Differences between CBR400 Models

[Pluvius]

I noticed quite a few Honda CBR400 Models for sale in this forum. There is the Fireblade, Hurricane and R model and N model I am quite interested since last time.

 

May I know what are the differences between these models in regards to performance? And are the spar parts easy or difficult to find since this is an old bike?

 

I have mechanics telling me that CBR400 just like the older models of Super 4 CB400 are problem bikes.Is this true?

 

If I recalled him correctly about the CBR400, something about the float?????? He speak too fast, cant catch ball. Maybe I was imagining him saying the word "float" cos I was thinking about A&W root beer ice cream float in such a hot area.

 

Besides these 2 bike, Piaggio scooter X9 EVO 200 CC has been downplayed as a problem bike too in regards to the belt.

 

Any can comment on what I heard from mechanics?

Edited May 6, 2010 by Pluvius

[hachi]

I guess he meant the floats inside the carbs...Cos it can be quite tricky to find new ones as CBR4 are more than 10 years old and out of production...

These more than 10 years old bike and sport bike owners usually are not forgiving lots....So the tear and wear could be quite substantial in the bike itself....

For me I wont think about it....

Might be a lemon in disguise...

[Pluvius]

Yo, thank you for replying.

 

Yes I think you got it right. It's coming back now.

 

Besides the float anything else? I noticed in all the selling advertisements in this forum, all the owners always say they change gasket, rectifier and many parts. And I noticed all change the same parts.

 

Haaa, what do u mean by "lemon in disguise?" Don't catch your pun, but its catchy though.

 

But I do catch your overall message about not considering to buy a 2nd hand CBR400.

My suzuki RG150 no more spar parts in the world I think. Guan Hoe don't have, Jalan Lembu don't have. Stopped production in Thailand since 2000. Japan Suzuki don't produce this bike either so cannot order from Japan. Thus, I don't want to experience the same problem with CBR400.

 

But still curious whats the difference between Fireblade (babyblade), hurricane, N model in regards to performance.

[Pluvius]

I think I am getting the lemon in disguise pun. Squeeze money out from wallet.

[rocklobster]

lemon = a automobile (car/bike) that may look good on the outside but is crap on the inside....

 

you can pay a lot for a lemon, or very little for a lemon... bottom line is something is wrong with the bike and you are paying for it without knowing....

[bntyl]

lol still got L model.

i am not too sure as well but i think it has got to do with their exhaust pipe headers. i see some people on forum selling cbr hurricane header or cbr L model header.

could some experienced rider enlighten us both?

[pistonpiang]

riding a L model actually right now. also had e same issue before about the difference of all e listed models. so what i did was to look it up through wikipedia. all e information can be found there. hope it enlightens u guys. =)

[MrIce]

cbr400 J and K = hurricane

cbr400 L N R = fireblade

 

i think J or K is the fastest

 

L model got no powercut

N and R model got powercut but can be remove

 

R model is the newest among all the fireblade

 

people change to hurricane or L model header because the header got better air flow

[rhema83]

The age of the bike goes according to the alphabet.

 

It is not true that J / K / L models are faster than the N / R models. It largely depends on the tuning. Removing the power cut only serves to increase the top speed, but it is meaningless 95% of the time.

 

If you think about it, Honda would have made improvements to the chassis, engine, suspension, etc over the years. In fact, the newest R model has cartridge forks, which are better than the older spring damper forks. The rear suspension didn't change much but you can always swap in a CBR600F3 one. Also, don't fall into the trap of getting a larger or smaller profile rear tyre. The original 150 size handles the best.

 

If you want more power, you can swap in a larger diameter L model (or earlier) header and change the exhaust to free up the exhaust flow. At the same time, you can change the fuel jets and air filter. Professional tuning is a must.

 

There is no such thing as a "problematic bike". There are only poorly-maintained bikes. (Attached a pic of my R model ex-track-bike.)

[AkalaPovic]

The age of the bike goes according to the alphabet.

 

It is not true that J / K / L models are faster than the N / R models. It largely depends on the tuning. Removing the power cut only serves to increase the top speed, but it is meaningless 95% of the time.

 

If you think about it, Honda would have made improvements to the chassis, engine, suspension, etc over the years. In fact, the newest R model has cartridge forks, which are better than the older spring damper forks. The rear suspension didn't change much but you can always swap in a CBR600F3 one. Also, don't fall into the trap of getting a larger or smaller profile rear tyre. The original 150 size handles the best.

