2 pt/3pt Crash Bar, Engine Guard, Sliders, etc...

[benltk]

xjrredbull: I'm currently having 2sideboxes. They protect my bike well when it drops, but now that I've custom-designed and re-sprayed my sideboxes, I'm tempted to get some protection for them too. Thus the thought of small rear crashbar, like those in driving centres.

 

Hi sky_vinz,

Care to show how yr side box look like?

[sky_vinz]

benltk: Basically they're just Givi E21 sideboxes. Try Google's image search for 'Givi E21'. =)

[Father John]

I believe in Seng Kwang's crash bars. Crash proven. I crashed, they only kanna scrapped a bit, went back to Seng Kwang to patch back cost $70. Totally Worth it. If not, I'll be payinng so much for all the parts that need to be changed.

[sky_vinz]

Father John: From my understanding, Seng Kwang seems to produce more of the small crash bars for CB400. I met up with a friend just now and took a look, but received a bad comment about it. That is after installing, your cornering ability will be affected. My friend's left crash bar was scratching the roads when he cornered few days back. So I'm wondering if there is another model from them which will allow better cornering angle..

[Triple X]

All CB400 riders take note

 

If you install crash bar for your bike, please don't use the 3 point type cos its secured to your engine mounting. Imagine if you drop your bike, when the impact is strong enough, the engine mounting will crack. Ever saw it happen before. Another thing is the engine is mounted using a torque wrench and is factory fitted. If you're to unscrew it to fix the 3 point crash bar, you won;t know how much torque to use. I was using the 3 point crash bar for my Spec 1 and the bike vibration became stronger as time pass. To my dismay, i checked the engine mounting and found them to be quite loose.

 

Best crash bar to use is the 2 point or the slider type. But slider type you must know where to mount. Do not mount on the engine, it will be the same as using a 3 point crash bar.

 

If you take a good look at your bike, there are 2 screws at the frame just under the radiator. The screws are meant for the crash bar and it is linked to a support beam. Have you ever heard of Honda original 3 pt crash bar? So far I know there is original 2 pt crash bar only.

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Just a note to all riders of CB400.

 

RIDE SAFE.

[biting_point]

i think it's still up to individual preference.. and also if in event of accident, how does your crash bar help you.. i believe many had tried and tested all different type of crashbars/sliders.. they are jut there to protect or lets just say "minimise" engine damage..

 

i believe a crashbar is something similar to helmet..

 

true enough said, SK crashbars are the best (expensive too).. but they dun offer good ground clearance, just because they are meant to protect.. see how many TPs, Cisco, etc using their engine and panniers crashbars..

 

for 3 pt ones, they are some sort of "2 in 1" as the third point acts like a engine stabliser.. but not sure if it's useful or not.. some claims it causes more vibration(in my case, when i got it removed, my bike had less vibrations)

 

for 2 pt ones, design is simple .. but the amount of metal protruding to provide the protecton may seems too little.. if low-sided, bike may skid for a distance before it stopped.. is that enough then? what happen if bike had hard slam on the side.. will the 2pt one give way and cave onto your engine casing??

 

as for sliders, the material it's made from is supposed to be friction-free.. meaning it can restand grinding/sliding.. so same qns here, will the slider finish before the bike stop? is the screw able to restand the impact?

 

i guess be it 3pt, 2pt, slider, SKMIC ones.. they are "innovated" to protect and "minimise" damage to the engine.. how can they be 100% protective?

 

how much would one pay to get 100% protection to its engine??

 

 

 

 

 

these crashbars are sold without instructions.. i guess if they are, they most probably will have small prints stating:

 

Examples of problems not covered by this warranty include, but are not limited to:

 

1. Impact damage from a crash, in which the product was either cosmetically or structurally damaged, rendering the product unusable for future use. Such damage is expected in an impact.

 

2. Damage or wear of the product as the result of normal use and/or abuse

[Burnt]

i think it's still up to individual preference.. and also if in event of accident, how does your crash bar help you.. i believe many had tried and tested all different type of crashbars/sliders.. they are jut there to protect or lets just say "minimise" engine damage..

 

i believe a crashbar is something similar to helmet..

 

true enough said, SK crashbars are the best (expensive too).. but they dun offer good ground clearance, just because they are meant to protect.. see how many TPs, Cisco, etc using their engine and panniers crashbars..

 

for 3 pt ones, they are some sort of "2 in 1" as the third point acts like a engine stabliser.. but not sure if it's useful or not.. some claims it causes more vibration(in my case, when i got it removed, my bike had less vibrations)

 

for 2 pt ones, design is simple .. but the amount of metal protruding to provide the protecton may seems too little.. if low-sided, bike may skid for a distance before it stopped.. is that enough then? what happen if bike had hard slam on the side.. will the 2pt one give way and cave onto your engine casing??

 

as for sliders, the material it's made from is supposed to be friction-free.. meaning it can restand grinding/sliding.. so same qns here, will the slider finish before the bike stop? is the screw able to restand the impact?

 

i guess be it 3pt, 2pt, slider, SKMIC ones.. they are "innovated" to protect and "minimise" damage to the engine.. how can they be 100% protective?

 

how much would one pay to get 100% protection to its engine??

 

 

 

 

 

these crashbars are sold without instructions.. i guess if they are, they most probably will have small prints stating:

 

Examples of problems not covered by this warranty include, but are not limited to:

 

1. Impact damage from a crash, in which the product was either cosmetically or structurally damaged, rendering the product unusable for future use. Such damage is expected in an impact.

 

2. Damage or wear of the product as the result of normal use and/or abuse

 

WELL SAID !! Totally agreed