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haha noted.

 

otherwise do the CF in a well ventilated area. a fan maybe ?

 

Negative.

 

The toxic fumes will be dispersed into the surrounding environment, dispersed faster with the fan blowing.

 

Then those around you will be breathing in these toxic fumes. With due respect, let's be responsible to those around us and also be responsible to Mother Earth. :)

 

Also, one may be charged by NEA for releasing toxic fumes into the environment.

 

I am not sure how the bike shops (if any) does such CF stuffs.

 

The best practice is to do it is inside a fume hood, with the user doning proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) of respirator with cartridge on each side of the respirator (remember to shave away the beard, as advised by Mr pinetree :angel: ), which has the proper kind of filters above the fume hood to absorb such toxic fumes to prevent such toxic fumes from escaping into the environment. The hood above your stove in the kitchen will NOT work, so please do not try to use that.

 

But then again, except for research institutes and manufacturing plants, I doubt there is any person who install such a fume hood in the house.

 

hmmm.. Maybe those with a money plantation at home will have the capability to install one at home... lolz... :cheeky:

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

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Negative.

 

The toxic fumes will be dispersed into the surrounding environment, dispersed faster with the fan blowing.

 

Then those around you will be breathing in these toxic fumes. With due respect, let's be responsible to those around us and also be responsible to Mother Earth. :)

 

Also, one may be charged by NEA for releasing toxic fumes into the environment.

 

I am not sure how the bike shops (if any) does such CF stuffs.

 

The best practice is to do it is inside a fume hood, with the user doning proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) of respirator with cartridge on each side of the respirator (remember to shave away the beard, as advised by Mr pinetree :angel: ), which has the proper kind of filters above the fume hood to absorb such toxic fumes to prevent such toxic fumes from escaping into the environment. The hood above your stove in the kitchen will NOT work, so please do not try to use that.

 

But then again, except for research institutes and manufacturing plants, I doubt there is any person who install such a fume hood in the house.

 

hmmm.. Maybe those with a money plantation at home will have the capability to install one at home... lolz... :cheeky:

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

 

this piece of advice is well worth more than a few hundred k (or at least how much insurance the affected personel is gonna get)... :thumb:

There's no replacement for displacement except for a blower

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Don't mean to curse anyone here.

 

But that is provided that whoever the person is, he or she is still alive to "enjoy" this few hundred Ks...

 

If not, from the EHS (Environmental Health & Safety) point of view, don't think it is worth it.

 

I may be wrong in my comments. Please don't flame me...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

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Honda VFR800 ABS, FBB 404 J (31/05/2008 - 15/08/2009)

ADIVA AD 200, FBD 36 C (15/08/2009 - 13/05/2010, 1430hrs)

Yamaha FZ6N, FBA 7274 B (13/05/2010, 1430hrs - 03/05/2016, 1840hrs)

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Negative.

 

The toxic fumes will be dispersed into the surrounding environment, dispersed faster with the fan blowing.

 

Then those around you will be breathing in these toxic fumes. With due respect, let's be responsible to those around us and also be responsible to Mother Earth. :)

 

Also, one may be charged by NEA for releasing toxic fumes into the environment.

 

I am not sure how the bike shops (if any) does such CF stuffs.

 

The best practice is to do it is inside a fume hood, with the user doning proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) of respirator with cartridge on each side of the respirator (remember to shave away the beard, as advised by Mr pinetree :angel: ), which has the proper kind of filters above the fume hood to absorb such toxic fumes to prevent such toxic fumes from escaping into the environment. The hood above your stove in the kitchen will NOT work, so please do not try to use that.

 

But then again, except for research institutes and manufacturing plants, I doubt there is any person who install such a fume hood in the house.

 

hmmm.. Maybe those with a money plantation at home will have the capability to install one at home... lolz... :cheeky:

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

 

actually wat is hazardous??

the epoxy resin or the CF ??

 

from what is see in the MSDS..

 

Epoxy

http://www.systemthree.com/msds/MSDS_SystemThree_Resin.pdf

 

CF

http://www.basf-cc.co.uk/en/Datasheets/C/Documents/Carbon%20Fibre%20msds.pdf

 

both are not classified as toxic but epoxy could be flammable during mix.

 

thanks

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Don't mean to curse anyone here.

 

But that is provided that whoever the person is, he or she is still alive to "enjoy" this few hundred Ks...

 

If not, from the EHS (Environmental Health & Safety) point of view, don't think it is worth it.

 

I may be wrong in my comments. Please don't flame me...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

 

not cursing not cursing.

 

i am in this line also but just nv expose to this type of chemical never know abt it.

 

:thumb:

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Posted
Don't mean to curse anyone here.

 

But that is provided that whoever the person is, he or she is still alive to "enjoy" this few hundred Ks...

 

If not, from the EHS (Environmental Health & Safety) point of view, don't think it is worth it.

 

I may be wrong in my comments. Please don't flame me...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth... :)

 

yo... u buy new bike ah??

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Posted (edited)
:fyi: the resin's fumes are carcinogenic... :goodluck: if you inhale it during the process...

 

actually wat is hazardous??

the epoxy resin or the CF ??

 

from what is see in the MSDS..

 

Epoxy

http://www.systemthree.com/msds/MSDS_SystemThree_Resin.pdf

 

CF

http://www.basf-cc.co.uk/en/Datasheets/C/Documents/Carbon%20Fibre%20msds.pdf

 

both are not classified as toxic but epoxy could be flammable during mix.