 

If you want more power, you can swap in a larger diameter L model (or earlier) header and change the exhaust to free up the exhaust flow. At the same time, you can change the fuel jets and air filter. Professional tuning is a must.

 

There is no such thing as a "problematic bike". There are only poorly-maintained bikes. (Attached a pic of my R model ex-track-bike.)

 

Agreed lol.. wanna charge u fee for using my bike picture!! =P

[Junatic]

Hey ppl.. wanna noe the difference between L and N model? cuz they year of manufacture is juz a yr apart.. so wads the different between the two model? can some guide me on this?

[mild_slevin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBR400

 

small introduction on CBR400... seems like Fireblade receive the most update

[agathodaimon]

Originally Posted by rhema83

The age of the bike goes according to the alphabet.

 

It is not true that J / K / L models are faster than the N / R models. It largely depends on the tuning. Removing the power cut only serves to increase the top speed, but it is meaningless 95% of the time.

 

If you think about it, Honda would have made improvements to the chassis, engine, suspension, etc over the years. In fact, the newest R model has cartridge forks, which are better than the older spring damper forks. The rear suspension didn't change much but you can always swap in a CBR600F3 one. Also, don't fall into the trap of getting a larger or smaller profile rear tyre. The original 150 size handles the best.

 

If you want more power, you can swap in a larger diameter L model (or earlier) header and change the exhaust to free up the exhaust flow. At the same time, you can change the fuel jets and air filter. Professional tuning is a must.

 

There is no such thing as a "problematic bike". There are only poorly-maintained bikes. (Attached a pic of my R model ex-track-bike.)

 

 

I would agree strongly to that post. And I'm an owner of my proud CBR 400 L model for 8 yrs till now. And yes even with the L model i still wanna speed so i mod a few here and there internally and it still work fine. All the just need is to pamper that lady of yours. Goin to professional tuning helps too. And a reminder never neglect ur bike.

[guangwei]

There is no such thing as a "problematic bike". There are only poorly-maintained bikes. (Attached a pic of my R model ex-track-bike.)

 

However CBR4 being 15years+ old bike or older can't avoid having changed 4-5 owners at least in its lifetime.

It just take 1 black sheep among the few to screw up the entire bike. So having said that, its really all down to luck eventually and if you took up that poorly-maintained bikes that are actually quite many among the remaining cbr, then your wallet gonna have 1 hella big hole to feed the bike.

Edited May 27, 2013 by guangwei

[guangwei]

Originally Posted by rhema83

The age of the bike goes according to the alphabet.

 

It is not true that J / K / L models are faster than the N / R models. It largely depends on the tuning. Removing the power cut only serves to increase the top speed, but it is meaningless 95% of the time.

 

If you think about it, Honda would have made improvements to the chassis, engine, suspension, etc over the years. In fact, the newest R model has cartridge forks, which are better than the older spring damper forks. The rear suspension didn't change much but you can always swap in a CBR600F3 one. Also, don't fall into the trap of getting a larger or smaller profile rear tyre. The original 150 size handles the best.

 

If you want more power, you can swap in a larger diameter L model (or earlier) header and change the exhaust to free up the exhaust flow. At the same time, you can change the fuel jets and air filter. Professional tuning is a must.

 

There is no such thing as a "problematic bike". There are only poorly-maintained bikes. (Attached a pic of my R model ex-track-bike.)

 

 

I would agree strongly to that post. And I'm an owner of my proud CBR 400 L model for 8 yrs till now. And yes even with the L model i still wanna speed so i mod a few here and there internally and it still work fine. All the just need is to pamper that lady of yours. Goin to professional tuning helps too. And a reminder never neglect ur bike.

 

 

Can have more description what are the difference, cartridge forks and older spring damper forks have?

[kawarides]

Hurricane - Full power all wider diameter exhuast

L model - Full power whole exhaust larger diameter

N model - Front header same as L model but after midpipe become smaller

R model - whole exhaust pipe smaller

 

Hurricane & L model got better pickup and roll on torque

N model somewhere in between

R model is the slowest (my friend R model replace with L model exhaust system got instant gain)

 

My R model top at 225km with dyno jet, stage 1 and 2 bro exhaust endcan (basically stage 1) as tail by blackbird

 

Fork spring wise not much diff cos over the years had already been replaced or O/H already

Edited May 28, 2013 by kawarides