spring. Maybe common sense is to change as a set?

 

DT400? didn't hear anything. If Motorsport says it then most likely there will be. Kymco 400 now is the ATV only 4 wheels. I read that rumour has it that Downtown was created to beat the SYM Citycom 300i. So now with the SYM Maxsym400i you can bet that kymco will be creating a 400 version for the european market to beat SYM. So we can expect a more robust 400 then the sym hopefully. Guess it'll be another 2-3years wah so exciting. But then again, there's xciting 500....hmm.....

 

22110 22110-LGE5-E00 FACE COMP MOVABLE DRIVE FACE COMP MOVABLE DRIVE (Variator)

2301A 2301A-LGE5-E00 PULLEY SUB ASSY PULLEY SUB. ASSY (Torque and clutch Assembly)

But the Bell is using the original

22100 22100-LEA7-E00 OUTER COMP CLUTCH OUTER COMP CLUTCH

Edited September 29, 2011 by parotae

[parotae]

Was thinking of changing to a slightly heavier balancer. Probably later when I feel more comfortable with the bike.

 

I actually like the Motul 300V but very expensive now at $30 per bot.

 

Anyone change to Iridium plug yet? How it feels? Planning to change mine at the 800km mark.

 

-Do update us with your new balancer if you decide to purchase 1

 

-IMO Motul is only recommended if you run it hard like going up to malaysia/thailand. Why i say this is because I THINK at the back of the bottle it says for ultimate protection during racing. And to me racing oil I THINK must change after every race. Even web sites says it is a very short drain interval oil. Silverwing thread mention that the change is only 3000km.

 

Still pending my CR7EIX change. Don't think you can feel any difference, only the engine can ha ha. It's just uses less power to make the same spark, longer change interval ( ha ha i don't even know when to change, please somebody help me) I only change when i get hard starting or don't remeber which year i last change

 

Was at autobac

Mobil 5W50 per can (the 1 liter kind) WOW! $48/tincan

[synman]

When I uses the Motul 300V, I usually change only after 5000km.

 

Personally I feel that there is some running in of the parts involve on our DT300 as they are very new.

 

Oh, when the mechanic open the clutch system, I think I recall seeing LGE5.

Well, he did sand down and make the whole thing clean before installing it back.

There was really quite a lot of grease that he took out.

Probably at 800km will ask them to clean the clutch area again.

 

It actually felt better now, but not like it went away. Like from a bad cough to a mild cough. Lol.

 

Yes before 60km/h, the bike's rpm doesn't variate that big and is unnoticeable. Only at the 60 to 80 range.

 

At times when moving slowly, when the whole bike was smooth, I felt that was how the bike was suppose to be in the 1st place.

 

I remembered this vibration thing happened when I install a new clutch/bell system on my Piaggio X9

years ago. (My 1st scooter) Then they took out the bell and sand it down or something and after that

it was a really smooth ride. Anyway, not sure whether is it the same problem.

 

Planning to change to the simota air filter at 800km too.

Edited September 30, 2011 by synman

[parotae]

Planning to change to the simota air filter at 800km too.

 

Wah, must modified leh. It's serviceable but don't know for how many times or what is the lifespan.

[Resilience]

I find scooter easiest to handle and comfortable.

My second bike is a scooter - Honda Forza 250 - not a maxi though ....

U r riding a scooter, bro ?

 

You seems to be into maxi scootering...

[Advrider]

I find scooter easiest to handle and comfortable.

My second bike is a scooter - Honda Forza 250 - not a maxi though ....

U r riding a scooter, bro ?

 

Yes but like you not a maxi.....

[ggc9898]

hi bro, can i find out from you wat is the FC and the insurance cost for your DT125 ?

 

 

 

 

thanks in advance

[ggc9898]

http://thebikesclub.com/other-motorbikes/kymco-2012-range-the-new-eicma/

[parotae]

hi bro, can i find out from you wat is the FC and the insurance cost for your DT125 ?

thanks in advance

 

Hi, DT125 owners please help ggc9898 regarding your FC and Insurance

As for me DT300 fuel consumption should be in the 28-30km/l range and insurance i don't know as i did not check, just buy as package only

[parotae]

hi bro, can i find out from you wat is the FC and the insurance cost for your DT125 ?

thanks in advance

 

Hi, DT125 owners please help ggc9898 regarding your FC and Insurance

As for me DT300 fuel consumption should be in the 28-30km/l range and insurance i don't know as i did not check, just buy as package only

[parotae]

http://thebikesclub.com/other-motorbikes/kymco-2012-range-the-new-eicma/

 

O.K will be looking out for this one in 2012. Aiyah, don't know good or bad timing? 2012 Xciting 400, just got my DT3 ha ha.

 

Check out Kymco G5 - seems good especially in the engine vibration test

Don't know if Kymco has incorporated this technology it into all their scooters?

[ggc9898]

wooo. the same test was done on the CB750 in the olden days. to compared between the ang moh bikes and the CB750.

this is a real plus point if you ride for far distances as the vibration really numb the ass. my honda tiger 200 is also a vibrator. ha ha

[ggc9898]

bro DT 300 is a good scooter. important is be happy

[cstay66]

30km/l.

 

it does not matter how the way you ride it. it gives a constant fc of 30km/l.

 

 

hi bro, can i find out from you wat is the FC and the insurance cost for your DT125 ?

 

 

 

 

thanks in advance

[ggc9898]

thank you for the info

[synman]

Update!

 

Now at about 420km mileage.

 

For the past 2 days, the clutch issue seems to have gone away.

 

I have been going on the expressway most of the time now. Cept that

I will maintain speed around 70 to 80km/h, periodically hitting 90 and go back down to

70/80 again.

 

The variation of the RPM is not so obvious now cept after the bike just warm up and you

try to push the RPM to about 6000.

 

When it is normal, it is actually quite a pleasant ride.

 

Update again end of the week on whether did the clutch issue came back or gone for good...

 

Take care in the meantime.

[parotae]

Update!

 

Now at about 420km mileage.

 

For the past 2 days, the clutch issue seems to have gone away.

 

I have been going on the expressway most of the time now. Cept that

I will maintain speed around 70 to 80km/h, periodically hitting 90 and go back down to

70/80 again.

 

The variation of the RPM is not so obvious now cept after the bike just warm up and you

try to push the RPM to about 6000.

 

When it is normal, it is actually quite a pleasant ride.

 

Update again end of the week on whether did the clutch issue came back or gone for good...

 

Take care in the meantime.

 

Mine is at 530km, good to know that you are getting a better ride already. That also mean that my clucth maybe full of grease and that's not good. It may cause uneven wear on the bell and cause vibration forever. Clutch pads will absorb all the grease and make it more slippery thus less friction. May have to send for operation soon

[parotae]

wooo. the same test was done on the CB750 in the olden days. to compared between the ang moh bikes and the CB750.

this is a real plus point if you ride for far distances as the vibration really numb the ass. my honda tiger 200 is also a vibrator. ha ha

 

LOL! Vibrator, the ladies might find it a turn on no?

[ggc9898]

ha ha, i think they won't like it.