 

thanks

 

As advised by Mr kaieiru before, the resin's fumes are carcinogenic.

 

For such little or no odor (as stated in the MSDS) fumes, we may not see the cancerous effect now, but only a few years later.

 

And if there are naked flames during the mixing of the epoxy and it catches fire, there may be more toxic fumes released.

 

However, I may be wrong again...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth.

 

Mr NormalAspirated, Mr Nok97, please don't flame me if I am wrong... :)

 

QS : I will send an invoice to you later, for the EHS consultation. :cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

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Honda VFR800 ABS, FBB 404 J (31/05/2008 - 15/08/2009)

ADIVA AD 200, FBD 36 C (15/08/2009 - 13/05/2010, 1430hrs)

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Posted
yo... u buy new bike ah??

 

I poor man, how to buy new bike?? :cry:

 

I want to downgrade, push in to change for a smaller ride and no need to pay monthly instalments, but Mr "A" refused to "eat back", die die want me to take another ride for another year...

 

So downgrade to a "little lamb" for lower monthly for the next one year... :(

Honda Phantom TA200, FV5349A (19/04/2005 - 28/06/2006)

Honda Super 4 Vtec 1, FS6537H (28/06/2006 - 13/02/2007)

Yamaha FJR1300 ABS, FBB661H (13/02/2007 - 31/05/2008)

Honda VFR800 ABS, FBB 404 J (31/05/2008 - 15/08/2009)

ADIVA AD 200, FBD 36 C (15/08/2009 - 13/05/2010, 1430hrs)

Yamaha FZ6N, FBA 7274 B (13/05/2010, 1430hrs - 03/05/2016, 1840hrs)

Yamaha FZ8, FBF 61*9 T (07/05/2016, 1130hrs - )

Posted
I poor man, how to buy new bike?? :cry:

 

I want to downgrade, push in to change for a smaller ride and no need to pay monthly instalments, but Mr "A" refused to "eat back", die die want me to take another ride for another year...

 

So downgrade to a "little lamb" for lower monthly for the next one year... :(

 

buy your needs... dont buy things you want..:thumb:

Posted
As advised by Mr kaieiru before, the resin's fumes are carcinogenic.

 

For such little or no odor (as stated in the MSDS) fumes, we may not see the cancerous effect now, but only a few years later.

 

And if there are naked flames during the mixing of the epoxy and it catches fire, there may be more toxic fumes released.

 

However, I may be wrong again...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth.

 

Mr NormalAspirated, Mr Nok97, please don't flame me if I am wrong... :)

 

QS : I will send an invoice to you later, for the EHS consultation. :cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

 

 

newbie like me. how to flame you wor... anyway i dont like to flame. i straight go burn ur house down.:p

Posted (edited)
As advised by Mr kaieiru before, the resin's fumes are carcinogenic.

 

For such little or no odor (as stated in the MSDS) fumes, we may not see the cancerous effect now, but only a few years later.

 

And if there are naked flames during the mixing of the epoxy and it catches fire, there may be more toxic fumes released.

 

However, I may be wrong again...

 

Just my 0.0000000000000000000000001 cents worth.

 

Mr NormalAspirated, Mr Nok97, please don't flame me if I am wrong... :)

 

QS : I will send an invoice to you later, for the EHS consultation. :cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

 

noted. :angel:

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Posted
so u got a second hand smaller bike? :faint:

 

Other ppl not rich like u wan lei Raymond gor gor :cheeky: :cheeky:

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yun leong ngo cheh yat sam pat kei fung chung ngoi chi yau

yau wui pat yau yat tin wui tit tow

Posted
lolz.. me poor man....:cry:

 

Early mning juz go to raymond gor gor house lor.. got money plant lei :angel:

 

no $$ to buy small bike.. everyday take bicycle to work.. very tired..:p

 

yuh yuh :faint: :faint:

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yun leong ngo cheh yat sam pat kei fung chung ngoi chi yau

yau wui pat yau yat tin wui tit tow

Posted (edited)
Carcinogenic

 

almost every thing is carcinogenic.

eg bbq chicken wings. can food preservative. moth balls etc..

anything that can produce free radicals. including excercising or even breathing will produce free radicals.

every chemical that has a benzene ring. is carcinogenic as well

go chew on that.... :cry:

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Posted
Early mning juz go to raymond gor gor house lor.. got money plant lei :angel:

 

 

 

yuh yuh :faint: :faint:

 

tell u liao no money plant onli got money plantation

but even that is not enuff for me to buy my dream bike

sparks 1350 with brocks exhaust... :angel:

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Posted

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/Hayaboosta/DSC02821.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/Hayaboosta/DSC02822.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/Hayaboosta/DSC02824.jpg

 

:faint:

There's no replacement for displacement except for a blower

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Posted
almost every thing is carcinogenic.

eg bbq chicken wings. can food preservative. moth balls etc..

anything that can produce free radicals. including excercising or even breathing will produce free radicals.

every chemical that has a benzene ring. is carcinogenic as well

go chew on that.... :cry:

 

Mr pinetree is right. Must listen to and believe him.

 

He is the scientist. :thumb: :)

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Honda VFR800 ABS, FBB 404 J (31/05/2008 - 15/08/2009)

ADIVA AD 200, FBD 36 C (15/08/2009 - 13/05/2010, 1430hrs)

Yamaha FZ6N, FBA 7274 B (13/05/2010, 1430hrs - 03/05/2016, 1840hrs)

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